The Joker (Dark Knight Version)

Recommended Videos

shwnbob

New member
May 16, 2009
1,119
0
0
Hey all! So I've been watching the Dark Knight almost non-stop and I had a thought; If a guy like the Joker existed would anybody be able to stop him? Now obviously batman is out of the question because he's only in the movie so do you think Joker can be stopped if he really existed?
 

Sewblon

New member
Nov 5, 2008
3,107
0
0
In that movie he was just lucky. How did he know that Batman would decide to save Rachel and not Harvey Dent? How did he know he and his crew would end up at the same police station as that guy who was going to sell out the mafia? And how did he know that Harvey Dent wouldn't shoot him? Harvey literally made that decision based on a coin flip!
 

Kagim

New member
Aug 26, 2009
1,200
0
0
It depends. The joker exists only as a polarity to batman. That's the whole point of him. The joker type requires a batman type or else there motivation is nill. I mean the reason why the joker exists is to primarily test batman. To push him. The joker knows Civilians, officers, politicians can be corrupted but batman is his prize.

In other words if a joker like person existed they would need a nemesis to fight. If no Nemesis appeared then the joker type would disappear after realizing there is nothing left to burn.

I think there is a comic where everyone thinks batman died, and while he is gone the joker becomes a normal citizen again.

There is also an episode of The Batman where batman and Robins Identities are going to be revealed so the Joker gasses the two people who are going to reveal there identity to stop them from ruining his game.

In short, the only reason why the joker can not be stopped is BECAUSE the existence of a Batman. If a joker were to emerge and no Batman arrived to thwart him then he would self defeat.
 

captainwillies

New member
Feb 17, 2008
992
0
0
shwnbob said:
Hey all! So I've been watching the Dark Knight almost non-stop and I had a thought; If a guy like the Joker existed would anybody be able to stop him? Now obviously batman is out of the question because he's only in the movie so do you think Joker can be stopped if he really existed?
yes easy pic up a gun shoot him in the face
 

RathWolf

New member
Apr 14, 2009
326
0
0
Plus he has to contend with real life physics. Let me tell you, if you back up a school bus into a bank wall, even at top speed, it's not just going to smash through.
 

Sewblon

New member
Nov 5, 2008
3,107
0
0
Kagim said:
It depends. The joker exists only as a polarity to batman. That's the whole point of him. The joker type requires a batman type or else there motivation is nill. I mean the reason why the joker exists is to primarily test batman. To push him. The joker knows Civilians, officers, politicians can be corrupted but batman is his prize.

In other words if a joker like person existed they would need a nemesis to fight. If no Nemesis appeared then the joker type would disappear after realizing there is nothing left to burn.

I think there is a comic where everyone thinks batman died, and while he is gone the joker becomes a normal citizen again.

There is also an episode of The Batman where batman and Robins Identities are going to be revealed so the Joker gasses the two people who are going to reveal there identity to stop them from ruining his game.

In short, the only reason why the joker can not be stopped is BECAUSE the existence of a Batman. If a joker were to emerge and no Batman arrived to thwart him then he would self defeat.
At the beginning of The Dark Night he committed a robbery that wasn't really related to Batman. At least in that continuity he was presumably committing crimes to survive before he either new about Batman or had any designs on him.
 

DefunctTheory

Not So Defunct Now
Mar 30, 2010
6,438
0
0
Sewblon said:
Kagim said:
It depends. The joker exists only as a polarity to batman. That's the whole point of him. The joker type requires a batman type or else there motivation is nill. I mean the reason why the joker exists is to primarily test batman. To push him. The joker knows Civilians, officers, politicians can be corrupted but batman is his prize.

In other words if a joker like person existed they would need a nemesis to fight. If no Nemesis appeared then the joker type would disappear after realizing there is nothing left to burn.

I think there is a comic where everyone thinks batman died, and while he is gone the joker becomes a normal citizen again.

There is also an episode of The Batman where batman and Robins Identities are going to be revealed so the Joker gasses the two people who are going to reveal there identity to stop them from ruining his game.

In short, the only reason why the joker can not be stopped is BECAUSE the existence of a Batman. If a joker were to emerge and no Batman arrived to thwart him then he would self defeat.
At the beginning of The Dark Night he committed a robbery that wasn't really related to Batman. At least in that continuity he was presumably committing crimes to survive before he either new about Batman or had any designs on him.
No, everything was planned to get the Batman. The first heist was to get the mafias attention, and to set the stage.

If you watch the Dark Knight and pay attention, you'll see that Joker, the 'man without a plan,' actually has a pretty tight plan.
 

Kelbear

New member
Aug 31, 2007
344
0
0
Joker would not last long in reality either, because he loses his superpowers.

Yes, Joker has superpowers, just like Batman and Ironman. They have the power of convenience. Things line up juuuuuust-right so that things work out perfectly. Like Batman having studied an ancient lost language juuuuuust in case he needs archaelogy to fight crime. Or Ironman making an anti-spiderman device in his spare time. Joker has the convenience of having all the guards looking the other way everytime he needs them too, and nobody with a gun in the room.

Joker would accomplish 1 high-profile crime, then the authorities would be all over him. It's not like he's not insanely rich with a a huge network of support like Osama. Joker would be toast pretty damn fast.
 

DividedUnity

New member
Oct 19, 2009
1,849
0
0
God I hated the joker in that film. He ruined the film for me.

Anyway you could just shoot him. Batman never did that because hes too worried about karma.
 

Kagim

New member
Aug 26, 2009
1,200
0
0
Sewblon said:
Kagim said:
It depends. The joker exists only as a polarity to batman. That's the whole point of him. The joker type requires a batman type or else there motivation is nill. I mean the reason why the joker exists is to primarily test batman. To push him. The joker knows Civilians, officers, politicians can be corrupted but batman is his prize.

In other words if a joker like person existed they would need a nemesis to fight. If no Nemesis appeared then the joker type would disappear after realizing there is nothing left to burn.

I think there is a comic where everyone thinks batman died, and while he is gone the joker becomes a normal citizen again.

There is also an episode of The Batman where batman and Robins Identities are going to be revealed so the Joker gasses the two people who are going to reveal there identity to stop them from ruining his game.

In short, the only reason why the joker can not be stopped is BECAUSE the existence of a Batman. If a joker were to emerge and no Batman arrived to thwart him then he would self defeat.
At the beginning of The Dark Night he committed a robbery that wasn't really related to Batman. At least in that continuity he was presumably committing crimes to survive before he either new about Batman or had any designs on him.
It has EVERYTHING to do with batman. he needed to piss off the mobsters to get some attention from batman and draw him out. It was all a plan to fuck with batman.
 

clipse15

New member
May 18, 2009
534
0
0
DividedUnity said:
God I hated the joker in that film. He ruined the film for me.

Anyway you could just shoot him. Batman never did that because hes too worried about karma.
Mind if I ask why you hated the joker in The Dark Knight?
 

DividedUnity

New member
Oct 19, 2009
1,849
0
0
clipse15 said:
DividedUnity said:
God I hated the joker in that film. He ruined the film for me.

Anyway you could just shoot him. Batman never did that because hes too worried about karma.
Mind if I ask why you hated the joker in The Dark Knight?
The way he spoke like he was sucking on sponge. The way they made such a big deal of those scars on his face which are really just stupid looking regardless of the many stories he made up about them. When he was carrying out his evil plans as well he didnt seem as psychotic as i thought he should be. I also dont think that the Joker would ever really admit that batman was truly incorruptable as his continued efforts to corrupt him are kind of his thing.

The joker in arkham asylum is an example of how I think he should have been.
 

clipse15

New member
May 18, 2009
534
0
0
DividedUnity said:
clipse15 said:
DividedUnity said:
God I hated the joker in that film. He ruined the film for me.

Anyway you could just shoot him. Batman never did that because hes too worried about karma.
Mind if I ask why you hated the joker in The Dark Knight?
The way he spoke like he was sucking on sponge. The way they made such a big deal of those scars on his face which are really just stupid looking regardless of the many stories he made up about them. When he was carrying out his evil plans as well he didnt seem as psychotic as i thought he should be. I also dont think that the Joker would ever really admit that batman was truly incorruptable as his continued efforts to corrupt him are kind of his thing.

The joker in arkham asylum is an example of how I think he should have been.
Are you talking about the Joker in the arkum asylum graphic novel or the arkum asylum game? because the joker in the arkum asylum game doesn't seem psychoatic at all, everything with him is way more calculated then the joker in the film (which i think has been the best performance of any joker)
 

DividedUnity

New member
Oct 19, 2009
1,849
0
0
clipse15 said:
DividedUnity said:
clipse15 said:
DividedUnity said:
God I hated the joker in that film. He ruined the film for me.

Anyway you could just shoot him. Batman never did that because hes too worried about karma.
Mind if I ask why you hated the joker in The Dark Knight?
The way he spoke like he was sucking on sponge. The way they made such a big deal of those scars on his face which are really just stupid looking regardless of the many stories he made up about them. When he was carrying out his evil plans as well he didnt seem as psychotic as i thought he should be. I also dont think that the Joker would ever really admit that batman was truly incorruptable as his continued efforts to corrupt him are kind of his thing.

The joker in arkham asylum is an example of how I think he should have been.
Are you talking about the Joker in the arkum asylum graphic novel or the arkum asylum game? because the joker in the arkum asylum game doesn't seem psychoatic at all, everything with him is way more calculated then the joker in the film (which i think has been the best performance of any joker)
The game(dont even say it). I feel that the joker is extremely psychotic in the game. Although its alot more calculated as you say you have to admit some of the things he does to get at the batman are pretty crazy. Titan virus grunts and stuff like that not to mention injecting himself with it.
 

clipse15

New member
May 18, 2009
534
0
0
DividedUnity said:
clipse15 said:
DividedUnity said:
clipse15 said:
DividedUnity said:
God I hated the joker in that film. He ruined the film for me.

Anyway you could just shoot him. Batman never did that because hes too worried about karma.
Mind if I ask why you hated the joker in The Dark Knight?
The way he spoke like he was sucking on sponge. The way they made such a big deal of those scars on his face which are really just stupid looking regardless of the many stories he made up about them. When he was carrying out his evil plans as well he didnt seem as psychotic as i thought he should be. I also dont think that the Joker would ever really admit that batman was truly incorruptable as his continued efforts to corrupt him are kind of his thing.

The joker in arkham asylum is an example of how I think he should have been.
Are you talking about the Joker in the arkum asylum graphic novel or the arkum asylum game? because the joker in the arkum asylum game doesn't seem psychoatic at all, everything with him is way more calculated then the joker in the film (which i think has been the best performance of any joker)
The game(dont even say it). I feel that the joker is extremely psychotic in the game. Although its alot more calculated as you say you have to admit some of the things he does to get at the batman are pretty crazy. Titan virus grunts and stuff like that not to mention injecting himself with it.
Ya but none of that is really "psychoatic" I don;t know if you combine all the comics of the joker heath ledger's performance is the one who got him the closest to how the joker should be.
 

Darth Caelum

New member
Jan 21, 2010
1,748
0
0
Well...like everyone else, depends. If the Joker decided to take down the Philippines[sub]or the Capital City in any case[/sub] He'd own the City by Nightfall. Or at MOST 24 hours.
His Philosophy of Humans are Bastards fit quite nicely over here. He could Manipulate everyone into killing each other over every little thing. You name it. Religious Intolerance, Check. Poverty vs. The Rich, Check. Politicians backstabbing each other, Check. He'd have a Vacation here.