The KKK took my trooper away...

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ace_of_something

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This is the link
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10574680
And another; http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29431231/

The abridged version is this. A state trooper, that?s a law enforcement officer who usually just deals with traffic laws, highways, and things of that ilk, joined the Klu Klux Klan. For this activity the 18 Year Veteran was fired.

For those who don?t know, as I?m not sure how well the KKK is known outside the USA. The Klan is a white supremacy group that advocates the removal of all non White Protestant Christians from the United States. They have a long (over 130 years) legacy of violence particularly against blacks. (But they hate Jews, Catholics, Hispanics, pretty much everyone)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

The cause of him joining the KKK?
[blockquote] An internal investigation found that he joined the party in 2004 and posted four messages to an online discussion group for party members. Henderson said he joined as a way to vent his frustrations over his wife leaving him for a Hispanic man. He resigned his membership in 2006.[/blockquote]
This is also the extent of his activities 2 years with 4 internet posts; nothing very major.

I?m not sure how I feel about this; On the one hand yes anyone with a badge should not be connected to any sort of violence group. As stated?

[blockquote] "We hold that Nebraska public policy precludes an individual from being reinstated to serve as a sworn officer in a law enforcement agency if that individual's service would severely undermine reasonable public perception that the agency is uniformly committed to the equal enforcement of the law and that each citizen of Nebraska can depend on law enforcement officers to enforce the law without regard to race," the majority opinion said.[/blockquote]
People holding authority and public power should not be part of any other group that seeks to subvert the government. Yes


But at the same time; the first amendment is tantamount and as a nation part of our most sacred document the bill of rights. Freedom of speech. There is no indication that he acted on these thoughts and this time and while on duty did anything less than be a professional.

[blockquote]"In my view, this apparent subordination of individual constitutional rights to the 'greater good' poses a far greater risk of harm to the public policy of this state than reinstating one misguided trooper and reassigning him to some mundane position well behind the front lines of law enforcement," (Dissenting Judge Kenneth) Stephan wrote.[/blockquote]

Speech must be protected even unpopular speech. Yes.

So fellow escapists, thoughts? Keep in mind all he did was join and make internet posts and allegedly (which is in different articles) go to one rally in another state. He engaged in no criminal activity in his time in the Klan.

edit: Is this not a 'slippery slope'? Every supreme court case sets precedent. If we say one form of speech is not allowed what will be next?
I'm not saying you can condone what he's saying; but his right to say it.

EDIT RIGHT UP IN HERE: ON the TV they pointed out that he was eligible for retirement. Would forced retirement be a viable punishment (rather then taking his pension)
 

Inverse Skies

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I'm honestly not surprised the police force fired him. They have to be seen to not be supporting a group which preaches the idea of white supremacy, they had to save face over the incident. Whether or not he engaged in criminal activity is besides the point here when you think of what the KKK stands for and how the police force would be expected to respond to such a situation.
 

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Nope don't care about his views or opinions its good they fired him that type of attitude can not possibly be allowed to flourish anywhere. It's the goddamn 21st century we have no need for people like this.
 

EnzoHonda

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Police services, here in Canada anyway, take things like judgment and moral character very seriously when hiring officers (and they also keep the definitions very loose as to respond to different situations). I'm not sure what the rules are when firing someone, but I personally feel the rules should be the same.

Joined the KKK? Bad judgment, questionable moral character, inappropriate for police work.
 

Ultrajoe

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There was reason to suspect he would not carry out his job correctly or justly.

Hence, he was fired. He wasn't fired because he was in the Klan, he was fired because of what that entails.
 

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If that man ever arrested a non-caucasian, no matter what the crime, he would always be discredited in a court case because of his involvement with the KKK. It's also a big fat target for a lawsuit, and he could never be fully trusted. So it's not surprising to me that he'd be fired, especially from the police of all things.
 

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Yes. That is true he "committed no crimes during his time in Klan", BUT! (And a HUGE BUT!)
if you are responsible to be a "role model" (as any officer is), along with you are supposed to be OBJECTIVE during situations that bring you into contact with many types of people, you cannot be a racial prick..

Just my 2 cents, but this guy deserved to be fired, only cause he couldn't deal with losing his wife to a hispanic guy. Would he have joined the Klan if it was a white guy? No. He's just looking to make every excuse for why she left him, and the fact he is not white makes a great scape goat for him...
 

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Regardless of the fact that he didn't actually commit any crime, he joined the KKK. He might as well have walked around with I megaphone yelling "I Hate blacks, hispanics, Jews, etc!". If you join a group whose sole purpose is to purge the population of everyone who isn't white, You probably aren't the best person to be enforcing laws.
 

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Joining the KKK over his wife leaving him for a Hispanic man? Sounds kind of extreme for the only cause. I'll bet there was a history of racism in his family/town, and it rubbed off on him.
 

Ace Jackson

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Freedom of speech isn't the issue, it's that someone in authority was associated with a known racist group, so there would be no way that they would know if he was upholding the law in a fair and unbiased way, free of any kind of racial profiling or junk like that. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, but in this case, ignorance WAS the law.
 

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I'm glad. I mean, who cares for what reason or what length of time he was in the klan. Just like those commies in the 30's who went to a socialist rally to see what they were about. They got what they deserved in the 50's. You just cant trust them.

*facepalm*

Seriously? If the dude passes the civil service tests, and has no disqualifying medical conditions or past crimes, they have no right firing him. It's like when they gave shit to all those people during the Red Scare who attended (and signed in) a single communist rally, and had no ties to the party since. Yeah, the KKK is a group the government would rather not have their workers be tied to, but this guy isn't tied to them. He left them 3 years ago. It's shameful. I always thought America could be a country where you could live your life without having to carry the stigma of past mistakes. Apparently not.
 

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Yes, the man has the right to free speech, and no one can stop him from believing what he wants. He also has the right to be judged by his peers however they see fit. Freedom of speech has responsibility as well, and I'm sick of people who want to get a free pass for there own stupidity by pointing to the first amendment and expecting everyone else roll roll over for them. You wanna be a bigot, then fine, we won't stop you, but you have to take responsibility for your beliefs.

Really, what are the police going to do here? This story becomes known, and what happens every time he arrests or otherwise deals with a non White Anglo Saxon Protestent? Someone whose not white could murder his wife in broad daylight, this guy arrests the murderer, and suddenly, everyone has every reason to think that there's some foul play on the cops part. This guy has 0 credibility, and his presence on the force is a liability to the safety of the community at large.
 

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He joined the kkk because his wife left him for a hispanic man... I don't know, that sounds like a bullshit excuse to me.


As for the whole him being fired thing, Im happy he got fired.
Not so much for the him being (most likely) racist but because it might make his life a bit more miserable.
Also, racism on the police force should not be tolerated. It gives cops an even worse reputation than they already have and makes it harder for them to put criminals away.

Also, can anyone point out to me why a person would be (extremely) racist other than ignorance?
 

Ultrajoe

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SilentHunter7 said:
Seriously? If the dude passes the civil service tests, and has no disqualifying medical conditions or past crimes, they have no right firing him. It's like when they gave shit to all those people during the Red Scare who attended (and signed in) a single communist rally, and had no ties to the party since. Yeah, the KKK is a group the government would rather not have their workers be tied to, but this guy isn't tied to them. He left them 3 years ago. It's shameful. I always thought America could be a country where you could live your life without having to carry the stigma of past mistakes. Apparently not.
His affiliation was provoked by anger at a hispanic, so we can assume he didn't go 'to find out'.

It muddies his arrests, allows for criminals to revoke charges because 'the racists just has it in for me' and brings negative stigma on the force. Since when should they be forced to suffer for someone's stupid mistakes? He has proven he is unsuitable, and made himself unsuitable. That's why he was fired.

You can live without the stigma of your past, but instead of doing that he decided to brood on his wife leaving him and join a racist cult. His disposition is not one the police want, and as such he was justly fired.
 

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Hell, I'd be worried if a police officer joined PETA, so you can imagine how much they'd be freaking out if they discovered he joined the Klan.

And I think they'd have the right to fire him. He breached his agreement of serving the law by joining a group that completely ignores the Magna Carta.
 

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Ace Jackson said:
Freedom of speech isn't the issue, it's that someone in authority was associated with a known racist group, so there would be no way that they would know if he was upholding the law in a fair and unbiased way, free of any kind of racial profiling or junk like that.
I agree. A police officer should perform his duties impartially, and associating with a group known for its bias against minority groups would call his impartiality into question. (Especially in court, if he ever had to testify in front of a jury! And that goes double if the defendant actually does belong to a minority group.)

This dismissal wasn't an issue of freedom of speech, this was the dismissal of an officer unable to perform his duties.

-- Steve