The legalization of murder.

[AlphaMandate]

This started as an... interesting conversation with a friend, and the subject came up on if we could provide a convincing argument on why murder should be legalized. We came up with nothing, save for one revolving around the concept of "survival of the fittest." So i ask you, escapist, can you argue in the favor of murder?
(Also,I'm not new here, my old account.. ceased working i suppose?)

 

[Hal10k]

"Murder" is "red rum" backwards. Red rum is a type of alcohol. Alcohol is legal to anyone over the age of 18 in most of the world, except for America, where you have to be 21. Ergo, murder should logically be legal for anybody under the age of 18 for balance's sake.

Expect to see the mafia start a recruitment campaign starring Spongebob Squarepants.

 

[ChaoticKraus]

I guess you could with some kind of honour-based society where duels/gladitorial combat would be used to settle disputes. You could also spin some sort of policy where murder would be an acceptable tool for revenge if somebody hurt you, your property or someone you love.

And of course there's the kind of darwinist, ayn-randish survival theories that you mention.

 

[tendaji]

I think of "Survival of the Fittest" to be more around Survival from predators/surroundings, not survival from each other. Because what is there to gain in genetic diversity when the only chance of someone surviving is if they are stronger or faster than their opponent. It would discourage diversity in the end and would cause a reduction of intelligence, and more importance over strength.

 

[Lectori Salutem]

I guess you could with some kind of honour-based society where duels/gladitorial combat would be used to settle disputes.

Hurray for contract-bounded gentleman duels.

...Nah, I got nothing.

 

[AlphaMandate]

"Murder" is "red rum" backwards. Red rum is a type of alcohol. Alcohol is legal to anyone over the age of 18 in most of the world, except for America, where you have to be 21. Ergo, murder should logically be legal for anybody under the age of 18 for balance's sake.

Expect to see the mafia start a recruitment campaign starring Spongebob Squarepants.

Wait. If the murder age is 21 in 'merica and 18 in the rest of the most of the world, what would happen if someone legally(?) murdered someone in America, when they were now under the limit?

 

[Hero in a half shell]

Murder is legal, it's called the death penalty!

Also, this guy has legal authority to murder:

Spoiler

Get it? It's the instantly recognisable face of spy thrillers with a license to kill: James Bond!

(seriously. This is the first image Google imagesearch brought up for "James Bond". Is it just me or has imagesearch gone down the pan recently. I can never find relevant images.)

 

[Hal10k]

"Murder" is "red rum" backwards. Red rum is a type of alcohol. Alcohol is legal to anyone over the age of 18 in most of the world, except for America, where you have to be 21. Ergo, murder should logically be legal for anybody under the age of 18 for balance's sake.

Expect to see the mafia start a recruitment campaign starring Spongebob Squarepants.

Wait. If the murder age is 21 in 'merica and 18 in the rest of the most of the world, what would happen if someone legally(?) murdered someone in America, when they were now under the limit?

Fair's fair. America gets to kill people for three years longer. Less drinking = more killing. Take note, Budweiser advertising division.

 

[Esotera]

If a person challenges another person to a duel to the death, then those two persons should be allowed to fight with each other until one of them is dead, with no reprecussions. There should be safeguards here so that no-one is coerced, but this is the only convincing argument I can think of for legalisation of murder. If two people genuinely do want to kill each other enough that it's ruining their life, why not let them settle it?

 

[backinthepresentfuture]

1. to make sure the human race stays strong. 2. to cull the idiots. 3. to lower the already audacious number of lives on this putrid planet. 4. because people deserve it. 5. because it would be interesting to see who can survive the longest. 6. because war is murder yet no politicians are arrested for waging it. 7. it'd fuck the new world order up!

 

[chadachada123]

"Murder"? No. However, if someone wants to die, they should be allowed to. If this someone wants someone else to do the deed, with proper authorization and blah blah blah, the other person shouldn't get in trouble for it.

I feel similarly about duels. As long as random people aren't being put in danger, if two people want to fight to the death, I say let them.

 

[Lionsfan]

Am I going to be the only person to say No to this?...

 

[RagTagBand]

Murder, by definition, is the unlawful killing of another (premeditation being also part of the definition), it has "Unlawful" in the definition so it's not possible to make Murder lawful.

SEMANTICS aside, however, I don't think you'll find a very convincing argument in favor of taking someones life in the same context that a murder would take place (ie, without their consent, without it being necessary in self-defense). In fact, i'm going to go out on a limb and say there isn't one.

Also, just because it's a pet-peeve, "Survival of the Fittest" is a phrase coined by a fairly nihilistic Economist who misunderstood Darwin's theory of Evolution. It is, to be blunt, a demonstrably incorrect phrase.

 

[Keoul]

All I can think of is a license to kill

Responsible individuals (clean record, history with firarms etc etc) can commit murder under several circumstances such as
-self-defence
-JUUUSSTTIIICCCEEEE (sees a robbery, permission to kill)
-Mercy killing

They still get investigated and such but unless they can proof it was of malicious intent and outside the rules then the guy/gal gets off scott free

 

[FalloutJack]

There is such a thing called 'Justifiable Homicide'. The trouble is that trying to actually justify it is extremely hard. However, it is a known fact that "He needed killin'." is a valid defense in some states. On the personal side of things, so long as the case is one where murder is unavoidable or necessary...where alternatives seem worse and talk is cheap...yeah.

Look, some people just need to die, okay? There comes a time in a man's life where he might have said or done things so bad and wrong (Badong!) without being properly dealt with that to allow his continued existence would be a crime against nature. Many times, you hear the argument that you wouldn't kill a vicious dictator in his childhood (or maybe you would), but most people won't say no to shooting a dictator when he's an adult.

There are times, places, reasons...for which murder is probably acceptable, where is would even get you hero status in the right light. Finding them and applying them is the hard part.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Murder is legal, it's called the death penalty!

Also, this guy has legal authority to murder:

Spoiler

Get it? It's the instantly recognisable face of spy thrillers with a license to kill: James Bond!

(seriously. This is the first image Google imagesearch brought up for "James Bond". Is it just me or has imagesearch gone down the pan recently. I can never find relevant images.)

That's Peter Sellers, he was James Bond in the 1967 version of Casino Royale.

 

[Valanthe]

Yeah... as much as I may fantasize, write terrible fiction about, and partake in a hobby based on living in a world without law. I don't have any real desire to put all that into practice. I am rather happy being a stereotypical apathetic internet dweller and I want my life to stay that way. Because if our society devolved to a true survival of the fittest regime, even -I'm- not confident of my odds of survival.

 

[larryparker]

This started as an... interesting conversation with a friend, and the subject came up on if we could provide a convincing argument on why murder should be legalized. We came up with nothing, save for one revolving around the concept of "survival of the fittest." So i ask you, escapist, can you argue in the favor of murder?
(Also,I'm not new here, my old account.. ceased working i suppose?)

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