The Legend of the Seeker

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Rasputin1

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kingcom said:
Rasputain1 said:
I'm fairly sure he's the guy who confronts the person alive after the so called "quad" attacks Kahlan. I could be wrong though.
That was chase? I seem to remember they even called that guy something different and until they said his name i thought he was chase, except with his crossbow absent.
As I said, I could be wrong.
 

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Imper1um said:
Also, if you don't like it, why are you giving it ratings (by watching it)?
not to sound like a prick, but just by watching a show you aren't giving it ratings. You have to have the company, that monitors sample audience houses, install a box to your tv. That box then monitors your watching habits and then sends it to the parent company's computer. Their computers then correlate it into data that they sell to the individual tv stations so that they know their ratings.
 

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Mornelithe said:
bloodychimp said:
Darius Brogan said:
I've never even seen LoTS, I've only read a couple of the plot synopsis, but I HAVE read the Sword of Truth series... the whole thing... first book included (obviously) and I have never in my entire life found an adaptation that SUCKED SO MUCH. Seriously speaking, it is a giant pile of random shit with the same character names to mask the fact that it is entirely different.
Denee is DEAD for one, you never meet her, quads are made up of only FOUR people, not four and a leader, just four, The Book is gone, ashes, dust, memories in Richards head, Richards hometown is NOT Brennidon, the is no "magic map maker" that is hired to track him, ect, ect, ect...
Sorry, you've invalidated your opinion. The splash screen says "Based off Terry Goodkind's The Sword of Truth" not "A faithful recreation of Terry Goodkind's The Sword of Truth".

I've never read the books (they look good, but I don't really have a lot of time to read a long series like that), but the TV show is a lot of fun. The stories are well written, and its a good thing they aren't taken from the book because things that are fun to read and things that are fun to watch are completely different. People need to settle down over this whole "they made my favorite book into a movie/tv show/video game, and it's not how I imagined it and I'm the fucking center of the universe so no one else should enjoy it" shit.

/rant
This coming from someone who hasn't even read the books, really means very little. You've no idea what you're missing. So you really have no place to speak.

However, to answer your 'rant'

Yeah you're right, me and the other 10 million people who bought the books, how selfish of us to want to see the series done some justice.
So my enjoyment of a TV series hinges on reading a series of, by your own account, mostly unrelated books? I'm TERRIBLY sorry I cant fit around 10,000 pages of reading into my busy schedule so I can learn to hate a television series I enjoy.

And yes, you have the right to want an adaptation of the books, just as a fan of any media has a right to want that media to expand (for example, I'd love to see the Halo movie become a reality), but that doesn't mean the series based off the books is a heinous pile of crap that no one should enjoy, just because it wasn't what you personally were expecting.
 

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Usually fans will allways cry if a movie or tv-show aint 100% identical to the parent material. If you take the source as a guideline instead of a abselute path you can make it more interesting for people that know and read the books or new fans(otherwise it would just be a rerun.. whit pictures).
There's also what is possible/Plausible to make...

Chase is in a few episodes, most of the fist ones actually.
 

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Rasputain1 said:
The Legend of the Seeker is a tv series based off The Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind.

Now, recently I've had the misfortune of actually watching this tv show. To anyone who has seen the show, and read the book, the show is a complete disaster. It barely follows the original story. The only thing they got right is the characters names.

So what I was wondering, is peoples opinion on this? Or if you've had a similiar book ruined by some crappy tv show?
Speaking as someone who read at least some of the books (and wants to pimp-slap Terry Goodkind with a passion), I preferred the television show. It was pure high-fantasy, rather than books pretending to be something else and failing. Even ignoring that Goodkind is a douchebag of the highest order (mr. "I don't write fantasy", despite having a series about magical swords, wizards, prophecies, and all of those other nifty tropes of "fantasy" stories), the books were cliched and overwrought, and Richard (at best a somewhat heroic persona) eventually becomes a complete repudiation of the hero form.

If I wanted to be charitable, I could say that Goodkind was being thoughtful and introspective about turning a hero into a Knight Templar who would kill innocents for being pacifist and refusing to rise up against the "villain", but I kind of doubt it. From the Rand-length speeches Richard gives about it, I'm betting Goodkind really does believe that tripe.

At best, the books are a fun romp in a fantasy setting. But those moments are hamstrung by an author with a disdain for his own bread and butter, and who at least cribbed (and more likely stole outright) half the stuff out of The Fountainhead. I would not have been surprised if the last book began "Who Is Richard Rahl"?

The television show, at least, doesn't have illusions about what it is. It used the original books as a jumping off point to take the series in a less melodramatic "Ayn Rand mixed with George Bush" direction.
 

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Mornelithe said:
bloodychimp said:
So my enjoyment of a TV series hinges on reading a series of, by your own account, mostly unrelated books? I'm TERRIBLY sorry I cant fit around 10,000 pages of reading into my busy schedule so I can learn to hate a television series I enjoy.

And yes, you have the right to want an adaptation of the books, just as a fan of any media has a right to want that media to expand (for example, I'd love to see the Halo movie become a reality), but that doesn't mean the series based off the books is a heinous pile of crap that no one should enjoy, just because it wasn't what you personally were expecting.
Your apologies are meaningless. If you can't find time to read in a day, well, I pity you. And, you deserve steaming piles of shit like the Legend of the Seeker. Part of that whole 'I want it now' problem that humans have. Can't take the time for the real thing, you get the sorry seconds.

Again, me and 10 million other people, were expecting something different. How you're singling me out of all this is quite amusing, actually. It's not like this thread is filled with people who agree with you. In fact, even the OP wasn't referring to people such as yourself. He stated, he watched the series, _liked it_ and then read the books, and HATED the series for what they changed. As I said, you have no place to speak here, simply because you don't know what you're missing. The amount that was emphatically _wrong_ with the first season, could fill pages. And no, this isn't just set design, this is actual character interaction, fucks sake even the CLIMAX to the first season was so far from the books reality it may as well have been an entirely different series. Note, that in no way, have I thrown _any_ spoilers out either. I'd love to, believe me I would, but I hold out the belief that someday you'll get off your lazy ass (yes, if you can't read a chapter a day, and make excuses for that instead of actually trying, you are, in fact lazy) read the series, and understand exactly what I'm saying.
For the record, I read the books years before the LotS even came out.
 

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When I heard many months ago that they were making a tv series from the books I got so excited, and counted down the days to the first episode airing. After watching the first episode I was fairly disappointed but I thought its only the first one lets give it a chance...
After managing to watch half of the series I still feel bitterly disappointed. The books had so much potential which just seemed wasted especially by how loosely the tv series followed the plot. Unfortunately I have given up on watching it and have reverted to re reading the original masterpiece.
 

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Rasputain1 said:
The Legend of the Seeker is a tv series based off The Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind.

Now, recently I've had the misfortune of actually watching this tv show. To anyone who has seen the show, and read the book, the show is a complete disaster. It barely follows the original story. The only thing they got right is the characters names.

So what I was wondering, is peoples opinion on this? Or if you've had a similiar book ruined by some crappy tv show?
I'm so glad I've found someone else who feels the same as me. I saw an ad on tv, wanted to read the book first, so I did and it was amazing, then watched the TV series for 2 eps and cried.

I realise they can't translate it exactly, but they've changed so many things it just doesn't feel the same. I can understand needing to change some things, but from what I've seen/heard they've changed a load of things for no reason whatsoever - character backgrounds, creatures, etc. My sister (who watched it but never read the book) told me how it ended, and it just sounds like the shittest ending ever. The books made sense, the TV series just seems like a quick cash in by someone who skimmed the first 100 pages of the book and said "I can make money of this"
 

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Mornelithe said:
bloodychimp said:
So my enjoyment of a TV series hinges on reading a series of, by your own account, mostly unrelated books? I'm TERRIBLY sorry I cant fit around 10,000 pages of reading into my busy schedule so I can learn to hate a television series I enjoy.

And yes, you have the right to want an adaptation of the books, just as a fan of any media has a right to want that media to expand (for example, I'd love to see the Halo movie become a reality), but that doesn't mean the series based off the books is a heinous pile of crap that no one should enjoy, just because it wasn't what you personally were expecting.
Your apologies are meaningless. If you can't find time to read in a day, well, I pity you. And, you deserve steaming piles of shit like the Legend of the Seeker. Part of that whole 'I want it now' problem that humans have. Can't take the time for the real thing, you get the sorry seconds.

Again, me and 10 million other people, were expecting something different. How you're singling me out of all this is quite amusing, actually. It's not like this thread is filled with people who agree with you. In fact, even the OP wasn't referring to people such as yourself. He stated, he watched the series, _liked it_ and then read the books, and HATED the series for what they changed. As I said, you have no place to speak here, simply because you don't know what you're missing. The amount that was emphatically _wrong_ with the first season, could fill pages. And no, this isn't just set design, this is actual character interaction, fucks sake even the CLIMAX to the first season was so far from the books reality it may as well have been an entirely different series. Note, that in no way, have I thrown _any_ spoilers out either. I'd love to, believe me I would, but I hold out the belief that someday you'll get off your lazy ass (yes, if you can't read a chapter a day, and make excuses for that instead of actually trying, you are, in fact lazy) read the series, and understand exactly what I'm saying.
I'm sorry but you are completely wrong in saying he has no place to speak here. So what if he doesn't know what he is missing? As long as the guy enjoys the show he has every right to say why in a thread discussing it. If you don't like the show, just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist. This is what i did with this how after reading the first book.
And as a series of books that runs into such a large number of volumes over ten or something (I'm not too sure, i've only read the first book) why should he have to spend £150 on a series of books to discuss a tv show?
I agree that when the guy gets the chance he should read the books, but the fact he hasn't in no way detracts from his ability to discuss the tv show.
If you ignore the books and take the tv show for what it is, a fun, semi serious fantasy tv show then it isn't that bad. Its entertaining at the least to many people.
 

Darius Brogan

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bloodychimp said:
Darius Brogan said:
I've never even seen LoTS, I've only read a couple of the plot synopsis, but I HAVE read the Sword of Truth series... the whole thing... first book included (obviously) and I have never in my entire life found an adaptation that SUCKED SO MUCH. Seriously speaking, it is a giant pile of random shit with the same character names to mask the fact that it is entirely different.
Denee is DEAD for one, you never meet her, quads are made up of only FOUR people, not four and a leader, just four, The Book is gone, ashes, dust, memories in Richards head, Richards hometown is NOT Brennidon, the is no "magic map maker" that is hired to track him, ect, ect, ect...
Sorry, you've invalidated your opinion. The splash screen says "Based off Terry Goodkind's The Sword of Truth" not "A faithful recreation of Terry Goodkind's The Sword of Truth".

I've never read the books (they look good, but I don't really have a lot of time to read a long series like that), but the TV show is a lot of fun. The stories are well written, and its a good thing they aren't taken from the book because things that are fun to read and things that are fun to watch are completely different. People need to settle down over this whole "they made my favorite book into a movie/tv show/video game, and it's not how I imagined it and I'm the fucking center of the universe so no one else should enjoy it" shit.

/rant
I apologize if you don't like the fact that I'm voicing an opinion on a book series I enjoyed, and I regret to inform you that I've not invalidated my opinion. A plot synopsis is exactly that a SYNOPSIS a.k.a: A summarized version of the episode in text, therefore I needn't watch to get the information I need.
I also never 'imagined' the book adaptation to be anything because honestly I never thought there would be one. I may be new to the whole Book-TV thing, but I'd like to think that "Based on" means more than take the same names and fuck the rest. If you've never read the books then that's fine, but try and refrain from berating me for thinking that changing the meaning of 'based on' from 'not quite perfect storyline for time and/or length considerations' to 'If we make the characters act epic enough no one will notice that this is nothing close to an adaptation in even its most basic of forms'
 

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I thought this was going to be good when I saw the commercials. I watched the pilot and wondered why Fox didn't pick it up for its genuine suckiness. The characters and the plot are as cohesive as childrens' glue sticks.