The line dividing discipline and abuse.

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DarklordKyo

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MarsAtlas said:
If your child doesn't understand why they're getting spanked how do you expect to instill discipline in them?

At that age a child isn't going to recognize the line between attempts at discipline through using corporal punishment as a deterrant and abuse. Looking back on it as adults they might be able to. I, as an adult, can recognize the difference between when my dad spanked me calmly over his knee after I was mean to my sister and when my dad pulled the car over on the side of the road, went into the backseat, ripped my pants down to my knees and started angrily spanking me. One was corporal punishment, the other clearly abuse. The problem is that a child can't tell the difference. Because of that using physical violence is just generally a bad, ineffective idea and runs a good chance of making your child hate you for life.

Your problem isn't your upbringing, its your worldview. You deem yourself worthless and instead of doing something about that you decide that it can only be due to one's raising. How about teaching yourself how to make something worthwhile first and then worry about how you'll teach your kids to do that? [small]Psssy, by the way, you don't accomplish that by beating them. You accomplish that by encouraging them.[/small]
Honestly, I worded the OP wrongly, made it sound like I blame my parents. Honestly, it's entirely because I suck, and I just don't want my theoretical kid to suck like me.

Besides, my dad was practically abused when he was a kid (seriously, he was beat by a power cord at least once), yet he turned out fine.
 

DarklordKyo

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manic_depressive13 said:
If you are as worthless as you claim, why do you think it's appropriate to have kids? You need to work on your own issues, or else you'll just end up projecting your own insecurities onto your children, as evidenced here.
To be perfectly honest, the whole kids thing is mostly a hopeful thing at this point in my life. In all honesty, I'm actually considering celibacy because I, somehow, ruined a relationship with my ex that lasted four years.

Yeah, I know, breakups and divorce are a thing, but four freaking years isn't exactly a short time.
 

Smooth Operator

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Dumping your problems on kids, a very common awful parent thing to do.
Look buddy they are not at fault for your failures, if you want to turn out better then I suggest you work on it, don't put that crap on other people and possibly do it with force.
 

DarklordKyo

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Smooth Operator said:
Dumping your problems on kids, a very common awful parent thing to do.
Look buddy they are not at fault for your failures, if you want to turn out better then I suggest you work on it, don't put that crap on other people and possibly do it with force.
Yeah, admittedly, I worded it in a way that makes it sound like I blame them (when, in actuality, my massive lack of any sort of worth to this world is all my own fault for being me).

On top of that, after thinking about it for a little while, this was a pointless thread. In all honesty, if I end up getting children, I'll probably be too much of a pussy to discipline them that way. I'll just hope that, unlike me, they don't end up being worthless wastes of space.