The Man with Boobs Trope

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Thaluikhain

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Depends on the context, specifically on how the other female characters are portrayed.

If you only have one heroic female character, and they are much more like the male characters than the other female characters, then it's a fair criticism.
 

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nomotog said:
erttheking said:
nomotog said:
I don't recall seeing a lot of complaints about this trope as a whole it's not bad by itself. It can some times come off as lazy. That the people writing/designing the character didn't put enough effort into the female version for them to really look female. Like how femshep uses male shep's animations and doesn't know how to sit in a skirt. Then the fact that it's never men who are made from female bases and animations more just goes to highlight the big problem.

Then on the other hand. I have mused that femshep using male shep's animations gives her a little bit of character that male shep doesn't have. She is a woman who sits like a man. She kind of goes counter to what you might expect from a woman. It gives her a little big of accidental characterization.

Now on my other other had. (My third hand.) If you went into a game with a female character expecting them to be female and found that they used the same walk animation as the guy character, you might feel cheated by that. Like your choice of gender didn't warrant the creation if a proper walk animation. You never see male characters with female walk animations because the game was to didn't want to give them their own animation.

So sum up. Kind of highlights the bigger problem, but I don't think it's the worst trope in the gender dynamics index. It's better to have men with boobs then no women at all.

Edit: Is it just me or dose the term man with boobs sound a little offensive?
I feel like I'd be ok with a female character sitting and walking like a man if all the other female characters didn't do the same. It'd feel like a character trait and stick out more if she did. Then again, you have a point in that it makes the gender select feel a bit invalid. It makes me wish more game devs took the Saints Row 2 route. There are actually several different walking and running animations in that game. You want to make a man walk in a feminine manner or a woman run in a masculine manner? Knock your socks off! I wish more games did that. Sunset overdrive seems to have that mindset going on with all the clothing being wearable by men and women, but somehow I doubt that they'd have customizable walk animations.
I always wish more games would go the saints row 2 route. I just love the customization in that game. It sex slider, not a toggle, a slider. No other game has that. Though there is something to note about the walk animations. They were only walk animations not full animation sets. The game had two sets run animations male and females, but a bug would cause you to default to the male one. (I think on loading, but I don't recall exactly what triggered it.)

Maybe sunset overdrive will have multiple movement sets. We still don't know a lot about it. They do have a thing about customization and movement, so who knows.
No matter what, I just can't get it out of my head that Playa is a hermaphrodite. How else am I supposed to interpret a sex slider? Or even better yet, I have a fan theory that "he" got so fucked up by the blast that the reconstructive surgeon decided "fuck it, he likes fashion. Let's re-work the plumbing!"
 

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Perhaps it?s the fact that femininity is still implicitly seen as being a lesser trait than masculinity, or negative if it?s not associated with sexuality, if we at least compare the number of gung-ho action girls praised for being ?badass? to the often comedic mincing boys ridiculed for acting ?gay? or ?like a sissy?.

Personally, I?d just like more variety. I?ve previously cited Izumi Curtis as a good example of balancing masculinity and femininity in a female character. But how many effeminate and/or sexually provocative (in the ?male stripper? sense of the word, not the ?Duke Nukem? sense of the word) male characters do you hear people describing as strong or badass?