Oh God. Memories flooding back. I think I am going to hurl... *runs to toilet* So bad, so very, very bad... Didn't think any game could out do KOTOR II in awful ending-ness. How wrong I was. D:ThrobbingEgo said:
The Mass Effect mod that adds an ending that isn't bad
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See, I can't do that. If I don't like something I just stop doing it. If it's been a terrible experience from the get go, even if the ending rocks its not going to turn the shit you waded through to gold. It reminds me of that old joke about the guy bashing himself in the head with a hammer because it feels so good when he stops. Personally, I just don't pick up the hammer in the first place.Owen Robertson said:
I liked the writing in ME, that's why I made it to the end. To reverse my comment above, even though the ending wasn't what Id hoped for, it wasn't enough to turn the gold that came before in to shit.
Lets try an outsider's perspective on this shall we?
I see a bunch of people trying to make up an ending to the story that they didn't write out of some kind of backwards obsession and pathetic dependence on the idea of a storybook, fairytale ending.
That being said, this is an outsider's perspective. Maybe I'm missing something.
Captcha: 'Old codger', after this post I feel like one. Get of my lawn.
I see a bunch of people trying to make up an ending to the story that they didn't write out of some kind of backwards obsession and pathetic dependence on the idea of a storybook, fairytale ending.
That being said, this is an outsider's perspective. Maybe I'm missing something.
Captcha: 'Old codger', after this post I feel like one. Get of my lawn.
A while ago I read some books called the inkheart trilogy, I read the first one and loved it, when the sequel came out I was curious because the first book had very few loose ends but it was also a good book, expanded upon the first one, and ended on a cliffhanger, so I waited for the third one. Now the third book was utter shit, but I kept reading because you get invested in these things, some people can't just decide to stop if the experience suddenly goes bad, you need to know how it ends.Jason Rayes said:
Because fan endings worked so well in fixing Highlander 2... wait, no they didn't.
The fact that people have such empty lives that they spend there time making this junk makes me sad. You could have used the time to start making your own game, but instead you make video game fanfic.
The fact that people have such empty lives that they spend there time making this junk makes me sad. You could have used the time to start making your own game, but instead you make video game fanfic.
That's different, you liked the first two, obviously the writing was good in them and the third one somehow went off the rails.Warachia said:
This was the post I was responding to though, and this guy hated the writing throughout the entire series and still managed to force himself to play all of them. To get back to Inkheart, if you had hated the first book, would you have been invested enough to finish the trilogy or would you have stopped at one and gone "Well that was shit, no need to put myself through another two"Rack said:
TheDrunkNinja said:
The thing that aggrieves me is that ME3s ending is treated as the one lowpoint of a great series, as opposed to a series that went aggressively downhill for 2 whole games. The first one had a few blunders but on the whole I thought it had a lot of potential, the ending in particular was a high point. The second was more of a mixed bag, it had some great moments in it but some really really horrible ones. I'd resolved not to play the third at all but when I heard the community explode with such force over writing when they had passed ME2 entirely without comment I had to see it for myself. ME3 was the point where the writing fell to the level of being terrible pretty much throughout.Jason Rayes said:
There's another reason for this then, I hate the Metal Gear Solid games for their writing, but I've played most of them, why? Because in this case I feel I can't accurately criticise it without having experienced it, I can't say why the writing is shit until I've sat through all the bullshit myself.Jason Rayes said:
The reason I'd play it is because they have decent gameplay, the gameplay is the only reason I'd recommend going through them.
At the same time though, I bought every MGS game for ten dollars or nothing (borrowed from a friend), the first game I played was the one where I found the writing was going to be bad, and I didn't play them one after the other, so I don't hold that against the games at all.
Heard it before, I still don't see it. I've even seen the most over-analytical, nit-pickiest arguments against Mass Effect's writing essentially shredding the series to pieces, yet none of it holds water for me when held up to the emotionally captivating moments that both 2 and 3 presented to the players.Rack said:
In short, this probably comes down to a simple difference of opinion, but I do find that most people who are overly-willing to shred a film or game for its writing generally don't hold up everything else to the standards they set for this particular intellectual property.
Which was ground up into the glue that they used to paste the EC together.Sassafrass said:
Seriously, the EC is an improvement, but it still left me with the bad taste you get after eating an overcooked, nearly-rancid steak. Sure, it was better than the four month old rotten husk of a steak they served us the first time, but there are better steak houses around that I'd rather give my money to.
I'll always commend people putting creative effort into something they love. So I like the fact that he actually made this instead of simply bitching about the ME3 ending online.
That being said this video obviously has a number of problems, and doesn't stack up to the EC or even original ending in my opinion. Not that you can expect a regular Joe to produce Bioware quality work.
You're totally right, he should get out of his mom's basement and go outside and live in the real world for once. Stead of wasting all his time with this lame nerd crap. Fucking nerd.
That being said this video obviously has a number of problems, and doesn't stack up to the EC or even original ending in my opinion. Not that you can expect a regular Joe to produce Bioware quality work.
You do realize what site you're on right? Empty lives? WTF?Twilight_guy said:
You're totally right, he should get out of his mom's basement and go outside and live in the real world for once. Stead of wasting all his time with this lame nerd crap. Fucking nerd.
While there has been some seriously nit-picky analysis of the Mass Effect series you really don't have to go that far to find issues with it. That aside though you're pretty much right. You can't engage in an emotional level with a piece if you are finding flaws with it, and you can't find flaws with a piece while you are engaged on an emotional level. That's why it's so divisive. Of course competent writers could create something both emotionally satisfying and at least part-way coherent but there are no more than a handful of those working in gaming.TheDrunkNinja said:
It's also fair to say other games have been guilty of worse writing without nearly so much comment. Mass Effect is in the spotlight because it is celebrated for its writing and it has no other redeeming qualities (apart from a surprisingly good multiplayer mode)
Ok, that makes more sense, if you liked the first and kinda liked the second, I can understand giving the third a shot. Your original post made it sound as if you didn't like any of themRack said:
Personally I liked them all, there probably were faults, but considering how weak most game stories usually are, I didn't bother looking for them. I think you are right about the backlash being due to the perceived quality of the writing, normally crappy writing would just pass without comment, but expectations of the series finale were set very high.
Well, I loved the ending just the way it was! I even love Star Boy! Star Boy shows Shepard absolving himself of his guilt, as he makes his final decision.squid5580 said:
OT: The Mass Effect ending thing thing is over, and thus I put this mod in the same category as Charlie Sheen jokes. I never would have liked it, but I like it less now.
I assume most of the complaining people really liked ME1 and believed Bioware on the choices of the games affecting the story.Jason Rayes said:
Understandably seeing those choices reduced to a numeric value and the endings themselves not really being affected in any way by them hit them the wrong way.
At least that is how it was for me and it's the reason why i never bought nor played ME3 myself.
There's a difference between being constructive and wallowing. This is distinctly wallowing. I don't give a damn what the quality of it is, I believe in progress not retreading the same ground because you didn't like how a developer made their game. Actually its similar to the reason I hate it when people use level editors to recreate world 1-1 over and over.OlasDAlmighty said:
Ok, now I have to go and find this ending on youtube just to see what all the fuss is about. Seem as I'll have no context for the rest of IP's story, it probably won't seem that bad to me.BreakfastMan said:
Also having just finished AC3 yesterday, all in ME3 is forgiven. The AC series, although I love it, has got a reputation for really terrible, bullshit cliffhanger endings, but this one took the biscuit. Imagine what would happen if you took the original, pre-EC ending for ME3, compressed it to about 1/20 of it's length, making it even more abrupt and unsatisfying, then take all control away from the player, and make them watch as the game chooses the absolute worst decision for them; and then... fin. No closure, no insight into the consequences of the terrible, logic defying choice you just made. Just 'Well done, you prevented the destruction of the world by unleashing something even worse upon it. Go away now and try and imagine what suffering you have just condemned everyone to.'
That. That is AC3's ending. It is without doubt the worst I have ever seen. The original ME3 ending did, for all it's shoddy execution and lack of good game design, did at least have some conceptual merit. This though... it's actually kind of morbidly fascinating in how it manages to do absolutely everything wrong!
That. That is AC3's ending. It is without doubt the worst I have ever seen. The original ME3 ending did, for all it's shoddy execution and lack of good game design, did at least have some conceptual merit. This though... it's actually kind of morbidly fascinating in how it manages to do absolutely everything wrong!
