I'd agree that Brave New World is on the other end of the dystopia spectrum, but I wouldn't say that Huxley missed the mark. Although it's true, I wouldn't mind vacationing there.Scobie said:I'd have to agree with 1984:It's not just that our heroes lose. It's also that it's made clear the situation is nearly hopeless and, above all, the fact that Winston's betrayal denies him even a moral victory.Debatable. Apart from the fact that it's supposed to be dystopic fiction, I don't think they have much in common. In fact, I'd say that they're at opposite ends of the dystopia scale. 1984 is about a regime that is soul-crushingly evil to the point that suspension of disbelief is strained, and maintains its grip on the populace through the traditional methods of deprivation and fear. Brave New World is about a much nicer place where the population is pacified by means of trivial amusements and bred to be vapid and docile, but content. To illustrate: in Oceania, if you disobey the rules the best you can hope for is torture, brainwashing and death. In the World State, the worst our heroes are threatened with is being sent to Iceland. I know where I'd rather live. The fact that Brave New World's dystopia is less obviously evil makes it much more interesting. That said, I felt Huxley missed the mark a bit when he was building his dystopia - I don't consider it that bad. It's certainly better than the world we have now. John the Savage was certainly intended to be the hero, but to me he just came across as a close-minded idiot.JayDub147 said:Brave New World
It's kind of similar to 1984, but focuses more on a breakdown of morality and a reliance on artificial "happiness."
and the good guy kills himself
I thought you were me for a second.uvr5672 said:Animal Farm. I liked Boxers spirit, then Napoleon sent him off to the glue factory.
1984 was depressive too. Actually... anything I´ve read by George Orwell is sad and I love all of it.
Not related, but what the hell is your avatar? Is it a Weasly twin with a ridiculous hat?MrDeano89 said:anything by edgar allen poe
This fucker right here.Snuggle said:"The Road" - Cormac McCarthy. The story of man and his son's trek towards the coast in post-apocalyptic America. Absolutely grueling.
I have to agree on 1984, off the top of my head its the most depressing thing I ever read. I didn't go all the way to tears(not on that book anyway) but it was really disheartening. I tried to figure out a way that someone could actually go all the way and overthrow Oceania but I couldn't find it. Even the ones that seemed plausible always ended with the other two countries eating it in it's weakened state.MurderousToaster said:For me, it has to be 1984 by George Orwell. It takes the proud place of the only book to ever nearly reduce me to tears with its' ending. It really leaves you feeling that there is no hope for the world.
I think that readers tend to sympathize with the 'monster' more than Victor becauseWitty Name Here said:So, out of all the books I've read, what is the most depressing to me? Frankenstein.
Honestly, many people pity the monster, but out of all the characters in Frankenstein, I feel the saddest for the good doctor. Most of the time Frankenstein is made out to be some cackling madman, but the original book gives him quite a different portrayal. Frankenstein isn't some madman, he's a brilliant and idealistic young mind. It isn't power that motivates Frankenstein, just a thirst for knowledge, a desire to change the world and do good... And then when he finally completes his project, he makes one mistake, one perfectly normal mistake: He is absolutely terrified of what he created. This leaves a monster out wandering the world that may very well be doing anything and he had no power to stop it.
The fact that he slowly sees his world torn apart, his friends and family murdered in absolutely brutal ways, and the love of his life strangled to death on their honeymoon only pushes him farther and farther on the teetering edge of sanity, to the point where by the time we meet him he's already accepted the fact that he will die not soon after he deals with the monster. Rejecting the monster may have been stupid, but he had genuinely understandable reasons to do so.
From a meta point of view I'd agree with Grapes of Wrath because I consider it a poorly written piece of garbage.gary the red shirt said:either "of mice and men" or "the grapes of wrath". Steinbeck just has a way with making bad stuff happen to good people.[http://dragcave.net/view/jNC1]![]()
InnerRebellion said:The Giver.