The most obvious movie allegory for US politics!

[Sylveria]

Today I finally got around to seeing Prince of Persia. One of Movie Bob's statements was that this movie has a political message as an Iraq war allegory. Yes, taxation, invasion under false pretense, political deception, war, etc. all these things only existed since America invaded Iraq. I mean, come on, it would be silly to go to war for something silly like taxation.

And this leads me to my convoluted point. On my way through the mall I walked past a DVD stand and saw the movie Independence Day. I thought to myself.. this movie is obviously and Iraq war allegory! Sure it was made several years before the war started, but that just demonstrates how brilliant it truly is! See the Aliens represent America, coming in and blowing up all the cities of the Earth (which represents Iraq) so they can take out the existing government, take it over, and harvest the resources. But the earthlings, representing the Iraqi insurgents, struggle against this overwhelming power and keep this hostile foreign presence out. They even eventually find a weakness and overcome the invading aliens! Now you say, the insurgents haven't pushed America back, but that's not the point! You see the alien ships exploding actually represent an aspect of US politics. See the mother ship exploding represents Obama destroying the country and all the other smaller ships represent things like healthcare reform and the housing market crash. It's all there, on screen, before it even happened! The end.

P.S. See, with almost no effort, anything can become a political allegory. Don't try so hard to attach a political message to everything.

 

[moose_man]

Excellent point, and I agree.

 

[Druyn]

Made me smirk a bit. You put into words but Ive been thinking for a long time! Hollywood is not all about politics. Dont read into everything please, reviewers!

But your allegory was lovely, indeed.

 

[Kair]

Looking past your flawed arguments, I guess you can say that any way you look at it, USA comes out as the bad guy in the world. My guess is that because of this you can find allegories for the United States to almost every bad guy in film history.

 

[Flying-Emu]

Looking past your flawed arguments, I guess you can say that any way you look at it, USA comes out as the bad guy in the world. My guess is that because of this you can find allegories for the United States to almost every bad guy in film history.

United States is Darth Vader.

GO GO GO

 

[Boba Frag]

Sure. Obama wrecked your country. Right. Not the Neo-Cons and not Bush, and certainly not Cheney.

Gotcha.

 

[Kair]

Looking past your flawed arguments, I guess you can say that any way you look at it, USA comes out as the bad guy in the world. My guess is that because of this you can find allegories for the United States to almost every bad guy in film history.

United States is Darth Vader.

GO GO GO

Let me demonstrate by connecting USA to Darth Vader.

USA was once a fledgling far-left revolutionary nation, just like Darth Vader was once Anakin Skywalker, a part of the rebel alliance.

Later USA becomes corrupt as a result of Capitalism, just like Anakin becomes Darth Vader.
USA was once the pinnacle of social development. Like the rebel alliance opposed The Galactic Empire, the United States opposed both Imperial Britain and the remains of Feudalism.

Now United States is the very nemesis of social development itself, and hangs onto ideals that were obsolete 100 years ago. Like Darth Vader and The Empire fights the Rebel Alliance, the United States fights any sign of left-wing activity, and even uses some methods similar to that of the Galactic Empire.

 

[DrMetal]

Looking past your flawed arguments, I guess you can say that any way you look at it, USA comes out as the bad guy in the world. My guess is that because of this you can find allegories for the United States to almost every bad guy in film history.

United States is Darth Vader.

GO GO GO

Also Darth Vader is not a bad guy, he is just Anakin wearing a helmet... 50% of Fantasy bad guys, are gin fact good guys who wear helmets or hats... Hence why Real Hero never wears head gear.

Another good example in Atharas.

 

[JEBWrench]

Sure. Obama wrecked your country. Right. Not the Neo-Cons and not Bush, and certainly not Cheney.

Gotcha.

And not every other president over the past 100 years or so.

I think you may have missed the joke, comrade.

 

[Danny Ocean]

I mean, come on, it would be silly to go to war for something silly like taxation.

This part made me grin.

Also Darth Vader is not a bad guy, he is just Anakin wearing a helmet... 50% of Fantasy bad guys, are gin fact good guys who wear helmets or hats... Hence why Real Hero never wears head gear.

So, working with Kair's allegory, we can say that the helmet is the black helmet of Capitalism?

 

[Flying-Emu]

Looking past your flawed arguments, I guess you can say that any way you look at it, USA comes out as the bad guy in the world. My guess is that because of this you can find allegories for the United States to almost every bad guy in film history.

United States is Darth Vader.

GO GO GO

Let me demonstrate by connecting USA to Darth Vader.

USA was once a fledgling far-left revolutionary nation, just like Darth Vader was once Anakin Skywalker, a part of the rebel alliance.

Later USA becomes corrupt as a result of Capitalism, just like Anakin becomes Darth Vader.
USA was once the pinnacle of social development. Like the rebel alliance opposed The Galactic Empire, the United States opposed both Imperial Britain and the remains of Feudalism.

Now United States is the very nemesis of social development itself, and hangs onto ideals that were obsolete 100 years ago. Like Darth Vader and The Empire fights the Rebel Alliance, the United States fights any sign of left-wing activity, and even uses some methods similar to that of the Galactic Empire.

I love you. Bear my children.

 

[bookboy]

Looking past your flawed arguments, I guess you can say that any way you look at it, USA comes out as the bad guy in the world. My guess is that because of this you can find allegories for the United States to almost every bad guy in film history.

United States is Darth Vader.

GO GO GO

Let me demonstrate by connecting USA to Darth Vader.

USA was once a fledgling far-left revolutionary nation, just like Darth Vader was once Anakin Skywalker, a part of the rebel alliance.

actually, Anakin waas never part of the rebel alliance, as that had not been formed before he became Vader. also, because Anakin was fighting for the republic in the prequels, he was actually trying to suppress the rebellion that was attempting to over throw the centralized government.

 

[Giest4life]

Two girls one cup.

 

[Kair]

Looking past your flawed arguments, I guess you can say that any way you look at it, USA comes out as the bad guy in the world. My guess is that because of this you can find allegories for the United States to almost every bad guy in film history.

United States is Darth Vader.

GO GO GO

Let me demonstrate by connecting USA to Darth Vader.

USA was once a fledgling far-left revolutionary nation, just like Darth Vader was once Anakin Skywalker, a part of the rebel alliance.

actually, Anakin waas never part of the rebel alliance, as that had not been formed before he became Vader. also, because Anakin was fighting for the republic in the prequels, he was actually trying to suppress the rebellion that was attempting to over throw the centralized government.

All right. Sorry, I was never that much of a Star Wars fan.

 

[Kpt._Rob]

Actually, it seems to me more like you were bending over ass backwards to pull out that "allegory" from Independence Day. Not that there wasn't any messaging behind that particular film.

So look, yes, if you want to bend and twist you can probably pull any message you want out of anything you want. Just look at the cavalcade of various messages people have pulled out of the bible. Like I said, you can read anything you want just about any way you want if you try hard enough.

That does not mean, however, that film makers can't actually try to put allegory into their films. They can and they do. Sometimes it's hokey and hackey and just ruins what should have been a fun film, and other times it's brilliantly done (look at District 9 for an example of this done right).

The fact is that the alien invasion has been used as an allegory going back all the way to The War of the Worlds (the book was orginally meant as a discussion of colonialism, and I'm citing some authors here who actually have done the research in saying that), and so it's not hard to read any number of allegorical situations into it. Don't think you're clever just because you pulled it off with Independence Day.

 

[silver wolf009]

W /thread.
Its a satire of Bush Jr. You cant get more on the mark for an allegory than that.

 

[photog212]

Two girls one cup.

Now that you mention it, I do see the resemblance between that and the Gulf oil spill.

 

[Giest4life]

Two girls one cup.

Now that you mention it, I do see the resemblance between that and the Gulf oil spill.

I actually was thinking more along the lines of how two parties [girls] are doing horrible, horrible things to the USA [the cup]. It's a stretch, I know, but that's the best way for me to remember.