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Dangit2019

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I don't get why everybody's so mad that zombies are fast and can be held off a bit by body shots.

Let me ask you something (this is on topic, I swear). How do you kill a vampire?

You: Stake to the chest, holy water, etc.
The correct answer is however the hell you want, because VAMPIRES AREN'T F&%#ING REAL. People are getting mad at this for being scientifically incorrect about something that has NEVER EXISTED. EVER.

Granted, the book did set some ground rules, but really, if they made the movie zombies in the reality of the Max Brooks books (which were awesome, by the way), it just wouldn't make for cinematic moments. It would be just kind of depressing because everything you used to kill them would absolutely suck and you would get infected.

As for the movie quality, I would say that this has about the same chance that every other genre movie has: innocent until proven guilty. Plan B has made some really good movies, however (Kick-Ass, Tree of Life, etc.), so I'm hoping this will win out by not sucking.
 

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Elijah Newton said:
I don't know if it ever actually happened, but one of the definitions of a Category 4 Zombie Outbreak (or somesuch) was that zombies were so numerous that physical defenses were useless. Think it said specifically that walls or high buildings would be subsumed as zombies simply crawled on top of one another until they inadvertantly made a pile.
That's it, that's what I was thinking of. Thank you for mentioning it!
 

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Okay as a movie in and of itself, it looks good. Exciting action, good looking stars and some great battle scenes.

As a fan of World War Z..... GRAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHH *Rage induced stroke)

I get the argument that you could never take all of World War Z and make it into a movie (though it could make a great trilogy) and I get that the more complex political elements of the book may bore traditional action movie audiences but Jesus is it too much to ask that whatever of the source material does survive the cutting board at least resemble the source material in some way?

Running zombies? Running zombies that all mesh together into a blurred CGI mess? Running zombies that don't honestly look all that visually different from the humans fleeing them? Is it so much to ask that the movie adaptation at least resemble the Max Brooks zombie?

I wish like hell they would follow the format of the book, but I guess that's too much to ask. Again had it not been for the title, I would be psyched for this movie. Right now all I can feel is detached bitterness.
 

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Fatboy_41 said:
This is going to be just like I Am Legend. Nothing in common with the source material except the title.
Thog say, "Him hit nail on head."

OT: The trailer has to show explosions and headshots or no one will go see the damn movie. Sad fact, people don't go to the movies to think. Zombies are fer killin'!

Planet of the Apes did the same thing a couple years ago. The trailer was all jumping monkeys and gunfire. I must say I was pleasantly surprised with how good it turned out to be.

Here's hoping.

EDIT: Of course, I haven't watched the trailer. Doesn't sound good......
EDIT 2: Just watched it. Gah. Fuck Hollywood.
 

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Sorry, but a human tower? That relies on the pilots working alone, and being both blind and slow to react. Still does not very well explain how zombies take on a TANK. 80 tons of armor needs a bit more than fists and teeth to dent.
That helicopter needs to rearm and refuel at some point, hard to do if your base is over-run.
Military bases tend to be at least some ways away from a city, often miles away, which is quite a distance to run, and any military strategy is going to revolve around keeping those things up and running.

Same principal with a tank. Sure it is effective at stopping zombies but also requires a great deal of fuel to run. Can you take out a bunch of zombie and get back to refuel before you are overwhelmed.
Yes. While tanks need a lot of fuel, they also have HUGE fuel tanks in them so they can be deployed for battles on hours on end. If a tank charges at a load of zombies, those zombies are not going to "overwhelm" the tank, the tank will flatten them.

Zombies don't tire, they don't need food. They are just going to keep coming. Yet if just one part of the human supply chain fails, we're screwed.
Zombies, undead, the infected, or otherwise still have to obey the laws of physics. You con only convert existing energy, you cannot create new energy. You need food so your body has energy to move. Otherwise, you tire out and starve. Also, constantly pushing the body beyond it's limits is going to do serious damage to muscle fibers, tissues, and the bones. The zombies would just break their legs off, forcing them to a crawl. Also, the RECORD speed ever achieved by a person (set by Usian Bolt during the Olympics) is only 27 miles an hour, and that was only during a 100 meter dash by the worlds best athlete. A normal human zombie would not be able to travel very far going that speed, and not get anywhere very fast at any slower speed.

Some other things your forgetting. Zombies, on average, must infect more people than the numbers they are losing, and their is only a finite amount of people that would not be able to drive away or defend themselves with firearms (this film does take place in the gun happy USA, after all) or other weapons. Also, biting is a VERY poor way to spread dieases. That is why rabies is such a rare condition even though it often infects creatures that are VERY good at biting other things.
 

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Not G. Ivingname said:
Military bases tend to be at least some ways away from a city, often miles away, which is quite a distance to run, and any military strategy is going to revolve around keeping those things up and running.
Very true, but the point of zombies is that they never tire and they can simply keep walking.

Yes. While tanks need a lot of fuel, they also have HUGE fuel tanks in them so they can be deployed for battles on hours on end. If a tank charges at a load of zombies, those zombies are not going to "overwhelm" the tank, the tank will flatten them.
Not entirely true. Tanks do have huge fuel tanks, but the nation has a limited fuel supply to keep those tanks gassed up and if the supply chain breaks down, those tanks have problems. Likewise there is a limit to have many zombies can be crushed before the treads of a tank simply become jammed with the bodies of undead.

Zombies don't tire, they don't need food. They are just going to keep coming. Yet if just one part of the human supply chain fails, we're screwed.
Zombies, undead, the infected, or otherwise still have to obey the laws of physics. You con only convert existing energy, you cannot create new energy. You need food so your body has energy to move. Otherwise, you tire out and starve. Also, constantly pushing the body beyond it's limits is going to do serious damage to muscle fibers, tissues, and the bones. The zombies would just break their legs off, forcing them to a crawl. Also, the RECORD speed ever achieved by a person (set by Usian Bolt during the Olympics) is only 27 miles an hour, and that was only during a 100 meter dash by the worlds best athlete. A normal human zombie would not be able to travel very far going that speed, and not get anywhere very fast at any slower speed.
That's the trouble with fighting the zombies from World War Z, they don't seem to obey the law of energy conservation. If you lock a dozen zombies in a room, wait ten years and come back those dozen zombies will still be there and every bit as deadly as they were a decade before. Given the fact World War Z never tells you where the infection came from its entirely possible that some Chinese diver got bitten by a ten thousand year old zombie somewhere deep beneath the waves.

Some other things your forgetting. Zombies, on average, must infect more people than the numbers they are losing, and their is only a finite amount of people that would not be able to drive away or defend themselves with firearms (this film does take place in the gun happy USA, after all) or other weapons. Also, biting is a VERY poor way to spread dieases. That is why rabies is such a rare condition even though it often infects creatures that are VERY good at biting other things.
Yep, biting is often pretty inefficient but in the case of World War Z a zombie bite that breaks the skin has a 100% mortality rate. It should also be noted that the book starts out in China where the government's mishandling of the situation allows it to spread across the entire world somewhat subtly festering in poor areas until the great panic occurred.
 

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The trailer looks retarded. I've never read the mentioned book so I can't judge, but the trailer reminded me of some call of duty zombie dlc thing, only the zombies still appeared close to humanish.
 

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The con is that it feels nothing like World War Z, and that's disappointing.

The upside will likely get me flamed.

The upside is that they have apparently moved away from daddy Romero's outdated and silly idea of slow and rotting zombies as the only real zombies. They made a zombie action movie that feels a little more realistic in how the zombies are fairly normal people except they are constantly trying to bite you. Like 28 Days Later, except without the grossness. That makes the zombies that much more identifiable, which is actually more terrifying. These zombies don't feel like monsters, they feel like human beings that happen to be trying to murder you in a mindless way. Theres no rotting flesh or shambling stride to separate these zombies from human beings we identify with. We can relate to these zombies, because they are like normal people who happen to be mindless killers. That's a good enough twist to make this movie worth considering, even if it is a twist that is the exact opposite of the books. Now as I say this, the movie could easilly be terrible. But if they include some hints of the brutal practicality of the books, it could easilly be a good movie. The point I want to make is that the kind of zombies they have gone with will NOT sink this movie. Its a valid kind of zombie to use.
 

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i wish de caprio had won the bidding war.

thats all i have to say on the matter till i see it

also horible font, worst font for the title of a zombie film ever

(there have been some great fonts in zombie film history.)
 

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tippy2k2 said:
This will sound like a weird question but...has there ever been a zombie movie with a good actor in it (as in, a great actor who is considered an A list celebrity)? That alone makes me excited for this movie.*
I figure by now this has likely been ninja'd by the oldest most decrepit ninja in the old ninjas home... But Technically, I am legend was put out right about at the height of Will Smiths acting popularity, where he was about the biggest thing going at the time. So technically, yeah, kinda, and we saw how that ended up.

Edit:OT: Well, Yeah, this does not look promising... The book really did not lend itself to a film format in any way, so you know that there is basically no way this will come out without massive deviation from the source material. Now, I am kinda fine with that. Some films have pulled that trick off, and technically it would not even be the first zombie related film to pull that trick off with moderate results (Resident Evil)

But Zombies right now are well beyond the point of mass saturation. Essentially there is nothing we can do with them at this point that hasnt already been jackhammered into the ground. I do respect Pitt as a decent actor, but you do have to remember, hes been in some pretty shit films too, so hes not always good at making decisions. Does not help that his career has been on a lull with political and indie arthouse type films. This is the kind of film that could easily tank due to lukewarm public interest and essentially kill a career.
 

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tippy2k2 said:
This will sound like a weird question but...has there ever been a zombie movie with a good actor in it (as in, a great actor who is considered an A list celebrity)? That alone makes me excited for this movie.*
I am legend?
 

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Well this is disappointing, I was hoping for a documentary style movie following the narrator in World War Z.
Never mind, that probably wouldn't have been very good. AT least this looks fun!
 

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If people want to make a mindless zombie-action-shooter movie, then fine. But slapping the title "World War Z" on it has now ruined the chance for one of my favourite books ever to actually get a respectable movie tie-in that remains loyal to the source.
 

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Sorry if this is advertising, but I already commented on this in video format;

In short, the trailer showed little of the sense of a worsening crisis that the book did so well (although that could be a poor trailer rather than a poor film) the change to fast zombies is lame, and poorly CGI'd zombies even lamer. Possibly an entertaining, dumb movie, but only if you can get past how little it has in common with the book, and only if the movie makes us really care about the characters.

Oh, and the major crime in all this? If fans ever want to do their own mock interviews/full, faithful fan films again, they'll come up against a load of copyright issues that weren't really there before this movie. I mean, come on. If you ain't gonna do it loyally, don't screw the fans for doing it themselves.
 

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Regarding A-List celebrities in zombie movies : I can't put my finger on it, but has anyone mentioned the where Johnny Depp played a zombie? Alongside Geoffrey Rush, and that Bloom kid from LotR? You know, cursed along with all the other guys in the ship to walk the earth until the end of their days unless they recovered all the cursed treasure. Because they were pirates. In the Carribbean? ( this ringing any bells with anyone? I'm pretty sure I didn't imagine it... )

PatrickXD said:
Well this is disappointing, I was hoping for a documentary style movie following the narrator in World War Z.
Never mind, that probably wouldn't have been very good. AT least this looks fun!
Fall on your sword, man! Don't doubt your instincts like that. Certainly an excellent documentary-style movie could've been made. That style would've had nothing to do with it being fun or not. Sorry, not to attack your opinion, which you're entitled to, but for all I know you're going to be the one to write / direct / produce / act in something really cool like what you imagined. To hear you settle for this as ok because it looks like every other d*mn thing out there is, as the kiddies say, weaksauce.
 

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Elijah Newton said:
PatrickXD said:
Well this is disappointing, I was hoping for a documentary style movie following the narrator in World War Z.
Never mind, that probably wouldn't have been very good. AT least this looks fun!
Fall on your sword, man! Don't doubt your instincts like that. Certainly an excellent documentary-style movie could've been made. That style would've had nothing to do with it being fun or not. Sorry, not to attack your opinion, which you're entitled to, but for all I know you're going to be the one to write / direct / produce / act in something really cool like what you imagined. To hear you settle for this as ok because it looks like every other d*mn thing out there is, as the kiddies say, weaksauce.
You know what? You're right! Damn my complacency, and damn the guys who're making this movie! They should have some balls and give the world something new, something that could be awesome as opposed to something that's just going to be 'OK'!