I'm thinking the same thing, plus, if this was what was planned and it got leaked somehow, looking at the reception of the idea may have them change it anyway.Terminate421 said:
The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray discs and new Kinect
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Because they're going to do the same for physical game disks you buy, and DLC is not the same as the entire game. DLC I can understand as an incentive to buy the full game. The full game being account locked while it's not DD. No...just no. When I buy a physical copy I own that copy. And I should be able to do with it what I want, including selling it again.Crono1973 said:
This is exactly the reason, by the way, why I hardly have any DD games. Only ones that aren't available on physical disk.
Assuming this is all true, fuck Microsoft. Sony better not pull any of this crap or I'm going straight to PC, do not collect $200. Being online constantly is actually a fucking pain for some people. I for one have a spotty connection thanks to being in a valley, in Australia, so it drops out basically whenever someone uses the phone. Furthermore, there are times when you just want to play offline. And my views about second-hand games are once the second-hand game market goes, sales of new games are going to suffer. I'm not having any part of any console that does this.
They are going to do the same thing Steam does. Your physical games will have an activation key and once activated it will be linked with your account permanently.sanquin said:
If they do this, your physical copy will become as worthless as a physical copy of Portal 2.
Because not using them would be idiotic. Blu ray looks great and has great storage capacity. Sony isn't the only one who owns it, they only own a slice of the pie.shrekfan246 said:
Nintendo is not using Blu discs. They made their own, and they even spin the opposite direction in the disc drive. They are also only single layer 25gb. Anyone who isn't dumb uses 50 dual layer.Crono1973 said:
Popping the game in and just being able to play it. Offline.
You have the game disk/cartridge, you can play that game period.
That's the one thing that defines consoles for me.
It's very simple and hard to fuck up but if this is true, they managed to do just that.
This sounds too unbelievable to be true.
You have the game disk/cartridge, you can play that game period.
That's the one thing that defines consoles for me.
It's very simple and hard to fuck up but if this is true, they managed to do just that.
This sounds too unbelievable to be true.
This is last year's rumor. Only an idiot would do something like that. Microsoft is in a lot of financial trouble already. They would never risk something like this.
No they are not doing the same thing steam does. You don't buy a physical game on steam. You buy a license to download and use a game with their service. Buying a physical game in a store and putting a disk in the console is pretty much the exact opposite of being the same as that. Yet they still want to treat it like it's a digital license purchase. Which is bullshit.Crono1973 said:
If you can buy physical copies of steam games (valve's own franchises excluded) then they aren't 'steam games' but 'games that are also available on steam'.Crono1973 said:
If you mean physical games you buy that have a forced steam requirement on them. I think those are bullshit too and have never bought any of them.
As fun as it is to think that they're actually going to do this, this article has absolutely no facts to back up any of it's claims.
Microsoft can be greedy. But they're not stupid. If they went through with this, they'd effectually be cutting the consumer base that is even remotely informed about they're purchases, which has been getting pretty damn big. And seeing as how Microsoft has avoided always online DRM before this, and seeing how the practice is slowly starting to die out, I'd hazard a guess and say that is also bullshit.
No more disk drives? Maybe. But I doubt it. Once again, I'd say a sizable market doesn't have an internet connection to sustain downloadable games.
It would make no sense for them to enact on any of these things. They don't monopolize the gaming market, and I think they're smart enough to realize the biggest reason they stayed ahead this most recent console generation was fortunate timing.
You've got Sony, who's all but gone and said that they're waiting for Microsoft to make the first move, just so they can top them. You've now also got Valve, who's planning on redefining the home console entertainment system, and will pretty much grab the "inbetween" crowd (People who're considering switching to PC gaming). And if Apple decided to jump into the mix, I wouldn't be surprised if they grabbed a good portion of the casual crowd with the WiiU.
Microsoft can be greedy. But they're not stupid. If they went through with this, they'd effectually be cutting the consumer base that is even remotely informed about they're purchases, which has been getting pretty damn big. And seeing as how Microsoft has avoided always online DRM before this, and seeing how the practice is slowly starting to die out, I'd hazard a guess and say that is also bullshit.
No more disk drives? Maybe. But I doubt it. Once again, I'd say a sizable market doesn't have an internet connection to sustain downloadable games.
It would make no sense for them to enact on any of these things. They don't monopolize the gaming market, and I think they're smart enough to realize the biggest reason they stayed ahead this most recent console generation was fortunate timing.
You've got Sony, who's all but gone and said that they're waiting for Microsoft to make the first move, just so they can top them. You've now also got Valve, who's planning on redefining the home console entertainment system, and will pretty much grab the "inbetween" crowd (People who're considering switching to PC gaming). And if Apple decided to jump into the mix, I wouldn't be surprised if they grabbed a good portion of the casual crowd with the WiiU.
Skyrim is a Steam game because it requires Steam but you can buy a physical copy. Once you activate the game on Steam though the DVD is worthless.sanquin said:
It doesn't matter what you think of games that require Steam, your opinion of them has nothing to do with our discussion. My point is that like Skyrim, 720 games will have an activation code that will make the disc worthless after it's activated. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?
Do I only need to buy the console once to enjoy it for the whole console generation?Crono1973 said:
If so, Jump In.
If not, Jump Out.
360 was the only console I skipped because of it's hardware problems.
Locally I have four friends who own the console and luckiest of them still had to buy 3 of them.
I hate how "always online" has become a thing.
If they crash my games as soon as the connection drops then this would be the worst decision ever.
If they crash my games as soon as the connection drops then this would be the worst decision ever.