The Nineteen Sexualities and You!

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Radoh

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Okay, so to start, some backstory of why I came up with this: Yesterday I was forced to discuss sexuality with a man who believed it was a black and white, set in stone thing, you are either Gay or Straight (Bisexuality is something he doesn't believe in) which really irked me since I know better.

But that got me to thinking, why couldn't I make it black and white? Sexuality has always been murky, but since I'm bored and have little else to do I figured I met as well kill an hour or two trying to classify most sexualities.

So I started with a line, with Heterosexual on one side, Homosexual on the other, and Bisexual in the middle. I then broke up several points between the two ends with Heavily Preferred, Preferred, and Lightly Preferred on either side, denoting that True Bisexuality is actually pretty rare, and that more often than not Bisexuals have preferences.

Then taking into account Nonsexuality, I made each of these points on a separate scale of their own with three points, the top being the "Regular Interest" Scale, and then the "Minor Interest", and finally "No Interest at all", because similar to Bisexuals, True Nonsexuals are also hard to come by.

However then I realised that the bottom row made no sense: How could they have no interest and still denote what they would have interest in? So I removed that and simply plotted a point unattached to the two lines and labeled it True Nonsexual, leaving a total of nineteen points of sexuality to divide it up.

Then came the question, "If we have separate ranges for Nonsexuals from Average Sexual Interest, should I also create a third one for Heightened Sexual Interest, or would that just serve to divide things between men and women? (Reasoning being that as I see it Men are far more sexual creatures and thus much more likely to skew results in favor of the top half while women would likely stay around the average range, as well as it falling under the possible purview of Nymphomania and I don't know whether I'd classify what may be considered a disorder.)


So now onto the questions
Question One: Do you agree with this/What criticisms do you have for it?
Question Two: Do you think that I should have a HSI level, or should I just stick with ASI and NSI?

Edit: So apparently this already exists and I totally wasted three hours of my time inventing something that already is here with fancy graphs. Go ahead and disregard this thread then, sorry to have wasted your time and confuse a few people over it.
 

Akytalusia

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i think you were right in the first place, that you can't make it black and white and etc. the problem is no matter how you define any of them, they're always gonna have borders with each other with grey areas between them, as you no doubt see.

also, you should make a pretty chart. just saiyan.
 

Loop Stricken

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I can't help but imagine this chart as some freaky hexagon, where the two vertical perpendicular lines taper pretty damn rapidly at the bottom to "No sir I don't like it", and the top points straight to "Captain Jack Harkness".
 

Realitycrash

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Why does it have to be denoted more than Gay/Straight/Bi? How the hell does it matter how "much" bi you are? Why is it relevant?
I just don't see the point with putting numbers on what you prefer. "I prefer girls over guys, but some guys are hot enough for me to like them" should be enough.
If you are sexually aroused by another sex, then you aren't straight. How OFTEN you are aroused is pretty pointless.
(And make note that if you are aroused, but still do not have sex with the object of your desire, then you are still not straight in my mind. Arousal is enough, and no, thinking "Hey, that girl/guy is pretty hot" is not arousal. Arousal is wanting to have sexual contact)
 

=y

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I demand a graph because frankly sexual definitions have always confused me...
 

NiPah

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Sexuality is how much sexual arousal you get from a certain stimuli, you obtain this sexual arousal from learned memories and to an unknown level ingrained instinct. The notation system is a helpful tool to indicate which visual, auditory, olfactory, tactile, and gustatory stimuli will result in sexual arousal due to certain stimuli being associated with a certain gender. When the notation system becomes too complex it ceases to be useful, instead of saying I'm Transmixbimonday sexual it becomes easier to say "I want to have sex with that person".

Unless you do in fact feel that every male makes you 80% aroused while still saving 20% for the odd female.
 

Twilight_guy

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I think its a complex question but, honestly, your system sounds like a big mess to me. Maybe its just because of my mind being very science and math oriented but I prefer systems with a small number of simple and easy rules. Any time I see something with this many categories and situations, I immediately question it and try to find the simple rules that define the complex mess.
 

Godlikebuthumble

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Commendable effort, but what you came up with sounds pretty much like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

Also, for the curious: http://vistriai.com/kinseyscaletest/
 

Weealzabob

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While I would like more details about your scale I shall answer your questions.

Question 1: Thinking about it with pure logic, I guess I would say that I agree.
I don't think there are many people that are truly unbiased towards the gender of the person they're sleeping with, so it makes sense to have a sort of sliding scale of sorts. But I think it's fairly pointless too break it down into factions of bi-curiosity. And you have to many options.

Question 2: Just keep them separate. If someone's asexual, (Aside from being biologically weird.) they aren't relevant to your scale.
 

fireaura08

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Godlikebuthumble said:
Commendable effort, but what you came up with sounds pretty much like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

Also, for the curious: http://vistriai.com/kinseyscaletest/
Thank you. I was looking for this but forgot the name.
 

Navvan

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Question 1: You are somewhat trying to re-invent the wheel since the Kinsey scale already exists. However I do believe in degrees of hetero/homo sexuality as well as non-sexual/sexual interest.

Question 2:The problem as I see it is that you are trying to combine to related ideas, but that they are different enough to warrant separate scales. Just split the "Heterosexual-Homosexual" scale and the "Non-Sexual - Sexual" scales and there you go. There is no reason they should be combined.
 

Matthew Kjonaas

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=y said:
I demand a graph because frankly sexual definitions have always confused me...
same here I will remain confused mostly because many people claim to have the right answer but not experience all if the sexualities in life.
 

Darkmantle

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Straight/gay/Bi is the way I've always classified it, I find it funny that people get offended and start throwing degrees of sexuality at me. :p
 

xshadowscreamx

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i took that kinseytest...it said i failed or im an unusual person..lol..oh and i got a pc virus after the test.
 

Unsilenced

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Gay/straight/bi/asexual is as complicated as it really needs to get.

They're not perfect, sure, but you're never going to come up with a system that accurately describes every possible set of preferences. They're basically infinite, and people in general often just aren't that sure themselves. You only need to ask for a general pattern, not some exact percentage that might change over time.
 

Relish in Chaos

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Well, fuck the people who think sexuality is a black-and-white thing, since they?re not worth wasting time on. Everyone?s on a fluid scale, and yeah, I?m one of those people who think most people are ?a little bit bi?. That?s why, if I was going to label myself in a somewhat all-encompassing way, I?d identify as a predominantly heterosexual male.

So heterosexual, homosexual/lesbian, bisexual, pansexual (which, no offence, might as well just be bisexual, since you?re still going to be dating both males and females), asexual (although that?s not a sexuality, the same way that Atheism isn?t a religion), whatever, on various sloping scales and whatnot. Arousal is not an exact science.

Some otherwise vanilla people can be into some pretty kinky shit if the circumstances are right. There are some people that just like sex, no matter who it's with. And there are some otherwise heterosexual men that like to experiment and have had sex with other men, but don't necessarily identify as anything other than heterosexual.

And don?t even get me started on paraphilias, and even that, I tend to wonder what exactly counts as a fetish, both in society and personally to me. If you?re a man who?s attracted to female bodybuilders, does that suddenly make you bisexual because you like that mix of masculine and feminine features, or is it just a fetish?
 

SaetonChapelle

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I feel like you have a lot of free time on your hands that I could only ever WISH i did.

It's all very complicated, and I don't think I will ever see it as black and white. Not sure what else to say to that.
 
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According to the Kinsey Scale test i'm a 2 (Predominantly heterosexual but more than incidentally homosexual), although for the time being I consider myself Bisexual (I'm not 100% sure what I am, but it certainly ain't straight!)
 

Clearing the Eye

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xshadowscreamx said:
i took that kinseytest...it said i failed or im an unusual person..lol..oh and i got a pc virus after the test.
Should have asked your router to wear a condom. Tsk, tsk.