You can't make everyone like Nintendo. It just isn't going to happen. Even I think Nintendo have lost their touch and I've loved Nintendo for as long as I've been gaming. ...until now that is.
The Nintendo experiment
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The funny thing is my Wii also functions as a door device.piinyouri said:
I placed it in a random cardboard box I had and put it against the wall behind my door as a doorstop.
Granted that I liked the Wii when I actually used it, but I just don't have the will to hook it back up and use it, nor do I have the money to buy any new games I might have wanted for it.
Because that would prove that motion control is pointless? (Besides, Xenoblade chronicles, The Last Story and Pandora's tower use no motion controls whatsoever, even when using the Wii remote. - Which is why it's possible to use a classic controller interchangeably.) XD - But seriously, for Twilight Princess, there's no reason why they couldn't have done that, given the existence of the gamecube version.Arqus_Zed said:
However, I will say that aiming a bow with the Wii remote is much more effective than with a thumbstick. I only realised this after going and playing Wind Waker again and realising just how hopeless the aim was by comparison.
Say what you will about it, but the pointer is the most effective part of the Wii's controls (much more so than the actual motion controls).
It works well for the same reason that PC gamers always argue that the mouse is better than a gamepad.
Twilight Princess isn't so bad with it though, to be honest. You only need the remote pointed at the screen when aiming something. (bow, clawshot, or similar). And the tradeoff in much increased accuracy is worth it IMO.
But then again, everyone's entitled to their own opinion I guess. And... Some people don't like change, regardless of whether it's an improvement or not. XD
1) My best multiplayer times are playing Golden Axe and Gunstar Heroes on the couch with a few beers. Fucking legendary good times. New Super Mario Bros co-op is an exercise in creative murder for me though as other players just get in my way.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
2)The Miiverse is actually really cool and can be a lot of funt o spend a little time in, needs a few more things like direct messaging to friends though, seems an odd oversight, and something like the 3DS letterbox would be a great way to do it.
3)I agree on your final point their about the LP's, Microsoft have done much worse, the big difference is that here on The Escapist they don't generally bother reporting when Microsoft do evil, or they didn't until the Xbox One. Most big games companies have engaged in this kind of evil though. At least Nintendo seem to be willing to co-operate with LP'ers in some way, perhaps through sponsorship and free games in return for a cut of the ad revenue? That would seem fair to me.
The Wii makes an excellent gamecube too.
I know that is basically the only thing I use the one I have for (my mum bought it because she thought it would help her lose weight LOL)
I know that is basically the only thing I use the one I have for (my mum bought it because she thought it would help her lose weight LOL)
My family is kind of the same way, except my dad used to play PC games and arcade games and can't deal with a modern gamepad in the slightest. Willing to wager I could get him to waste a few evenings on Civilization though.TizzytheTormentor said:
And yeah, like what you like man, haters gonna hate an the best thing to do is just keep having fun without them.
Don't know why Super Smash Bros. has to just be for multi-player. I always played against bots, still had plenty of fun. Back in high school, I could take out a 3v1 team of level 9 bots with Link, Roy, or Marth in Melee. Granted, sometimes Level 8s were actually more dangerous...OlasDAlmighty said:
Anyway, like everyone else has said, this is a pretty silly 'experiment', OP. I, for one, think New Super Mario Bros. games are rather bland and generic, like something that could just be pumped out of some Super Mario Bros. level generator. And Wind Waker is the only Zelda game I've ever really enjoyed.
Yeah, the Wii has some really good games on it. And yeah, the Wii U has one or two and will likely get a few more eventually, and I'll probably be lining up to buy one once Sonic Lost World comes out.
But you know what? This attitude of "Oh, you just need to play [Game], then you'll get it!" is exactly why people don't like... well, fanboys in general, but especially the Nintendo Defense Force, who seem more ardent in their defense than almost any other group of overprotective fans.
I mainly bought the Wii for the Virtual Console. My NES, SNES, and Genesis are finicky at best, and my Mario RPG and LOZ:ALTTP was stolen [cries]. The Wii wasn't much more expensive than paying full price for those two games alone over the counter.
Twilight Princess and Metroid Prime Trilogy was also worth it.
Twilight Princess and Metroid Prime Trilogy was also worth it.
[/quote] But you know what? This attitude of "Oh, you just need to play [Game], then you'll get it!" is exactly why people don't like... well, fanboys in general, but especially the Nintendo Defense Force, who seem more ardent in their defense than almost any other group of overprotective fans.[/quote]
I'm not saying you just have to 'play this game and you'll get it'. (If I was, I certainly could've done better than New Super Mario Bros.) All I'm saying is that you may not have been playing the way the game was designed. For example, having played 3 out of 4 NSMB games, they're getting pretty rote and unbearable for me; however, when I played NSMBU with my mother, who never plays video games, we had an incredibly fun time. My point was that I, as well as many other gamers, had judged the NSMB games before I tried playing with my family, as it seems it was intended to be played. I mean no judgement.
I'm not saying you just have to 'play this game and you'll get it'. (If I was, I certainly could've done better than New Super Mario Bros.) All I'm saying is that you may not have been playing the way the game was designed. For example, having played 3 out of 4 NSMB games, they're getting pretty rote and unbearable for me; however, when I played NSMBU with my mother, who never plays video games, we had an incredibly fun time. My point was that I, as well as many other gamers, had judged the NSMB games before I tried playing with my family, as it seems it was intended to be played. I mean no judgement.
Wait, what? I didn't much like the Wii except for a few games, and I don't particularly like the direction Nintendo were taking with it. That doesn't mean I don't understand the popularity of it, or the target audience. Just because I don't like something doesn't mean I can't understand that there are people who do. I played both of those games, and disliked both of them, and the amount of fun I was having while playing them was negligible, especially Twilight Princess. They're probably great games for someone, for lots of people even, just not for me. And you know what? That's fine, and just because a person didn't like the direction Nintendo went with the Wii, or didn't like most of the games, doesn't mean they didn't understand the target audience, or the reason it was so popular.
I've tried that with SSBB, guess what?
It wasn't very fun at all. I love the idea of Smash Bros., but I just find the game unpleasant. I think the Wii remote is entirely to blame. I HATE that controller. When the next one comes out, I might get it on 3DS, and I'm sure it'll be much better.
It wasn't very fun at all. I love the idea of Smash Bros., but I just find the game unpleasant. I think the Wii remote is entirely to blame. I HATE that controller. When the next one comes out, I might get it on 3DS, and I'm sure it'll be much better.
step one: buy wii
step two: buy actual controller for wii
step three: plug controller into wii-mote
step four: play games instead of waggling your wrist like some sort of trained chimp that masturbates to screen cues...
step five: throw away the wii, build a cheap gaming rig, get Steam/GOG/Green Man Games and stop putting up with console BS.
I honestly don't mind the wii that much, but trying to use the wiimote for anything but a waggle stick is horrible, the original NES had better ergonomics.
step two: buy actual controller for wii
step three: plug controller into wii-mote
step four: play games instead of waggling your wrist like some sort of trained chimp that masturbates to screen cues...
step five: throw away the wii, build a cheap gaming rig, get Steam/GOG/Green Man Games and stop putting up with console BS.
I honestly don't mind the wii that much, but trying to use the wiimote for anything but a waggle stick is horrible, the original NES had better ergonomics.
NSMB multiplayer is flawed simply because of the whole "bumping into other players" thing. This stops it from being a fun little co-op platforming romp into a rage fueled hatred dispenser because one person is inevitably better and one person ends up getting all the power ups and apparently people don't want to play with that one person.
Dear lord the cost of that trilogy goes up ever year. It's getting rarer and rarer.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
And when it comes to the LP things I think some sort of deal should be struck between the LPers that are parts of actual networks and with Nintendo. Mainly because while I hate that everyone has the ability to monetize these days, those who are part of the big networks had to work really hard to get to where they are now and deserve something as compensation. I've been LPing for about a year now and it is very time consuming as well as very expensive for equipment and with what I see on this site most people seem to think that LPing is the easiest thing ever. It is if you are just simply putting your camera in front of the TV, but for the actual editing softwares and HD capture cards it is pretty damn expensive. I benefit from Nintendo allowing it, but at the same time I never have monetized a single one of my videos and I've only done one Nintendo game and that was the 100% run of Luigi's Mansion.
Now don't get me wrong, I like Nintendo as a company, but they could have worked something out with the networks because while MS and Sony have done similar things they've actually made negotiations to allow the monetization with networks like Machinima and Roosterteeth. The main thing is that when you're in a partnership with networks like Machinima, Fullscreen Arcade, and The Gaming Station, you sign an actual legal contract to be a part of their network. That's just my two cents on the whole LPer thing really, and this is mainly because I've been LPing for a while now.
OT: You can't really force someone to like a company really. For me my Wii gets more use as a GameCube than for the actual Wii games. Mainly because the Wii games I wanted to play weren't out in the US and most of them never did, so I broke the region coding and bought myself some new imports. Sadly though I can't play the newer games because it would re-lock my console and I quite like playing One Piece Unlimited Crusie 1 and 2 as they are some of my favorite games. Plus I wouldn't use NSMB Wii as an example for multiplayer because more often than naught it just causes frustration and strains friendships, just like how Mario Parties and Mario Karts are designed to ruin friendships with star stealing and with those blue devils from hell! XD
I got a Wii for $8, and I still think it was a waste of money if it didn't play gamecube games, likely it can so I atleast got an $8 console. No not every parent wants to play games and alot of us are in our late 20's to mid 30's, we're getting to that age where Mario is:Matthew Jabour said:
1) OLD!
2) Feels too child like
3) Done done and done again to death, I played it when I was what, 5, maybe 7? Nothing changes and it's the perfect example of stagnation. I don't like CoD due to it, and Mario doesn't get the pass either.
4) Profit!!??