The Official Game Character Versus Game Character Thread

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LxDarko

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Goofonian said:
I feel like this is the right moment to point to <a href=http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=57998>this video.
Although I'm sure most of you will have already seen it.

Fenix has nothing on Master Chief or Samus. I mean he doesn't even wear a helmet.... can anyone say headshot?

I'm on a god of war binge at the moment, so how about Kratos Vs Nariko (Heavenly Sword)?
Before playing the Halo 3 beta I might have argeed with you about Fenix not having a chance, but after playing it. MC just seems to fragile to say Fenix couldn't kill him.

No, I think it would be an even fight. MC doesn't shoot while taking cover kinda hard to get a headshot if all you can see are their hands around a corner. And hey if an Elite could kill a Spartan so can Fenix.

But with MC's new equipment he take out Samus. The power drainer and a plasma grenade.

So, I guess I'll say, Fenix over MC in a shoot out. MC over Samus in gadget combat, and Fenix with Boomshot over Samus.

As for the Kratos vs Nariko fight we can't really judge that one yet. We just don't know enough about Nariko.
 

Logan Frederick

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Well, there are two distinct SPARTANs/Master Chiefs; the ones presented in the books and the ones in the games. For the sake of gameplay, the Maste Chief may not seem all that impressive. But, if one follows the Halo literature, you'd discover a Master Chief that can deflect airplane missiles with his arm and fight 20 elites in a close-quarters shootout/brawl.

If the fight is even based on the game characters, I'd still say MC could outmaneuver and outgun Fenix.
 

Russ Pitts

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Can we allow extended canon material? Not sure if that's fair.

As for Master Chief versus Marcus Fenix, I'd have to go with the Chief based purely on the weaponry available to him. Also, he has a shield. Fenix is tough and all, but in this case I think technology wins it.

As for Agent 47 versus Riddick, I have to go with Riddick. It's a tough match-up to neb sure, since they seem to be each other's nemesis. Agent 47 is a trained assassin - the best of the best. Riddick is renowned for being hard to kill, and hunting his hunters. So, like I said, tough. It'd be a great battle, but I think Riddick would ultimately win. While 47 is smart and capable and whatnot, Riddick has supernatural stuff going on that would put him over I think.

As for Agent 47 versus Golgo 13, I'm going with Golgo 13. Just because.
 

LxDarko

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Russ Pitts said:
Can we allow extended canon material? Not sure if that's fair.

As for Master Chief versus Marcus Fenix, I'd have to go with the Chief based purely on the weaponry available to him. Also, he has a shield. Fenix is tough and all, but in this case I think technology wins it.
I think for this discussion we should keep it to the games and cannon the games are directly based from, outside Cannon is fun and all but, if they can't do that stuff in the game it's nothing more than a fairy tale while playing the character.

You do make a good point about that shield. But against a torque bow that shield becomes a non-issue. MC just seems to fragile to me, maybe I think Fenix over the Cheif because MC can't shot from behind cover in the games at least.

Ok here's one Splinter Cell(series)'s Sam Fisher vs MGS(series)'s Snake, MGS4 doesn't count because it isn't out yet.
 

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LxDarko said:
You do make a good point about that shield. But against a torque bow that shield becomes a non-issue. MC just seems to fragile to me, maybe I think Fenix over the Cheif because MC can't shot from behind cover in the games at least.
You can use cover in Halo, it just isn't mapped to a function. I'm not a fan of the hype and credit they are getting for features they aren't really responsible for coming up with (even if they did change it slightly). To say MC can't use cover is plain mad, its a basic combat tactic along with squeezing the trigger and aiming at what you want to hit.

Also, I think we have to take at least some stuff from outside of the games. Some characters aren't caputred well by the games alone.
 

Andy Chalk

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If a character can't be defined well enough within the confines of a particular game, then that's a flaw that should work against the character. Stuff outside the game - novels, movies, etc. - is just Made-Up Crap, and shouldn't count.
 

Goofonian

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I still reckon MC over Fenix.

MC is an artificially enhanced super soldier while Fenix is just a massive guy with an array of powerful weapons.
 

Blaxton

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Did you just say that stuff outside of games is made up crap? I'm confused... what does that mean?

I think it should break down as follows:

Borrowed characters, which originally appear in other media: those source materials should be admissible.

Books/comics based on characters from games are, perhaps, less proper to draw from.
 

Russ Pitts

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LxDarko said:
Ok here's one Splinter Cell(series)'s Sam Fisher vs MGS(series)'s Snake, MGS4 doesn't count because it isn't out yet.
So awesome.

I'm going with Snake on this one, even though I prefer the Splinter Cell games themselves. Sam is a great spy, but his full-on warriorness is a bit light compared to Snake's.
 

Andy Chalk

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"Made-Up Crap" is is a different kind of made-up crap than regular made-up crap that's in game, is all I'm saying.

Okay, no, I don't know where I'm going with this.
 

Russ Pitts

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Regardless of whatever accepted definition of made-up crap, for this discussion let's restrict ourselves to in-game made-up crap please. In debate and parliamentary proceedings, this is what's called a "rule of order" and we now have one. We're so official it hurts.
 

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The battle of the gods: Amaterasu (wolf, female, sun goddess, from Okami) v. Kratos (human, male, badass, from God of War).
 
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Russ Pitts said:
Even better, Agent 47 versus Golgo 13.
As much as I love the Hitman series, the ending for Golgo 13: The Professional is something I will never forget, thus I go with Duke Togo.

Now, what I would like to see...

Ryu Hayabusa vs. Hanzo Hattori, that would probably end with the world exploding...
 

Arbre

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Woah!
That's a cute geeky thread there!

Erm, so, let's see.

- Samus Aran vs. Master Chief.

I admit that my memories about Samus have stopped at the SNES, but if the level of technology hasn't regressed since then, and if her suits still kick much ass with phase beams that go through walls, ice beams and whatelse, insane biosuit toughness that let her run in lava, several meditanks for more health, super boost speed, jump in air, near invincible morphball with super bombs, heavy homing missiles, etc., the Chief is cooked, shield or not.

- JC Denton vs. Gordon Freeman.

Freeman may have a suit of some sort, it's nothing against the weapons and implants of Denton.
Plus if Freeman looses his glasses, he's blind. If Denton looses his glasses, he's just a tad less cool.

- Laura Croft vs. Ada Wong.

A draw. They're both athletic, intelligent, tough, cunning and skilled when it comes to gunfire. Then Lara goes down inside the Plaguas caves. She's an archeologist, she starts to dig for fossiles, gets infected, and becomes super Lara (with a few mental issues). As a superior specimen, she's like an infected Krauser. She wins.
I don't like Lara Croft though.

There's one that I''ve playing around in my mind from time to time.

- Kratos vs. Dante.

Say, erm, Kratos with all techniques and powers combined, at the end of the first game, just before he joins the Olympus jetset, against Dante, at the end of DMC3 (level equivalent to that of the battle against Virgil), with, again, all techniques and powers combined.
 

Russ Pitts

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OK, it's Friday folks. Let's see some game hero pairing. It's not like we've anything better to do before along weekend.

Who haven't we tried yet? Max Payne versus McCoy from Blade Runner. Go!
 

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Russ Pitts said:
OK, it's Friday folks. Let's see some game hero pairing. It's not like we've anything better to do before along weekend.

Who haven't we tried yet? Max Payne versus McCoy from Blade Runner. Go!
Dammit, you finally got me. Max for Bullet Time. Also, if he's on Valkyrie, he can't be killed by normal means.
 

Russ Pitts

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See, I would have gone for McCoy, cause hunting replicants is far more difficult than killing your average hoodlum. And his trenchcoat is cooler. But you might have me on bullet time.

What about Bionic Commando versus the guy from Lost Planet?
 

Arbre

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Bionic Commando's sarge looses, because he's only used to fight in 2D environments. :p
 
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Mind if I throw a curveball? They're not individual characters, but:

Protoss vs Ur-Quan


Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

-Samus Aran vs. Master Chief

My first instinct is Samus. But when I think about playing Halo versus playing Metroid Prime, I feel much more powerful as the Chief. He's nimbler to play, more agile, and every kill seems much more visceral. Samus feels like sluggish and unresponsive by comparison, like everything is happening at a distance. Even the weapons emphasise it: bullety rifles are more "real" than energy beams. You don't get that Halo-like sense that you could backflip out of danger if only there was a button for it.

To exaggerate a little, it's a barge vs a speedboat. Sure the barge is heavier, but it's also heavier. I don't think Samus could hit the Chief.


-JC Denton vs. Gordon Freeman

Mr Freeman is one bad dude, there's no doubt, and on the right day he might have a chance against JC. But what about JC and those three mech droids JC just reprogrammed to fight for him?

Didn't think so.