The Orville - Star Trek Fanfiction...with penis jokes.

[Hawki]

Not if the wormhole was destroyed after the timeline was changed so that the Orville was saved.
Look at it this way: The Orville was destroyed on Monday. Pria traveled from next Saturday to Sunday to set up rescuing and collecting the Orville. On Tuesday Pria takes the Orville through the wormhole to next Saturday. Issac regains control of the Orville and takes it back through the wormhole to Tuesday (effectively 'locking in' Pria's first visit). Captain Mercer orders the wormhole destroyed on Wednesday.

I'm not quite following.

If destroying the wormhole in the past prevents it from existing in the future, then Pria should never be able to travel back at all. Ergo, she never comes back, and the Orville should be destroyed in the dark matter storm. Otherwise it's just picking and choosing the effects of causality. Unless you're suggesting that an alternate timeline is created the moment the Orville is saved, so Pria not coming back doesn't mean anything because she came back to the original timeline or something, but even so, it feels like picking and choosing.

Normally I wouldn't mind so much (I watch Doctor Who for crying out loud), but the episode is predicated on time travel mechanics that feel wonky at best. And again, DARK MATTER DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT!

So at NYCC Seth stated that he's confident that Fox will order a second season.

Of course he says that. And of course Fox greenlights season 2 of the Orville while leaving Firefly to rot.

I'm still holding out for a Back 9.

A what?

 

[Zontar]

A what?

A Back 9 is when 9 episodes are ordered for a 13 episode season while it's airing, bringing it up to 22.

 

[Laughing Man]

So, I've caught up with Pria, and...I'm sorry, how does the ending make any sense? They destroy the wormhole so that Pria can't come...except presumably she could still come because the wormhole is destroyed at only one point in time, so any point prior to that time should still allow a valid point of entry into the 25th century. And if that does stop her coming, then shouldn't that mean they died in the dark matter storm (note: dark matter doesn't work like that). But if they died, then they could never live to stop her coming to save them, but if she saved them so they could stop her from saving them, then...

Gah!

Anyway, series has got better over time. It's fun, undemanding fluff. Not great, but still fun.

Grandfather paradox, they stopped the only way the person that saved them from getting to them and being able to save them, however it looks like the show isn't using the singular linear timeline where cause = effect it looks like (at least according to the Captains little interaction with Pria at the end) that they are using the idea that decision causes the formation of multiple parallel universes in which all alternatives are played out. Even then it still ended with the typical head scratcher how does a = b if c changed a usually associated with the Grandfather Paradox.

Theirs also the interesting moral implication of if the Orville was destroyed and she had come up with an alternative that would save the ship but allow it to no longer have an effect on the time line is it right to stop her, especially if as she said their was no intention of hurting the crew, saying that it did get waved away with him placing the blame on her for saving them in the first place.

 

[gsilver]

It's not like we haven't had dick jokes in Star Trek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1n9fS7fcog

 

[Zontar]

So the Union are the Federation and the Krill are the Klingons, I wonder what we'll get for the Romulans, and which species they'll be the cousins of (I'm betting the Mocklans).

 

[Hawki]

So the Union are the Federation and the Krill are the Klingons, I wonder what we'll get for the Romulans, and which species they'll be the cousins of (I'm betting the Mocklans).

The Union's undoubtedly the Federation, but I feel the mochlans have more in common with the klingons. Well, TNG klingons at least. Haven't been able to watch The Orville beyond episode 6, but if I had to draw a comparison to a Star Trek race with the krill at this point in time, while an argument could be made for TOS klingons, but they might have more in common with the nausicans (space pirates and all that).

 

[gsilver]

So the Union are the Federation and the Krill are the Klingons, I wonder what we'll get for the Romulans, and which species they'll be the cousins of (I'm betting the Mocklans).

I watched episode 1 this morning, and if anything, the Krill more reminded me of the Cardassians.

 

[Ravinoff]

Given that definition, having Warship... I'm sorry, "Tactical Cruisers that were only really designed for combat" such as the Prometheus Class [http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Prometheus_class] and the Defiant Class [http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Defiant_class] makes Starfleet the federation's de facto military. They are the ones issued the ships that can fight battles, they are the ones issued the phasers. They are what the Federation has and who the Federation uses when war breaks out.

They can call them whatever they want, but by definition, they are a military branch. But as I've said many times before, and in the last time you quoted me, their actual position in the Starfleet is a hybrid of military peacekeeping exploring diplomats.

The thing is, none of the Trek series (except maybe DS9, which I know next to nothing about) were centred on the military side of Starfleet. The Enterprise was always an explorer that occasionally skirmished with limited hostile forces. The closest I can think of to seeing the Federation at war was Wolf 359, and that was more Pearl Harbor than Midway. You can't really compare Starfleet to any real-world institution, because nothing in the real world would require what the Federation does. Coast Guard isn't a bad comparison, if you combine them with like, NOAA research expeditions.

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

So the Union are the Federation and the Krill are the Klingons, I wonder what we'll get for the Romulans, and which species they'll be the cousins of (I'm betting the Mocklans).

I watched episode 1 this morning, and if anything, the Krill more reminded me of the Cardassians.

I'd say they look like the Jem'Hadar from DS9.

Spoiler: At least in appearance

 

[Fallow]

I'd say it's a great show. I expected Family Guy in space, but I got the Star Trek experience that STD so brutally failed to deliver. As a fan of TOS, I'm equal parts surprised and enthused.

 

[KissingSunlight]

I thought it was an awesome Black Mirror-like episode. We seriously have people who advocate that we should have this type of online mob rule in real life. This episode shows why that would be a horrible idea.

Let's face it. The Orville is the Star Trek series for this generation.

 

[Zontar]

I liked the episode, and not just because it's very easy to see it as a jab against Reddit.

One thing I think we can all agree is good is that the ratings went up by a lot. 24%, to 4.2 million, most the show's had since the change to Thursday night. While we can no longer realistically hold out for a Back 9, it looks more likely by the day that a second season is coming.

Here's hoping for 6 seasons and a movie.

 

[Hawki]

https://screenrant.com/the-orville-season-2-renewal-fox/

All well and good, now they just need to make it actually watchable in Oz (and other countries I guess).