The Police are Ignoring me!

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Jewrean said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
Uh why did you stop? Did you really expect these dick heads to care that they almost killed you? Did you expect any out come aside from getting strangled?

Sure sure, fuck the police and all that just... wow man, wow.
You have no sense of justice. By your logic, if you saw a child being raped or a man being killed on the street, you would do nothing.
My logic is I don't pull my car over to yell at people and not expect to get my ass kicked. I really don't understand how someone could choose to do that and then suddenly be shocked and angry when they get assaulted.

It's like letting your pet python play with your kitten and then being shocked and hurt that the python killed and ate the cat. Like what the fuck do you expect to happen? It's a snake.
 

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Come to Detroit, it's much worse, we can't even get the cops to show up for FUCKING MURDERS. And this happens on a regular basis, the cops just don't bother, or it will take hours to show up, and there are multiple news stories on this daily. The firetrucks don't show up either.
 

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You should totally go murder people, theres no way they'll look into it if they didnt look into those young people being stupid!!
 

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This is why plan on carrying a loaded revolver in my vehicle at all times. The legality of my plan does not outweigh the satisfaction I would have with splattering some random douchebag who tried to attack me's brains across the ground. I'm not entirely sure if it should.


OT: You did kind of provoke them.
 

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Buretsu said:
Jewrean said:
Did you, or either of the two witnesses get a License Plate number, and report that to the police?
Yes. + a photo.

jcb1337 said:
This is why plan on carrying a loaded revolver in my vehicle at all times. The legality of my plan does not outweigh the satisfaction I would have with splattering some random douchebag who tried to attack me's brains across the ground. I'm not entirely sure if it should.


OT: You did kind of provoke them.
Can't own guns in Australia, and yet another person who thinks that justifies their actions.

SnootyEnglishman said:
You should have added in "and they tried shooting at me" or something along that line.
Indeed.

Fluffythepoo said:
You should totally go murder people, theres no way they'll look into it if they didnt look into those young people being stupid!!
I see what you did there. But did you see what I did? It's called exaggeration, and I used it to prove a point (being, where do we draw the line?).

Furioso said:
Come to Detroit, it's much worse, we can't even get the cops to show up for FUCKING MURDERS. And this happens on a regular basis, the cops just don't bother, or it will take hours to show up, and there are multiple news stories on this daily. The firetrucks don't show up either.
My condolences go out to the good people in your city for having to put up with such crap.

SaneAmongInsane said:
My logic is I don't pull my car over to yell at people and not expect to get my ass kicked. I really don't understand how someone could choose to do that and then suddenly be shocked and angry when they get assaulted.

It's like letting your pet python play with your kitten and then being shocked and hurt that the python killed and ate the cat. Like what the fuck do you expect to happen? It's a snake.
Yes, you really do not understand, justice. Although you think your way is logical, you actually just have a very different personality. There is no fact in either side of our arguements. That being said: every human has the right to speak / yell / be angry at others without having to fear violence as retribution. To simply expect it? Well then, I pity the loss of your faith in humanity.

As for your cute kitten / python example, yes that's a nice exaggeration...

EDIT: and for the final time... this post isn't about the crime... it's about being ignored by the police... stop derailing. Regardless of who is at fault, the people who committed the crime are indeed criminals and crossed an OBVIOUS line (obvious to any dimwit on Earth).
 

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Jewrean said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
Uh why did you stop? Did you really expect these dick heads to care that they almost killed you? Did you expect any out come aside from getting strangled?

Sure sure, fuck the police and all that just... wow man, wow.
You have no sense of justice. By your logic, if you saw a child being raped or a man being killed on the street, you would do nothing.

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How low has our society fallen to assume the person who challenges the foolish behaviour of others deserves to be ridiculed? I guess we should all just turn our heads away from crime and just be walked all over by thugs... because that makes more sense... clearly... cowards.
And what? You think you're behaviour was any less foolish? If you're an idiot enough to walk up to a man who just stabbed someone in cold blood, give him a stern talking to, and expect to walk away without being stabbed or at the very least smacked upside the head, you're a fool.

And If that's too preposterous of a analogy, let's look at your own situation. If you're such a brave and courageous individual, why didn't you get out of your vehicle and dispense your own "Justice". Because you valued your safety over teaching a bunch of hoons a lesson.

With that said, I do agree with you that there does appear to be a glaring fault on the police departments end that you should continue to pursue.
 

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tobi the good boy said:
And what? You think you're behaviour was any less foolish? If you're an idiot enough to walks up to a man who just stabbed someone in cold blood, gives him a stern talking to, and expect to walk away without being stabbed or at the very least smacked upside the head, you're a fool.

And If that's too preposterous of a analogy, let's look at your own situation. If you're such a brave and courageous individual, why didn't you get out of your vehicle and dispense your own "Justice". Because you valued your safety over teaching a bunch of hoons a lesson.

With that said, I do agree with you that there does appear to be a glaring fault on the police departments end that you should continue to pursue.
Yet again... ffs... stop derailing. But to answer your trolling accusations:
1) I pulled over and asked them "What the f*** are you doing?!"
2) They stopped beside my car (holding up traffic behind us) and immediately got out of their car before I could even react.

I'm starting to think that you people ARE the hoons in question. Why would you support their behaviour? What is wrong with you people?
 

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Jewrean said:
tobi the good boy said:
And what? You think you're behaviour was any less foolish? If you're an idiot enough to walks up to a man who just stabbed someone in cold blood, gives him a stern talking to, and expect to walk away without being stabbed or at the very least smacked upside the head, you're a fool.

And If that's too preposterous of a analogy, let's look at your own situation. If you're such a brave and courageous individual, why didn't you get out of your vehicle and dispense your own "Justice". Because you valued your safety over teaching a bunch of hoons a lesson.

With that said, I do agree with you that there does appear to be a glaring fault on the police departments end that you should continue to pursue.
Yet again... ffs... stop derailing. But to answer your trolling accusations:
1) I pulled over and asked them "What the f*** are you doing?!"
2) They stopped beside my car (holding up traffic behind us) and immediately got out of their car before I could even react.

I'm starting to think that you people ARE the hoons in question. Why would you support their behaviour? What is wrong with you people?
No one is supporting their behaviour. What they did was a crime and they should be punished as I said in my last sentence and that you should continue to presure the police to have them punished. What we're doing is saying we don't condone YOUR behaviour as well. Instead of provoking them (And by the law, this is what you have done, chances are because you yelled out "What the Fuck are you doing" they could get a lesser sentence with a mitigating circumstance of Provocation) You should have gotten their number plate and model and just gone to the police.

Instead you make it sound like we should all be vigilantes and that if we don't follow your cause to hate people we don't even know we're nothing but cowards.
 

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Jewrean said:
ToTaL LoLiGe said:
It's kind of your own fault that three guys strangled you, you did provoke them. If there's a dick in a car that you just overtook, you don't get out to "yell" at them that's insane. What did you think would happen when you yelled at them? There isn't much the police could do about it, if you had the reg of the car then maybe they could have followed it up. The police shouldn't have completely ignored you when you reported it. They committed two crimes dangerous driving and assault so the police should have done something.
1) I didn't get out.
2) You're advising never to stand up to a bully.
3) I do have the reg, 2 witnesses, and even a photo of the incident thanks to a witness (sorry forgot to mention). Also of course have make and model of their car.
That's laughable.

Bullies are big kids that make fun of you in grade school.
Everyone in the adult world is a potential psychopath.

Stopping on the side of the road to yell at strangers is stupid, nothing can possibly be resolved in that manner. In the future if you meet crazies on the road, decelerate. Don't worry, you still get to call yourself a "man".
 

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My question is this: Did you confront them with your car turned off? Why could you not simply floor it and drive either forwards or backwards at least enough space to stop them from reaching into your car and strangling you? Did they just reach in and choke you with their hands or was it (doubtful, but)more like jumping into the backseat and throwing a rope around your neck Hitman style? What scarred them off and stopped them from furthering the incident? Also, you mentioned you had a picture, any way you could upload it? My curiosity has been peaked about more about the incident than the lack of police dedication. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I know nothing of Australian law. The only bit of advice I could possibly say is learn from it. Notice people acting unusual to ensure preventative measures, instead of hoping for curative ones.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Jewrean said:
2) You're advising never to stand up to a bully.
No, he's really not. He's advising that the scenario you ended up in was your own design and ill-advised.
So... if someone came up to you and punched you square in the face... you would say nothing?
 

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gideonkain said:
Stopping on the side of the road to yell at strangers is stupid, nothing can possibly be resolved in that manner. In the future if you meet crazies on the road, decelerate. Don't worry, you still get to call yourself a "man".
Why do you assume this is testosterone fueled? It's the principal of the thing.
 

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Buretsu said:
Then odds are that the car wasn't owned by any of them (either borrowing it from a parent, or outright joyriding/stolen), and thus their trail went cold. It was, relatively speaking, a minor case of assault, and police aren't going to organize a huge manhunt for these people just so the government can pay for a trial, the results of which will probably be probation for the one person who actually laid hands on you.

Best advice, as shitty as you'll probably think it is...

Just let it go. Sorry, nothing else to do here.
Thank-you! Someone finally posted without being condescending, and they made total sense. However, is it still too much to ask for a phone call from the station?

theswordsmn said:
My question is this: Did you confront them with your car turned off? Why could you not simply floor it and drive either forwards or backwards at least enough space to stop them from reaching into your car and strangling you? Did they just reach in and choke you with their hands or was it (doubtful, but)more like jumping into the backseat and throwing a rope around your neck Hitman style? What scarred them off and stopped them from furthering the incident? Also, you mentioned you had a picture, any way you could upload it? My curiosity has been peaked about more about the incident than the lack of police dedication. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I know nothing of Australian law. The only bit of advice I could possibly say is learn from it. Notice people acting unusual to ensure preventative measures, instead of hoping for curative ones.
My car was still turned on, however, the road was a round-about and I was boxed in with a sign in front of me and traffic behind. The assault itself was only minor and there were no injuries, but that's not the point... it was still the wrong thing to do. They also took my keys out of my ignition and threw them into the grass on the side of the road.

Eventually, with their chests puffed out like a bunch of over sized gorillas, they decided that they had 'won' and got back in their car. I'm not uploading evidence to this website but the photo was just me getting out of my car to retrieve my keys and their car driving off (with their rego visible).

I'm also upset that a lot of you are talking down to me as if I'm a child or stupid for my actions when they were entirely reasonable and happen all the time. The only thing I've learned from this experience is:
- MOST people on forums do not offer 'constructive' advice.
- Unless there is a threat to kill you or harm actually made, cops do not care.
- Faith in humanity -20 points. Ironic, because I just told someone else off for this... I realize slightly hypocritical.
 

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Jewrean said:
Buretsu said:
Then odds are that the car wasn't owned by any of them (either borrowing it from a parent, or outright joyriding/stolen), and thus their trail went cold. It was, relatively speaking, a minor case of assault, and police aren't going to organize a huge manhunt for these people just so the government can pay for a trial, the results of which will probably be probation for the one person who actually laid hands on you.

Best advice, as shitty as you'll probably think it is...

Just let it go. Sorry, nothing else to do here.
Thank-you! Someone finally posted without being condescending, and they made total sense. However, is it still too much to ask for a phone call from the station?
Maybe not, but I'm sure they have actual crimes to solve instead.