"The Post Count causes ELITISM and should be done away with! " Do you agree?
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For someone who claims to do nothing but 'contribute to threads', you do like to reiterate the same points more than once... [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.390540-The-roast-of-Daystar-Clarion?page=3#15700045]gideonkain said:
I don't need to stroke my ego. Other people do it for me.
Because I'm popular.
Therefore elitist.
You're welcome.
Does anyone really take post count seriously? I'm sure there are people like myself that visit almost daily, but tend to lurk. I'll occasionally start typing a reply to something only to self correct myself and reflect 'does anyone really care if I post this?' If the answer is 'probably not', then I'll navigate away from the forum without replying.
This has actually worked against me, on a different forum. I once applied to be a moderator on another site I frequent. I was told I wasn't suitable, as my post count wasn't high enough. It was expected that a post count average of 1 per day was reasonable.
I do look at people's join dates. It's interesting to see someone's join date, versus their post counts.
This has actually worked against me, on a different forum. I once applied to be a moderator on another site I frequent. I was told I wasn't suitable, as my post count wasn't high enough. It was expected that a post count average of 1 per day was reasonable.
I do look at people's join dates. It's interesting to see someone's join date, versus their post counts.
No one gives a fuck about post count any more since the advent of user groups contributing to it and rightly so. Not that is ever was something to care about. Also some of the Old Escapists have cliques because they are old not because of this that should be obvious. These are people that have posted on the forum for years and know each other and talk in user groups. So it is not surprising they are close with in jokes.
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Awesome, when I saw this thread this afternoon I thought "Damn, just my luck for such a thread to be posted while I was asleep, now I'll have to be on page 3...", only to find through your quote I'm at post #5! You interpreted my argument perfectly, to break it down into equation form some people seem to think that "high post count -> popularity" when in fact "posting a lot + being memorable for whatever reason -> popularity (or notoriety) + high post count". Let's not mix up correlation and causation.tippy2k2 said:
Nothing much more to add than I am JoJo and I endorse this post
I didn't think some of the popular people had THAT high of a post count compared to some others.
It's mostly about how they are seen around the forums. The Sims 3 forums doesn't have post counts and the exact same thing happens. Mostly because of how active some people are.
Blaming the post count is a bit pointless in this case.
It's mostly about how they are seen around the forums. The Sims 3 forums doesn't have post counts and the exact same thing happens. Mostly because of how active some people are.
Blaming the post count is a bit pointless in this case.
This is how I use the post count.
'Hey I don't recognise that username/avatar!'
Glance at post count.
If it's low, that's why I don't recognise them. They haven't posted a lot, and thus I haven't seen them. If it's high, and with a recent join date, it's probably a username I don't have in memory who's changed avatar. If it's high with a long-ago join date, it's one of the older members of the community who doesn't post all that much.
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Anyway, I don't think the post counts make people feel excluded - those with higher post-counts don't exclusively talk to other people of similar counts (though there are obvious friendships you can see around the place).
If you want to quote someone it isn't all that tricky and shouldn't be intimidating - most people on here are friendly enough (or interested in debating enough) that they'll reply back.
Equally however, if you don't like the conversations a couple of posters have in the forums, use that ignore tool (the one on the site, or the one in your head)!
'Hey I don't recognise that username/avatar!'
Glance at post count.
If it's low, that's why I don't recognise them. They haven't posted a lot, and thus I haven't seen them. If it's high, and with a recent join date, it's probably a username I don't have in memory who's changed avatar. If it's high with a long-ago join date, it's one of the older members of the community who doesn't post all that much.
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Anyway, I don't think the post counts make people feel excluded - those with higher post-counts don't exclusively talk to other people of similar counts (though there are obvious friendships you can see around the place).
If you want to quote someone it isn't all that tricky and shouldn't be intimidating - most people on here are friendly enough (or interested in debating enough) that they'll reply back.
Equally however, if you don't like the conversations a couple of posters have in the forums, use that ignore tool (the one on the site, or the one in your head)!
I don't agree. When I see someone who has an enormous post count then at best they stick in my mind because they're often popping up in threads. When I see someone who has significantly more posts than myself who has been around the same amount of time, if I assume anything is that they don't often contribute meaningfully to a discussion. If I see someone with a huge post count (above say 20 per day they've been members) I assume both that they do not often contribute meaningfully, and that they have some sort of severe life problem that causes them to dedicate much of their time to this board.
High post counts are not likely to engender any sort of respect in my cases - it is quite the opposite. Also, it is perfectly possible to have a very high post count and be relatively unknown. My post count for example is higher than most but because it was built over a long period, I remain relatively unknown through most of the board.
High post counts are not likely to engender any sort of respect in my cases - it is quite the opposite. Also, it is perfectly possible to have a very high post count and be relatively unknown. My post count for example is higher than most but because it was built over a long period, I remain relatively unknown through most of the board.
I don't really care about post counts, but I have to admit that those with higher post counts feel a bit more like members of the community. But that's probably because they are more like members of the community. Because they're more active.
Still, I guess I'd get a pretty good deal out of it if they remove it but keep the "joined" date. Been a member since 2009, yet I don't even have 20 posts.
Still, I guess I'd get a pretty good deal out of it if they remove it but keep the "joined" date. Been a member since 2009, yet I don't even have 20 posts.
I've seen it and been a part of it... kind of. It wasn't because of having a high post count though, it was because of the attitude of the new user.
If someone signs up to this site and decides that the first thing they're going to do is make a thread on either a controversial topic (taking a side and degrading the opposing view) or just making a thread singling out a group of people and talking down to/about them. While these people have a right to their opinion, it feels like they have no interest in being part of the community and are just trying to make people angry.
The post count/start date itself doesn't really have much to do with the opinion of the user, it just helps identify if the person has just joined to mess with people.
...... Hmmm, on second thought this doesn't sound much like elitism but it's the only time I've seen a post count color people's opinion of someone.
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*looks at post count*
*reads post again*
*looks at start date*
.......You win.
If someone signs up to this site and decides that the first thing they're going to do is make a thread on either a controversial topic (taking a side and degrading the opposing view) or just making a thread singling out a group of people and talking down to/about them. While these people have a right to their opinion, it feels like they have no interest in being part of the community and are just trying to make people angry.
The post count/start date itself doesn't really have much to do with the opinion of the user, it just helps identify if the person has just joined to mess with people.
...... Hmmm, on second thought this doesn't sound much like elitism but it's the only time I've seen a post count color people's opinion of someone.
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*reads post*IJW said:
*looks at post count*
*reads post again*
*looks at start date*
.......You win.
if reputation is linked to post count then i believe the kudos system from the nexus forums might be a lot more efficient.
basically you give kudos as a sort of thumbs up to members that have either helped you or you like.
post count seems rather irrelevant to me, for the most part i am amazed at how much time someone has spent posting when digits seem to go on forever
basically you give kudos as a sort of thumbs up to members that have either helped you or you like.
post count seems rather irrelevant to me, for the most part i am amazed at how much time someone has spent posting when digits seem to go on forever
post count is helpful for knowing if people are advertising for the sake of advertising or if they're doing it by mistake.
If a person had a 3 post count and they're advertising something then you know that it's completely intentional.
If a person had a 3 post count and they're advertising something then you know that it's completely intentional.
I momentarily time warped back to the third grade. It wasn't personal. I hang my head in shame.newfoundsky said:Owch.Copper Zen said:
Eh even they did away with post count I'd have no strong feelings one way or the other. Shows how active you are sure but they're just numbers in the end so who cares? Most of it comes from group chats and game forum anyways so it's not like it matters.
I was quite happy when I broke 1k (almost 2k) now just so say I did. Reminds me that this is my favorite forum.
I don't see the elitism thing though... forum celebrities get their fame for just being cool people and being well known not because they have 20k posts.
edit: I will say though that some new members seem to come to this site with the intention of posting as MUCH as possible to up the count and get known. A certain user who is now banned comes to mind. Came in only a few months ago and already had a 2k+ post count for... being controversial and posting a billion times in one topic? *shrug*
I was quite happy when I broke 1k (almost 2k) now just so say I did. Reminds me that this is my favorite forum.
I don't see the elitism thing though... forum celebrities get their fame for just being cool people and being well known not because they have 20k posts.
edit: I will say though that some new members seem to come to this site with the intention of posting as MUCH as possible to up the count and get known. A certain user who is now banned comes to mind. Came in only a few months ago and already had a 2k+ post count for... being controversial and posting a billion times in one topic? *shrug*
Put simply, it's a load of bollocks. So what if Daystar or Fappy post a lot? If you think it's a really an issue with a select few posting most of the things how about YOU post MORE instead of whining? Exercise a stiff upper lip you smelly, possibly French, peasants. I haven't created a single topic during my time here, it's not because I'm scared our Grand Lord Daystar will feed me to his younglings if he disapproves. It's because I haven't thought of anything I personally deem thread worthy. I don't post much because 8 times out of 10 I just brain vomit all over the comment box or have no strong opinion on the topic at hand.
At the end of the day it's just a sodding number.
At the end of the day it's just a sodding number.
...Well played. Well played, indeed.Thistlehart said:
It must still be a miserable existence, though, if you have such a gilded life and can still devote time to getting upset over trivial things rather than buying ponies or whatever it is the wealthy do with their disposable income.