The Real Reasons You Shouldn't like Twilight

[Ace of Spades]

Wow, I thought that we had finally gotten over the whole "Twilight is corrupting the female youth" outcry. In the same way that video games don't cause young boys to become serial murderers, Twilight does not cause young girls to become overly passive domestic abuse victims. Anyone who reads Twilight and is emotionally affected by it to the extent of emulating the characters directly, they were already pretty messed up to begin with. Can we as a society just forget about Twilight and move on? I seriously think that the hatred has gotten out of hand.

 

[Diceman]

I hate it for all of the above. They are terribly written books with an even worse message. Period.

Yup, I'm fairly certain we can all hate it because of those 'real' reasons AND because it's terrible.

 

[Sir_Auron_the_Badass]

While I don't really care if vampires and/or werewolves are put into a major/sub plot, I do hate that Meyer completely took away what makes these monsters cool in order to make them into pansy-ass pretty boys that tween girls idolize. Meyer could've given them a feral nature but with a heart of gold to keep them cool while actually making the relationships more than one-dimensional, but of course, she ruined that.

I also really hate the negative messages the series gives to girls; they're incredibly unrealistic, but made to seem real, with some of them actually being very detrimental to their lives.

 

[Flig]

Her writing style bothers the hell out of me, and yeah this will make me a grammer nazi, but my god, has she ever heard of a semi colon?!

Anyways, I don't like how Belle is perfectly fine having a stalker boyfriend or whatever he is to her, and how she obsesses over him. And all the characters are extremely shallow to where I can't seem to give a shit what happens to them. I tried reading the series but the furthest I got was the middle of the second book.

I agree with your post, however, as for the semi-colon comment I must respectfully disagree. I really don't think the semi-colon has much use, as a comma is perfectly acceptable as a replacement. As Kurt Vonnegut said, "The semi-colon is the tranvestite hermaphrodite of the English language. All it shows is that you've gone to college." Or something like that.




Anyway more on-topic (Disclaimer: the only exposure I have to the series is being dragged to an Eclipse showing, so this is all based off of that experiance), the only thing I find truly disturbing thing about the series is it's portrayl of Bella as a submissive female perfectly comfortable with having an obsessive stalker and a dominaring musclehead fight over her while she sits there and does nothing of import, except maybe cutting herself. That was the most heroic thing I've seen her do. Cut herself. Also, I found it weird that I was the only one in the theatre who found it odd when, near the beginning of the film, Edward broke Bella's car so she couldn't leave her house, and Bella didn't have all that much of a problem with it. Sure she was upset, but it was because Edward didn't trust her with Jacob, not because he had just effectively imprisoned her. Even the girl I was there with said it was "romantic" when I brought it up after the movie. So I put sugar in her gas tank the next day.

I kid, I kid.

 

[Raven_Operative]

You can be literally smothered by her adjectives.

This!

oh god... somehow, I actually managed to read the entire Twilight series without dieing from the torture, but this basically sums up my frustration. Seriously, I don't need 4 paragraphs to describe how "Perfect" Edward looks... I wouldn't mind it, if it was all spread out, but she dumps it on you all at once. Its like trying to drink from a fire hose,... you get far, FAR more than you want.

Also, I hated the ending... they hyped up this enormous battle involving about a hundred Vamps for half the book, and I was actually interested about what was going to happen, but then when its finally time for this epic confrontation, ll the hype goes straight out the window, and they spend the last 20 pages of the book talking, and eventually sort the whole thing out with a diplomatic solution...

Ugh... (I have much hate inside now...)

 

[CorruptCor3]

also, all those reasons not to hate it are true

 

[Sjakie]

my reason for being against twilight:

As a fan you would have to sit in a dark room with lots and lots of young, underage teenage girls to see the movie...

...people might start calling me a pervert.

and it's badly written, emo stuff that makes my skin scrawl! and i think that counts as a perfectly valid reason to hate it.

 

[DarkRyter]

It also blatantly plagiarizes the Shoujo manga Karin, known in America as Chibi Vampire.

 

[Haydyn]

One of the main reasons I hate it is because it is softcore porn for tween girls. Picture what Twilight would be like with the roles reversed. An adolescent boy can't make up his mind between which female fantasy character he wants to bone. They fight over him while constantly being under dressed. Instead of Edward stocking Bella in a creepy romantic gesture, you'd have Edwina being easy in a creepy romantic gesture. Then you'd have Jackie running around in a bra half the movie. Then you just add in the male equivalent to romantic tension, explosions. At least in my mind, they both sound like movies that are desperately trying to do something inside the pants of pre teens.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to find a Suckerpunch Trailer.

 

[Limettycat]

I dislike the series only because it messes the shit out of the vampire mythology/lore.
I'm a fan of the Vampire: The masquarade series, and anything that involves vampires glittering in sunshine makes my eyes bleed.

 

[MasterChief892039]

I don't hate the movie its just not targeted at me, so why hate something thats not targeted at you.

It is targeted at me. I am a teenage female, and personally I'm disturbed that there is a part of society that thinks that as a teenage female the messages of Twilight should appeal to me.

I realize that it appeals to others in my demographic, and I realize they have the right to consume whatever media they wish. That doesn't mean I'm going to support it.

I don't understand this "Twilight is creating a generation of women who submit to abuse" sentiment. No, no it's not, in the same way that Bulletstorm isn't going to cause mass murders.

It's not going to turn young women into abuse victims, but that doesn't mean it's something they should be exposed to either.

Is Call of Duty going to turn your 13-year-old into a gun wielding killer? No. Is it a good parental decision to prevent your kid from playing that game until they're older? Yes.

 

[Darth Crater]

I freely admit to joking about sparkly vampires, etc. without having read the books, but it's true that it gets a bit creepy when you think about it.

Also, it's worse than Luminosity: http://luminous.elcenia.com/story.shtml

 

[Palademon]

I don't care about any of your reasons why I should hate it. It's badly written drek, and that alone is more than enough reason to hate it.

My aunt actually got me a shitload of the books for my birthday last year, because apparently it's illegal for young women to not own them. I'd already read the first one and it made me physically ill, and since my aunt is the kind of person that doesn't hold onto receipts so I couldn't return them, I've been using pages as kindling when we have cookouts and barbeques.

Hmm.

I guess that means that Edward is finally...

*glasses*

...lighting my fire.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

After spending a few minutes pondering on this post, trying to think of something to add without it turning into a quote where I mention how much the post was awesome, and without once again me quoting something, simply with the phrase "marry me", I came up with nothing more, so I'll just say fuck yeah.

I also required advice from a friend to test the sanity of explaining that in a statement on the internet. He gave it a 4/10, so I'm good.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Why is it being a badly written piece of garbage not a reason to hate it? I despise Poe and Shelley for being terrible, terrible pieces of literature, and I would similarly despise anything that promotes as much mediocrity and passes itself off as literature to the next generation. Where the proceeds from the book go are not reasons to hate something, no matter your political tendencies, as long as the organization is directly harming anyone. Authors taking liberties with lore is how fiction happens, friend, and had she done it with above mediocre quality and protagonists actually worth caring about that develop well over the course of their adventures without a predictable-as-dirt storyline, we would have accepted some of her reorganizing of the lore, as we have accepted various other variations.

 

[Monkfish Acc.]

Reason to Hate Twilight
-10% of the income from the franchise goes to the Mormon church which can then go towards anti-gay political campaigns
-Twilight promotes manipulative and/or abusive relationships
-Stephenie Meyer created fake legends about a real Native American community, the Quileute, who are now harassed by Twilight fans
-The plot suggests that women should forgo post-secondary education in order to get married and pregnant if they want to prove their love for their boyfriends/husbands

Thank you for stating the obvious.
You know, except for that first bit. That was kind of grasping. Like saying you should hate another book for donating to Christianity which is bad because them jesus lovers sure hate the gays.

Seriously, you don't even need to have read the books to know this by now. People never shut up about it.
And you know what? Twilight is supplying demand. A lot of young girls WANT to be in a dramatic relationship where they are dominated. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but teens fucking love melodrama.

Sure, if it happened for real they'd be miserable, but as long as they are pretending it seems an excellent way to get their rocks off and garner attention from everybody. Meyer isn't writing a Mary Sue. Or, well, she is, but she's not ONLY writing a Mary Sue. She's writing a wish fulfilment character for the audience. The girls who like it aren't being manipulated or controlled or anything. Nobody is fucking poisoning them. They like it because it's what they want.

Most girls want to have found their twoo wuv before they've even reached college. They want to not have to finish school and to live their lives wrapped in his strong yet vaguely feminine arms. Strong women who want to make their own future tend to be pretty rare among young adolescents, they're pretty much lazy children with sex drives.
I mean, seriously, expecting an intelligent and mature teenage girl who is not just fucking pretending is like expecting an intelligent and mature teenage boy. It doesn't usually happen. They are thinking with their genitals and that small, mostly rotted section of the brain you stopped thinking with when you were four.

That third point is still perfectly valid, though, bastardising a culture because you cannot be fucked to research is kind of a dick move.

 

[LadyRhian]

I'm a writer and I have a blog where I discuss the plots of the books I have read and why I liked or didn't like them. Trust me when I say that something being badly written is a perfectly fine reason to dislike a book. Although I have had two readers disagree with my comments on a particular work (Ever After by Alyson Noël). I read it, I gave my reasons for disliking it (main female character is too passive, it's not clear whether the male hero wants her for her or because she is the reincarnation of a woman he has loved and lost many times before and the disparity between them is so wide that he craps diamonds and gold and farts expensive french perfume while she is pretty schlubly) and explained that this was why I disliked it. Not one big reason, but lots of little ones, and its as if I stabbed these people in the heart. Apparently, I am "insulting" everyone who liked the book by not liking the book and that I have to read the second book in the series.

WTF? If I disliked book 1, I am hardly going to pick up any further books in the series. And how does my not liking it ruin your liking it? I have a feeling these are young teen girls making those comments.

Back to the OT, I read three books of the Twilight series, and I found them only okay. Badly written, and the scene where Edward breaks into her house and her bedroom to watch Bella sleep really squicked me out. It was creepy and stalkerish and not in any way sexy or romantic at all. So it being badly written is only one reason to dislike the series, but it's still a good reason. Let's hear it for well-written books!

 

[RedMagic]

I think disliking a book on the basis of bad writing is valid reason. It's very similar to people who dislike movies with bad acting, or game reviews written badly for the sake of spite and attention. It's all about having standards. No one wants to be mislead into thinking that what their reading is going to be legendary, and then finding out later on that you just got suckered into something unlike what you wanted.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Her writing style bothers the hell out of me, and yeah this will make me a grammer nazi, but my god, has she ever heard of a semi colon?!

Anyways, I don't like how Belle is perfectly fine having a stalker boyfriend or whatever he is to her, and how she obsesses over him. And all the characters are extremely shallow to where I can't seem to give a shit what happens to them. I tried reading the series but the furthest I got was the middle of the second book.

I agree with your post, however, as for the semi-colon comment I must respectfully disagree. I really don't think the semi-colon has much use, as a comma is perfectly acceptable as a replacement. As Kurt Vonnegut said, "The semi-colon is the tranvestite hermaphrodite of the English language. All it shows is that you've gone to college." Or something like that.

I'm not saying she should use it all the time otherwise it shows she's trying waaaay too hard at writing. I'd be happy if she used a coma, but I'm being to think she has a thing with the period with how much she uses it.

 

[Flig]

I'm not saying she should use it all the time otherwise it shows she's trying waaaay too hard at writing. I'd be happy if she used a coma, but I'm being to think she has a thing with the period with how much she uses it.

I'm really tempted to make a menopause joke here.