the REAL way to make a silent kill

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Lt_Bromhead said:
My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...
Oddly enough, I was about the same ago (9 or 10) when my dad told me how to instantly kill somebody... Basically, what the OP said, a knife through that little spinal nubbin at the base of the neck. I know I was 9 or 10 at the time because he told me this while we were watching Executive Decision. Somethings just stick with you, I guess. Thanks, Dad.

After spending a few years in the army, I've never been able to confirm this...
 

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EdwardOrchard said:
Lt_Bromhead said:
My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...
Oddly enough, I was about the same ago (9 or 10) when my dad told me how to instantly kill somebody... Basically, what the OP said, a knife through that little spinal nubbin at the base of the neck. I know I was 9 or 10 at the time because he told me this while we were watching Executive Decision. Somethings just stick with you, I guess. Thanks, Dad.

After spending a few years in the army, I've never been able to confirm this...

It's amazing how these sorts of things are actually hard to prove wrong, even without evidence to prove them correct... :p
 

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Twist their neck really fast to the side, snap their brain stem. Then the body is even made easy to thief style hide if nesecary due to no blood (pulling their shoulders in the other direction will help to) This is the real silent kill
 

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Muffling the victim until he bleeds out (which does not take long with the jugular cut, I'm certain)will result in, if not utterly silent, at least a kill you won't be able to hear if there's moderate background noise. Also, the windpipe below the larynx would be severed, so all you'd hear would be gasping and gurgling. Once again, not quiet as a mouse but you're not gonna hear it if you aren't in the same room.
 

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Twist their neck really fast to the side, snap their brain stem. Then the body is even made easy to thief style hide if nesecary due to no blood (pulling their shoulders in the other direction will help to) This is the real silent kill
I assume you've practiced this technique and can name the instructor who taught it to you?
 

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You sneak up behind them, silently, and crouch in the dark. Taking out your pen, you scrawl their name in the Death Note.


Silent takedown.
 

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Nieroshai said:
Muffling the victim until he bleeds out (which does not take long with the jugular cut, I'm certain)will result in, if not utterly silent, at least a kill you won't be able to hear if there's moderate background noise. Also, the windpipe below the larynx would be severed, so all you'd hear would be gasping and gurgling. Once again, not quiet as a mouse but you're not gonna hear it if you aren't in the same room.
It takes a while.

See video:

Graphic content warning, obviously.

Incredibly graphic video removed, sorry chaps~ Mod edit
 

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archont said:
You are correct, OP.

Reference material:
Warning: violent subject matter.
http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/dagestan-massacre-1999-video-worst-beheading/

[small]Note to mods: this isn't intended as a shock site, a warning about graphic content was provided.[/small]

All in all I don't recommend learning those techniques from games.

The perfect knife for performing this technique would be something like the Cold Steel AK-47. However I still would choose the versatility of a longer knife for overt use.
OK, i just read the descriptions and i have to say yes, that is horrible and not silent at all...
 

Harrowdown

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So you've just proven to a bunch of strangers that you know how to kill someone. Congratulations?
 

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kman123 said:
Lt_Bromhead said:
kman123 said:
Lt_Bromhead said:
My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...
You must have had the BEST bedtime stories.

Hahah, his favourite stories were always ones involving army intel cock-ups, funnily enough. So they were almost alway amusing. :D

Remind me to tell you some of his Ireland stories sometime... :p
Oh I'm friending you right now man.
Hahah - sounds good. :D
 

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archont said:
Comando96 said:
...if your fast you can breat their spine... by twisting their neck to a 120 Degree angle, which would do the same as the knife to the back of the skull... but without the need for a knife.
Have you actually practiced the technique you're describing or are you pulling it out of your arse?

If the former who was your instructor.
Not me personally but my father has... killing someone...

Quick way of dispatching known IRA members without everyone in the Pub knowing. It additionally means the body can be tucked away in a cubical for a while before found and then questions being raised.

Take a punt at the regiment my dad was in xD

Impluse_101 said:
Lt_Bromhead said:
My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...
Did he regularly do that when you were 10?
Dunno about his dad but you'll be surprised how often a drunk ex-military man will go into the people they have killed with more personal involvement than shooting someone at distance.
Its quite possible Lt_Bromhead's (Lt, Lieutenant essence of the military hang over) dad talked about what he did when in the armed forces.

You'd be surprised about how human a person normally is... and then when an ex-forces person remembers...
Hopefully yours isn't a drunk and was telling stories xD
 

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Twist their neck really fast to the side, snap their brain stem. Then the body is even made easy to thief style hide if nesecary due to no blood (pulling their shoulders in the other direction will help to) This is the real silent kill
There is no "silent" kill, bones make noise when they break, but having a broken neck is often a pretty big barrier to screaming. assuming you can get a good grip on him and yank all the way before he screams.
Nieroshai said:
Muffling the victim until he bleeds out (which does not take long with the jugular cut, I'm certain)will result in, if not utterly silent, at least a kill you won't be able to hear if there's moderate background noise. Also, the windpipe below the larynx would be severed, so all you'd hear would be gasping and gurgling. Once again, not quiet as a mouse but you're not gonna hear it if you aren't in the same room.
I don't know, too many variables. Probably less than a minute, but it would take longer than you think, especially if you only cut one jugular. What you really want to aim for is the carotid, since that pumps blood to the brain, and cutting it drops blood pressure in the brain which can cause a person to pass out. They also bleed out faster. The Artery under the arm is actually supposed to be a faster bleed-out than even a carotid cut(something rediculous like 18 seconds is what I heard), it's one of the most popular methods for butchering pigs because it's the fastest.
 

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Harrowdown said:
So you've just proven to a bunch of strangers that you know how to kill someone. Congratulations?
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

In this thread we're discussing the methodology and practical aspects, not measuring dicks. I don't see what you're trying to achieve with your comment.
 

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archont said:
Nieroshai said:
Muffling the victim until he bleeds out (which does not take long with the jugular cut, I'm certain)will result in, if not utterly silent, at least a kill you won't be able to hear if there's moderate background noise. Also, the windpipe below the larynx would be severed, so all you'd hear would be gasping and gurgling. Once again, not quiet as a mouse but you're not gonna hear it if you aren't in the same room.
It takes a while.

See video:
http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/dagestan-massacre-1999-video-worst-beheading/
...good point. Regardless, without the ability to scream it would be very difficult to hear it from far away. Very messy and hard to hide though.
Not the best technique, granted. But circumstantially, it can work if all you have is a sharp (but not pointy) object like glass or a razor blade, and have the target in a secluded area.
 

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spartan231490 said:
I don't know, too many variables. Probably less than a minute, but it would take longer than you think, especially if you only cut one jugular. What you really want to aim for is the carotid, since that pumps blood to the brain, and cutting it drops blood pressure in the brain which can cause a person to pass out. They also bleed out faster. The Artery under the arm is actually supposed to be a faster bleed-out than even a carotid cut(something rediculous like 18 seconds is what I heard), it's one of the most popular methods for butchering pigs because it's the fastest.
True but landing a hit there is nigh-impossible. The area is obscured by loose clothing and hands are naturally down, not up.

Another technique is going for the subclavian artery/vein in the shoulder. Supposedly 5 seconds or less until the opponent is unconscious, 10 until death. Depends on whether the cut is smooth or jagged and if the artery is transected partially or wholly though.
 

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MacLeRoy said:
ive only four words for you: alone, gun with silencer. Did i win?
What gun exactly?

Edit: Matter of fact what ammo?

Edit2: And which brand of suppressor?
 

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From behind with a knife your best bet would be to simultaneously cover their mout while stabbing the in the neck about halfway back and push the knife forward your hitting the carotid and jugular as well as severing their wind pipe they become unconscious almost immediately due to the drop in blood pressure and will bleed out in 10-15 seconds even if the remained conscious they can't screan become you've cut their wind pipe and have their mouth covered, then you lower them to the ground, snapping someones neck is iffy depending on hieght and positioning it can be trick to get the leverage you need to actually break the neck. Most