the REAL way to make a silent kill

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Wolf-AUS

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Lt_Bromhead said:
My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...
Your dad was telling you the truth, this is how it's done. At least that's the consensus from all the commandos I've spoken to when they aren't doing fancy suit or trying for firsts
 

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Jakub324 said:
My dad was in the Paras and he said the same thing. Video games can be so misleading, but at least they aren't "teaching kids to kill", right?
Not teaching them very well at least.
It can be a bit obnoxious as a gun nut to listen to COD fans talk like they know fuckall about anything gun-related, though.

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otakon17 said:
What about a trench spike through the skull or temple?
or a railway spike... though that might not do anything except change your entire personality...
A Phineas Gauge reference in my murder thread? It's more likely than I thought.

The spine is usually easier for me, rather than throat slitting. It's not the noise, more the blood splattered everywhere. I don't like getting that on my clothes. A lot of people prefer the traditional twisting-head neck snapping action but I usually stick with grabbing them by the hair and shoving a boot into the small of their back as hard as I can. It?s a personal preference really. But other than a very brief struggle and, of course, the crack, it's pretty quiet.
 

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The Virgo said:
Not questioning you or anything, but how do you know so much about killing people? O_e
I play a lot of Counterstrike and Call of Duty. That makes me an expert.
 

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Numb1lp said:
Lt_Bromhead said:
My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...
Your dad told you this when you were ten... F*cking rad!
Yeah, he never was one for "age limited material" :p

Wolf-AUS said:
Lt_Bromhead said:
My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.

He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...
Your dad was telling you the truth, this is how it's done. At least that's the consensus from all the commandos I've spoken to when they aren't doing fancy suit or trying for firsts

When they're not doing...what, sorry? You've confused me... :)
 

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The bone at the base of the eye socket is thin enough for a dagger-like combat knife (eg. Fairbairn-Sykes) to penetrate. It's hard to attack the eyes however as you can expect your opponent to recoil. Protecting the eyes/front of face is a natural first instinct and I see no way it could be a practical technique unless your intention is to tape and release it. In which case you're one sick puppy.
True, but in the context of the 'silent kill' the victim wouldn't see it coming (no pun intended) being covert and such, so any defence against it would be too late until they have a piece of steel through their head. Also, subsequent clean up would be simpler (well, at least more so than throat slitting, which one would think causes quite a mess...) *shrug*

(And when you said 'tape and release it' I was thinking, 'duct-tape? release what?!' and then the penny dropped... I'm a sadist, it's got to last!) =P
 
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Eddo36 said:
No, if you want a silent kill, you gotta put your blade at the indent at the base of your enemy's skull (bone is thin there) and slam upward at a 45-degree angle. You'll scramble his medulla oblongata and the motor senses are cut off immediately.

I think they did that in one of the later CoD games, like Black Ops.
Very difficult to do properly, the better way is to grasp the opponent's mouth, pull his head back and insert the knife upwards into his ribcage. You're going to hit lungs and heart almost certainly and without air, he can't yell.

Might be more difficult on women, but the principle's the same.
 

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Tax_Document said:
Huh? Slicing the jugular is one of the most efficient types of killing available, just clamp your hand over their mouth to muffle the gurglin' and off you pop to another slaughter.
This isn't Hollywood, you still haveto endure a couple minutes of intense flailing before he goes down.
Causing enough brain damage on the other hand will simply make him collapse like a muppet.
 

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Eddo36 said:
I've read some of Marine Mike Reviews here, and thought to add one of my own like his.

There is a myth going on about slitting somebody's throat with a knife is a silent kill. It is anything but silent. The enemy will gurgle and thrash around until his brains run out of oxygen, creating a lot of noise in the process.

No, if you want a silent kill, you gotta put your blade at the indent at the base of your enemy's skull (bone is thin there) and slam upward at a 45-degree angle. You'll scramble his medulla oblongata and the motor senses are cut off immediately.

I think they did that in one of the later CoD games, like Black Ops.
Yeah, but at least it's not as loud as a gun, a gun you can hear hundreds of metres away and the entire base gets alerted to that very loud and distinctive sound.

Distant faint gurgling noise and some thumping and russling? That doesn't carry far and even if it does it isn't instantly alarming.

OK, you may not be able to kill someone RIGHT BEHIND another, but the idea is a skulking around along a line of defence you can mullar some dudes in a foxhole without the next foxhole noticing and tossing a grenade over.

I can see why most go for the throat, as it is an incredibly sensitive point that you do not need to apply much force to. If you are off by and inch well you get the jugular instead of the wind pipe, still a good hit.

The base of the skull is thinnER that but still very thick, you have to stab REALLY FUCKING HARD to break through the skull, and the knife would have to be very long, narrow and thin yet strong with a point designed for chipping through hard substances. I'd say you can only reliably do that if;
(1) you train so vigorously on this to the point of neglecting more important soldiers studies (marksmanship/endurance)
(2) a special device was used instead like a captive bolt pistol to punch through the skull

I think it is telling that no butchers ever try to slaughter animals by stabbing through the skull of even lightly built animals like lambs, and they are EXPERTS at quick, efficient and quite killing. They use a bolt-gun or electrodes, but they always depend on the twin exsanguination and suffocation of a sliced throat to make sure they are 100% dead... you do NOT want them waking up when you start preparing their carcass for butchering.

I did hear the SAS used very powerful tazers for silent takedowns, applied to the base of the skull across their spinal cord it fucks them up terribly, and quietly.
 

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Congratulations, you can murder people if they don't see you there....

now what?... THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT MUFFINS!!! (if it still lives after this post)

I like chocolate chip muffins, nice and crumbly =)
 

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Harlief said:
Eddo36 said:
I've read some of Marine Mike Reviews here, and thought to add one of my own like his.

There is a myth going on about slitting somebody's throat with a knife is a silent kill. It is anything but silent. The enemy will gurgle and thrash around until his brains run out of oxygen, creating a lot of noise in the process.

No, if you want a silent kill, you gotta put your blade at the indent at the base of your enemy's skull (bone is thin there) and slam upward at a 45-degree angle. You'll scramble his medulla oblongata and the motor senses are cut off immediately.

I think they did that in one of the later CoD games, like Black Ops.
This is why people blame video games on mass murders.
Mass murders cause video games? Holy shit!

Well, actually, they kinda do... I mean, some insensitive clod made a Colombine game, and didn't some other clod make one about the Oslo gunman too, or was that just a rumor....?
 

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Harlief said:
Eddo36 said:
I've read some of Marine Mike Reviews here, and thought to add one of my own like his.

There is a myth going on about slitting somebody's throat with a knife is a silent kill. It is anything but silent. The enemy will gurgle and thrash around until his brains run out of oxygen, creating a lot of noise in the process.

No, if you want a silent kill, you gotta put your blade at the indent at the base of your enemy's skull (bone is thin there) and slam upward at a 45-degree angle. You'll scramble his medulla oblongata and the motor senses are cut off immediately.

I think they did that in one of the later CoD games, like Black Ops.
This is why people blame video games on mass murders.
Uhhh, did he not just say "Marine Mike reviews", that is a user on this forum.

It is the US Government who taught that and didn't feel the need to impress that it was a secret technique not to be repeated.

Most games follow the queue of movies with stab/slice to throat to silently kill.
 

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Griffolion's guide to a silent kill:

1) Eat hot chilli / Nando's
2) Gas
3) ????
4) Profit
 

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I'm no expert, but I thought the idea was to creep up, before sawing through the throat as hard and fast as you can.
 

Taham

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Uhhh... seeing as you said "silent kill", it doesn't mean with just a knife, or if the bloke on the recieving end's friends are physically close, or on a radio or something.
I mean, if they were just on a radio, then you could crush their skull with a hammer, which would probably stop them grabbing any communication device.

And for those people who will doubtless scream "use your common sense on the situation", then I shall stick with my previous post.