the REAL way to make a silent kill

[Harlief]

I've read some of Marine Mike Reviews here, and thought to add one of my own like his.

There is a myth going on about slitting somebody's throat with a knife is a silent kill. It is anything but silent. The enemy will gurgle and thrash around until his brains run out of oxygen, creating a lot of noise in the process.

No, if you want a silent kill, you gotta put your blade at the indent at the base of your enemy's skull (bone is thin there) and slam upward at a 45-degree angle. You'll scramble his medulla oblongata and the motor senses are cut off immediately.

I think they did that in one of the later CoD games, like Black Ops.

This is why people blame video games on mass murders.

Mass murders cause video games? Holy shit!

Well, actually, they kinda do... I mean, some insensitive clod made a Colombine game, and didn't some other clod make one about the Oslo gunman too, or was that just a rumor....?

Haha, well spotted! I can't believe I muddled up my message that much... having said that, there are a lot of WWII games out there.

Uhhh, did he not just say "Marine Mike reviews", that is a user on this forum.

It is the US Government who taught that and didn't feel the need to impress that it was a secret technique not to be repeated.

Most games follow the queue of movies with stab/slice to throat to silently kill.

Yeah, I was a little confused as to why we'd need to know how to kill someone silently and that the post overlooks the whole ethical issue of showing *ahem* "efficient" techniques of murder.

 

[sms_117b]

Or you could drop a drop of Hydroflouric (HF) on the top of someones skull, it burns the nerves faster than they can transmit the pain, will eventually burn through the brain killing in a very silent fasion.

 

[MordinSolus]

And the point of this thread is....?

Same as those Marine Mike Reviews? Clearing myth.

Are you sure you're not trying to train an army of knife-wielding serial killers? For example, V for Vendetta.

 

[StBishop]

...if your fast you can breat their spine... by twisting their neck to a 120 Degree angle, which would do the same as the knife to the back of the skull... but without the need for a knife.

Have you actually practiced the technique you're describing or are you pulling it out of your arse?

If the former who was your instructor.

It is possible. My source is a retired SAS hand to hand combat instructor for both Australian and GB SAS at different times.

Twist their neck really fast to the side, snap their brain stem. Then the body is even made easy to thief style hide if nesecary due to no blood (pulling their shoulders in the other direction will help to) This is the real silent kill

Not quite. You can't simply twist it "to the side" you need to go beyond how far they'd normally be able to turn to cause any real damage, and the speed is more about increased force than anything else. More force = more turning = more damage to spinal column.

 

[Det.Mittens]

If you shoot someone in the head from a great enough distance then the bullet will reach them before the shot which is kinda silent.

 

[Dr. wonderful]

I always considered this how to do a damn good stealth kill.

Joking aside, I always was led to believe Knife in kidney; hand over mouth. Wait till victim Target expires.

 

[StBishop]

I've been thinking, and a good stab/twist to the heart wouldn't be a bad idea either. It should result in the same blood pressure drop as the carotid cut and it's easier. It's also a little easier to miss too, so I can't really decide which is your best bet. On the other hand, it's gonna be pretty hard to get the leverage you need to shove a blade through the throat like that, although you're pretty likely to take out at least one carotid on the stab anyway, so it's not that crucially important. Still, I can't imagine it would be easy, that is a lot of cutting surface and you don't have the advantage of momentum.

It'd be remarkably hard to twist a knife that's passed between the ribs, assuming you've managed to get in between the ribs.

Like you've said, hitting the heart (and the left ventricle specifically) would be incredibly hard.

Neck is an easier target, the arteries are easy enough to hit if you drag along this line:

If you have a thin, less strong knife there's another way called 'Pulling the Plug' where you insert it right above their first vertebrae and then twist sharply. Snaps the brain stem right in half.

That's be so hard it's rediculous.

Have you seen the joint between the atlus and skull?

It looks like this:

That's really high up. It'd be incredibly hard to reach with a knife.

 

[Berethond]

I've been thinking, and a good stab/twist to the heart wouldn't be a bad idea either. It should result in the same blood pressure drop as the carotid cut and it's easier. It's also a little easier to miss too, so I can't really decide which is your best bet. On the other hand, it's gonna be pretty hard to get the leverage you need to shove a blade through the throat like that, although you're pretty likely to take out at least one carotid on the stab anyway, so it's not that crucially important. Still, I can't imagine it would be easy, that is a lot of cutting surface and you don't have the advantage of momentum.

It'd be remarkably hard to twist a knife that's passed between the ribs, assuming you've managed to get in between the ribs.

Like you've said, hitting the heart (and the left ventricle specifically) would be incredibly hard.

Neck is an easier target, the arteries are easy enough to hit if you drag along this line:

If you have a thin, less strong knife there's another way called 'Pulling the Plug' where you insert it right above their first vertebrae and then twist sharply. Snaps the brain stem right in half.

That's be so hard it's rediculous.

Have you seen the joint between the atlus and skull?

It looks like this:

That's really high up. It'd be incredibly hard to reach with a knife.

Well I didn't say it would be easy, obviously you would need lots of luck and training. And I understand that it's really high, since I'm short, even throat-cutting wouldn't really work for me. Even if I could reach, I'd get blood in my eyes <.<

 

[Vicarious Reality]

Isn't the side of the skull in front of the ear very thin?
Couldn't you just stab in and tilt the spike or dagger towards the forehead cutting the lower back of the brain?

 

[Wolf-AUS]

When they're not doing...what, sorry? You've confused me...

Was supposed to be fancy shit*, damn iphone auto-correct. Unless you meant going for firsts, by which I meant to be the first person to kill using a certain means.

 

[Robert Ewing]

I... what. I wasn't aware that this forum accepted killing techniques.

 

[EightGaugeHippo]

Whats wrong with just straight up Fisticuffs?
Kill them like a man XD

 

[Wintermoot]

And the point of this thread is....?

telling you how to kill people.
OT
why do we need to know this?
if we want to be a assassin we would probably have found easier ways to kill people.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

Why is the majority of people posting to this thread acting like they know what they're talking about? Unless you're posting this from a jail cell, I doubt anyone actually does.

The military don't even go into this stuff that much anymore. Fighting with knives/bayonets is so last century. Hell, nowadays soldiers don't even kill people with guns, believe it or not. It's all about holding position until you can get in artillery or a gunship to blow up whoever's shooting at you. They say in Iraq, for every 250,000 rounds fired, only one combatant is actually killed by small arms fire.

That's been true in a lot of wars.


Here, watch that, and see how many bullets hit compared to the misses. It might not be one of the disturbing real life videos that other guy was posting, but still.

 

[martyrdrebel27]

i thought that it was best to sneak behind and right as you place your hand across their mouth, take the blade and force it between the... 6 and 7th ribs? i don't remember the numbers, but it punctures the lung, deflates it and suffocates/drowns them. rendering them unable to scream, and shortly after, dead.

i don't know, a navy friend of mine told me this, i have no personal training or knowledge on the subject.

 

[Lt_Bromhead]

Its quite possible Lt_Bromhead's (Lt, Lieutenant essence of the military hang over)...

Oh. My. God.

I never even noticed that.

Dad had more of an influence on me than I thought!

 

[TheTim]

From what i understand, to do a silent kill with a throat cut, you have to slice the corroded Artery and their esophagus open at the same time, so they can't make any noise vocally because their throat is filling with blood.

 

[Mariena]

You are correct, OP.

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All in all I don't recommend learning those techniques from games.

The perfect knife for performing this technique would be something like the Cold Steel AK-47. However I still would choose the versatility of a longer knife for overt use.

Yeah that's.. pretty nasty.