The right to be racist , sexist and/or Homophobic *Read in full*

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krazykidd

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Before i begin , i will like to state that i do not support Racism/sexisim/Homophobia or any other type of -isms that may or may not exist.

Now that, that is out of the way , This thread is for discussion value purposes only , and that i myself am not racist/sexist nor homophobic, i am merely playing the devils advocate.

Okay , Racism is , by Definition ," disliking or hating another race".

Sexism , is by definition "disliking or hating people of a specific sexe ".

And lastly Homophobia "hating or disliking a homosexual person ".



Each one of us have freedom of choice. The power to choose, what we like, what we do ,where we go , who we associate with , etc... We therefore have the 'right' to choose who we like and associate with for whatever reason , and who we dislike and don't associate ourselves with , also for what ever reason . If someone decides not to associate him/herself with black people (for example ), that is his/her right. No matter what the reason is, even if it's because that person don't like people with darker skin colour, he/she has the right to not associate themselves, or not like ( hate even ), because it's their choice. This is NOT problematic. No one can force anyone to like or dislike anything. It comes down to the person choosing. We all have people we dislike and other we like. It's our choice, although these choices can be influenced, it is ultimately our choice to make. When it does become problematic is not when a person is racist,sexist or homophobic, but when the person discriminates against another person because of these factors.

Another example. Some people are homophobic, they don't like seeing , or being around homosexual people. This is fine. A person has the right to not be comfortable or disliking someone for being a homosexual. Now it's NOT okay to treat someone poorly or differently because they are gay . That's where the problem lies. Not when someone hates someone for being gay , but when they treat them poorly because of it.

It's impossible to like everyone , it's also impossible to be liked by everyone. Inevitably there will be someone or a group of people you don't like or that don't like you. That's life. And it's very frequent that someone doesn't like you and you not even realise it , because they don't treat you poorly , just they would never associate themselves with you , unless absolutely necessary . And thats fine. The opposite is also true , there is someone or people that YOU don't like ( not necessarily because of race , sexe or sexual orientation ), but they don't know you don't like them because you don't treat them poorly .

Therefore as everyone has the right to not like another person for what ever reason, people also have the right to be racist , sexist or homophobic . As long as the person isn't taking discriminatory(is that a word?) actions , there isn't a problem. Just like if you don't treat a person you don't like ( again not necessarily because of race , sexe or sexual orientation )poorly , there isn't really any problem .

What i'm trying to say is that, there nothing wrong with a person being racist / sexist/
homophobic as long as they aren't discriminating.We all have the right to choose, as long as we don't go out of our way to hurt someone else.

So what do you think about this logic? Am i wrong to think this way ? Am i being too naive? Do you agree ?

P.S : I know that this thread might not please a lot of people that read it, but i really do want your feedback, i am prepared to be called names, a troll , or being flamed and i will not hold it against my fellows escapists for speaking their mind and calling me such. Also i have been discriminated against in the past due to my skin color and i don't wish that on anyone.
 

Jonluw

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Um, yes?
Don't most people hold this opinion?
You can't give a person jailtime for simply being racist.
 

hazabaza1

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IMO, you can have whatever feelings you want, but if you know that they will offend, or use them to offend, keep them to yourself.
 

itaywex

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I must say that this was an interesting read.

but basiclly what you are saying is that I can hate everyone I want so long that I dont harm them because of it.

So I dont think its such a big deal because most of the people know that.
 

CharrHearted

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So there's nothing wrong with blacks being murdered because they're black?


Yeah, i'l not choose to allow others to be racist.
 

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fare777 said:
So there's nothing wrong with blacks being murdered because they're black?


Yeah, i'l not choose to allow others to be racist.
You seem to have missed the point of the OP completely. It's acceptable for people to dislike others in some way because they're black, so long as they don't murder them (or harm/discriminate against them in any way).

OT: Well yeah, I agree, to a certain extent. Doesn't everyone, including the legal system of many countries?

I mean, in an ideal world people would never actually dislike other people because of their skin colour (or anything else like that), but since this isn't an ideal world and people will have stupid opinions, all we can do is stop them from acting upon them.
 

Braedan

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fare777 said:
So there's nothing wrong with blacks being murdered because they're black?


Yeah, i'l not choose to allow others to be racist.
you clearly read none of the post.

OT: yeah this is pretty common thought right now. And if it happens to offend some people who don't like it... well... oh well. You don't have a right to not be offended.
 

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krazykidd said:
What i'm trying to say is that, there nothing wrong with a person being racist / sexist/ homophobic as long as they aren't discriminating.We all have the right to choose, as long as we don't go out of our way to hurt someone else.
Define "nothing wrong". If you mean "nothing illegal" then you are correct. There is no law against hating someone for the color of their skin or their sexual identity. If you mean "NOTHING WRONG" then I'm afraid you and I will have to disagree. Prejudice is both ethically deplorable and logically absurd, so there are a couple of extremely obvious angles from which to attack it.

So, if the point of this diatribe is "people can hate who they want for whatever reasons they please", you're right. They can! It doesn't mean they're not hugely ignorant douche cannons, and that society doesn't have an equal right to hate them in return for their destructive, irrational beliefs.
 

BlumiereBleck

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Go points and all but I think we should add a new word a invented called "heterophobia" to go alongside with homophobia.
 

BloatedGuppy

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Skullkid4187 said:
Go points and all but I think we should add a new word a invented called "heterophobia" to go alongside with homophobia.
I think you should spend a little more time working on the words we've already got before you go inventing new ones.
 

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Skullkid4187 said:
Go points and all but I think we should add a new word a invented called "heterophobia" to go alongside with homophobia.
That's not exactly new... it's a legitimate thing.
.-.
 

OmniscientOstrich

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BloatedGuppy said:
krazykidd said:
What i'm trying to say is that, there nothing wrong with a person being racist / sexist/ homophobic as long as they aren't discriminating.We all have the right to choose, as long as we don't go out of our way to hurt someone else.
Define "nothing wrong". If you mean "nothing illegal" then you are correct. There is no law against hating someone for the color of their skin or their sexual identity. If you mean "NOTHING WRONG" then I'm afraid you and I will have to disagree. Prejudice is both ethically deplorable and logically absurd, so there are a couple of extremely obvious angles from which to attack it.

So, if the point of this diatribe is "people can hate who they want for whatever reasons they please", you're right. They can! It doesn't mean they're not hugely ignorant douche cannons, and that society doesn't have an equal right to hate them in return for their destructive, irrational beliefs.
Yup, this sums things up pretty nicely.
 

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krazykidd said:
Okay , Racism is , by Definition ," disliking or hating another race".
No, it's not,

Racism is a pejorative term, e.g. if you claim the a race is somehow inferior to another, then yes, that is Racism.
But simply disliking a race of people, does not make one racist (xenophobic maybe), but not racist.
Sexism , is by definition "disliking or hating people of a specific sexe ".
No, it's not,

Again, it's a pejorative term, so claiming that one sex is inferior to another, IS sexism.
And lastly Homophobia "hating or disliking a homosexual person ".
and Not really.

Homophobia refers to a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards lesbian, gay and in some cases bisexual, transgender people, usually manifested in irrational fear, with the implication of antipathy, contempt, prejudice, and aversion.

Just Remember...
 

Strain42

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Here's my thing. I don't hate races, sexes or sexual preferences. I hate the stereotypes, and I will dislike the person, regardless of who they actually are, if they take them up.

Someone yelling at the screen in the movie theatre is a typically black stereotype, right? But to me, if someone is yelling in the movie theatre, I don't care if they're black, white, chinese, indian, male, female, gay, straight, whatever...They're being inconsiderate.

A common gay stereotype is an effeminate voice and in-your-face flamboyancy. But I've met straight people like that, and I find them irritating. It has nothing to do with whether someone is gay or not. If you're gay and you're cool, you're fine with me.

Races, sexes and preferences aren't the issue (in my case anyway, I obviously don't speak for everyone) but behavior is. If someone acts like a negative stereotype, regardless of if they fit the general consensus for that stereotype, it's annoying and worth disliking.
 

Diddy_King

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I dislike most black people because they are poor tippers (I wait tables).

I also dislike teenagers, and 50% of old people because they are also poor tippers.

Doesn't mean I'm OK with a holocaust against them or anything. It's cool to not like people; hell, it's even OK to vent about it. But when it comes to actually physically acting on it then it's wrong.
 

Hitokiri_Gensai

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people are given the right of humanity to think what they will. Some countries may not let them say it, but they cannot change a man from believing it.

Not the freedom of speech, the free will of humanity. No government, no person, or entity can stop a person from thinking what they will.

Do I support racism, sexism, or homophobia? no, not in any way shape or form, but i cannot stop someone else from thinking it.

Im an asian, lesbian woman, i could be someones worst nightmare, but i cant stop them from thinking it.