The school bully's little brother problem. I.E The I'm screwed either way problem

[Holy_Handgrenade]

Last week I was walking down one of my Highschool's hallways joking with friends when a kid of around twelve barged into me expecting me to be the one to give way but he did and fell onto the ground, the kid defended his honour with "You do that again and I'll smash your fucking face in!" Me and my friends are fifteen so we just laughed at this and carried on wakling. The next day the kid approachs me and asks for a fight me and my friends even the girls laughed at this and slightly goaded him asking him what was he going to do? and pretending sarcasticaly to be scared. To which his friend said "Do you know who his fucking brother is?!" I appeared thoughtful for a moment and replied "Ha, No and unless it's Hitler I don't care." but it turns out his brother was, I feel childish saying this "but hardest in the year" and not in a sexual way. His brother is in my year and is the sort of guy who would beat you to a pulp for looking at you funny. They had a grudge with this other kid that they didn't let go untill he was beaten to a pulp and probably a sign of this families intelligence and forgot about it over the summer break. The worst part is yesterday he came up to me again in front of a friend of mine and infront of a girl who I have a thing going with and started hitting me with a stick while his brother and his gang watch from afar so I grabbed the stick and snapped it and pushed the boy at which point his brother and his 'gang' stood up, so I turned around. The kid than started harrasing me and when I turned around hit me and ran at which point alot of people were watching I tried to laugh it off infront of everyone.

So basicaly first I don't want to hit a kid three years younger than me and If I did his brother and his brother's friends would be on my case. Although I am not the most popular at my school, I have a good thing going for myself but this is starting to rub of badly on my reputation and if you don't have a good reputation at highschool your life can become hell, so escapists what do I do?


EDIT: I would like to outline two points just ignoring it and hoping it dies down is a option it does very bad things to my reputation in the mean time also I could probably take the older boy but he isn't someone you want to mess with he holds grudes to the extent him and his friends have assulted a guy from behind before while he wasn't looking and basicaly took turns to beat him to a pulp.

Also this kid despite his brothers reputation is not well known around school so If people heard I beat up a kid alot younger than me they will see him as the victim because they don't know how much of a douche he is.

OUTCOME:

Many of you expressed intrest in knowing what happens so I've made this section for what will happen in the following days.

28th Feb- I saw the older brother a few times and made eye contact but he doesn't seem that bothered unless I retaliate to his brother. Didn't see the younger brother today but to be honest this sounds pathetic but I mostly avoided him, as If I hit him I would be seen as being the douche and his older brother and friends would retaliate for him, if I ignored him I would look like a wimp taking shit from a twelve year old and if I carried on laughing at him while it wouldn't harm my reputation and give my friends a few laughs it could esculate the situation so to be honest for now I am avoiding a conflict unless I am confronted.

29th Feb- Saw the older brother a few times he generaly seems to have forgot, but haven't run into the little swine saw him once though from across the yard.

 

[drwow]

do you think you could take the big kid?

 

[Motiv_]

Disclaimer: This is probably not the smartest nor the safest way of handling your problem, this is just what worked for me.

Go up to the kid's brother and tell him politely that if his brother doesn't knock it off, you're going to utterly wreck his shit.

Seriously. This worked for me. His little brother started that up again, I slapped him around a little bit, older brother did nothing, kid knocked it off.

 

[Holy_Handgrenade]

do you think you could take the big kid?

I have done martial arts and I probably could as I have done well in other fights, but the "Big kid" has held a grudge before to the extent that he and his friends attacking a boy all at once while he wasn't looking.

 

[TheTurtleMan]

Just ignore the kid and avoid his brother. Even if he won't let it go, there's not much a 12 year old can do on his own unless he gets his brother involved. Pretty simple but I think that it could work.

 

[DanDeFool]

Talk to the principal.

No reason you should have to get your hands dirty sorting that little shit out.

 

[Agila_77]

Well all I can say is that if it gets violent, don't be afraid to fight dirty.

To a less violent extent, you think you could try reasoning with them, or try the authorities?

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

Really?What country are you in because if you are in the U.S. then there is a little thing called juvy.

 

[Agayek]

My recommendation: Slap the 12 year old upside the head, repeatedly. If his brother starts shit, fight him. Whether or not you win, if you can at least fight back you'll be fine. Worst case, you'll just need to be careful near your school for a few weeks.

There's really no way to get out of this situation without either you committing or receiving violence. You might be able to get a teacher or something to interfere, but in my experience that's ineffectual at best.

There's a slim chance you could make a play on the pride of the little kid though. Make some comments along the lines of how he's always hiding behind his brother and you might be able to, if nothing else, keep the brother out of it.

 

[FlyAwayAutumn]

What I'd do. Fight. I like fighting.

That's me though. I'd recommend you get some help. I'm not being mean either. Get the principal, a teacher, parents. Somebody. Just get some help.

 

[Lt. Dragunov]

Tell a teacher, but if you go to a school that does nothing about bullying, like 90% of all schools, tell his big "bad" brother to tell his brother to stop botherin you. Now if the big brother is a meat head, like it sounds like he is, and says no.... then it looks like someone is gonna have to get thier shit ripped.

 

[Holy_Handgrenade]

Really?What country are you in because if you are in the U.S. then there is a little thing called juvy

I am in the UK where the punishment unofficialy depends on how much of a commotion it made and how much damage a kid took.

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

Really?What country are you in because if you are in the U.S. then there is a little thing called juvy

I am in the UK where the punishment unofficialy depends on how much of a commotion it made and how much damage a kid took.

I recommend this.Many teachers and authorities just eat up the mental stuff and even if that does not work,there is a very easy choice of psychoanalysis.From what I am reading,this is your typical bully.Simple,expose him for everything he really is and you destroy his reputation.From there,all you need to do is take him out.My recommendation,if you have a mean principal then make him/her work for you.It is pretty easy to suck up.

 

[Scoffy89]

Tell the little kid to stop being a twat and if he continues tell his brother you're going to slap him unless he stops annoying you. Either big brother will understand and not care or get too defensive at which point you either have a free pass to give the kid a slap or slap him anyways and deal with what happens when it happens. Or you could just ignore until he stops but if this kid is the typical "I can do anything because of my brother" and will not stop. I'd take the chance and give him a slap.

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

Kick the little kids ass. Power respects power? And honestly, I would risk getting my ass handed to me to put the little fuck in his place. Douche little kids are an epidemic

 

[Holy_Handgrenade]

Really?What country are you in because if you are in the U.S. then there is a little thing called juvy

I am in the UK where the punishment unofficialy depends on how much of a commotion it made and how much damage a kid took.

I recommend this.Many teachers and authorities just eat up the mental stuff and even if that does not work,there is a very easy choice of psychoanalysis.From what I am reading,this is your typical bully.Simple,expose him for everything he really is and you destroy his reputation.From there,all you need to do is take him out.My recommendation,if you have a mean principal then make him/her work for you.It is pretty easy to suck up.

Could you expand I do not understand how to expos him or how I could get the principle to help me take him out?

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

Really?What country are you in because if you are in the U.S. then there is a little thing called juvy

I am in the UK where the punishment unofficialy depends on how much of a commotion it made and how much damage a kid took.

I recommend this.Many teachers and authorities just eat up the mental stuff and even if that does not work,there is a very easy choice of psychoanalysis.From what I am reading,this is your typical bully.Simple,expose him for everything he really is and you destroy his reputation.From there,all you need to do is take him out.My recommendation,if you have a mean principal then make him/her work for you.It is pretty easy to suck up.

Could you expand I do not understand how to expos him or how I could get the principle to help me take him out?

Well,what I see here is a matter of classic bullying.I have had to deal with some as well and the best way to counter them is to simply,publicly expose them.If he gives you ammunition then you had best be using it.Just get him out into the public eye with his activities and if things become an apparent case of bullying then the school wants to look good.
Can't have one without the other so be careful.Now,knowing that I have no clue to the full situation,I cannot guarantee that this would work as I have never lived in the UK,but if anything like a Texas school,the workers are trying to convert you to a certain mindset and if you can make them think you fall into it then you hold power over them.You know,a teachers pet so to speak.

 

[Holy_Handgrenade]

Got any huge or dangerous buds/relatives

My uncle is a ninja...no joke he has weapons and is freakin sneaky

Yes all of one side of my family especialy my brother used to be almost 'Godlike' while I am fairly popular and can handle myself in a fight I am more or less the runt of th litter and most dissapointingly not much of my brothers reputation rubbed of on me unlike the rest of my family due to only the oldest when I first came to the school remembering him. It sounds stupid but I wouldn't want them to see me in this predicament.