Get ready for a massive wall of text people.
n00beffect said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
putowtin said:
No_Remainders said:
So. We've all heard this before, the console fan-bases are shit because most of the people who play them are children who swear and shout inanely into their mics.
Ok, what does this have to do with anything? Yeah, sure, they're annoying, but there are mute buttons.
I just read a reason why (apparently) Black Ops was bad as being "screaming children and campers galore". This makes no sense. Sure, campers can be annoying, but screaming children do not affect the game or how it plays.
Seriously, learn what a mute button is and how it works.
my argument is why are kids (and I mean kids) playing games like COD in the first place, it's an 18 rated game and yet I've seen parents buying it for their kids, one asked me if I thought it suitable for his 10 year old son!
This is a different discussion, and one that I would side with the kids/parents. Only the child's parents know if their child is mature enough to play said game. If they believe that their, for example, 12 year old son is intelligent to distinguish between fact and faction, that's their decision.
The problem comes in when parents don't take an interest in their child's hobby. I've been lucky, what with having gamers as parents, but some people just don't know or care.
What utter bollocks! "Parents know whether their child is mature enough to play games or not?" Ha-ha-ha! Yeah right, they know, the same way senators know what effect games have on people, or what a CONTROLER is for that matter! Parents couldn't tell the difference between a game like Kirby's Epic Yarn and COD, even if said difference came and slapped them in the face! Furthermore, unless you're unfamiliar with the parents of today, and have missed-out on the fact that every parent thinks of his/her child as being some super-special-awesome genius, more mature then the maturest mature person in the world, then let me fill you in. Yes, thou hast had many a luck in having parents as gamers, but that's rarely the case, however.
Wow, good job not reading there. If you actually take the time to read more than the first and last sentence of my post you'll find a number of things that make your reply a waste of time. Not only did you manage to misquote me in your post when the text
was directly above it, but you also completely misrepresent my opinion.
If you actually took the time to carefully read my post you'll find that I said:
The problem comes in when parents don't take an interest in their child's hobby. I've been lucky, what with having gamers as parents, but some people just don't know or care.
The implication being that my previous paragraph only holds if the child actually has good parents.
Next time, read before replying.
William Ossiss said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite
except when they attack F2P players.
COD is a bad example, anyway. it's not just children that are complete and utter asshats. it's teenagers, adults. it's the rampant "your mom" jokes that apparently never get old. it's the pseudo anonymity of the internet that allows people to believe that there are no repercussions to what they say or do. and some people are just assholes.
it is exactly why i mute anyone who is slightly confrontational. im not playing a game to listen to you be a moron. im playing to have fun. if your going to try and ruin that for me, you can go fuck yourself. your muted. tons of people ***** and whine when i mute them. they wanted that attention i refused to give them.
ive been in plenty of games where everyone is a good sport. at the very end "good game" is said. those i enjoy. so console games can have their ups and downs. as can pc games. stupidity is rampant, and not exclusive to one or the other.
You've been much more polite so I'll be much kinder to you.
Your argument is sound and well presented, the only problem here is it seems to be a rebuttal to either something I never said, or something I may have accidentally implied. To make this easier, I'll break down your response.
except when they attack F2P players.
While this may happen, sure, I've never encountered it, and that was the point of my post, to recount
my experiences with the two game's respective communities.
COD is a bad example, anyway. it's not just children that are complete and utter asshats. it's teenagers, adults. it's the rampant "your mom" jokes that apparently never get old. it's the pseudo anonymity of the internet that allows people to believe that there are no repercussions to what they say or do. and some people are just assholes.
This is why, as my posts in this thread went on I focused more on the communities as a whole, as opposed to the age groups that inhabit them.
it is exactly why i mute anyone who is slightly confrontational. im not playing a game to listen to you be a moron. im playing to have fun. if your going to try and ruin that for me, you can go fuck yourself. your muted. tons of people ***** and whine when i mute them. they wanted that attention i refused to give them.
I do the same thing, I just take it one step further. If you've read my other posts in this thread you'll find that when I play COD, I always have mute all on. What I was saying was that, I've never been prompted to mute anyone in a game of TF2, let alone turn off voice chat altogether.
ive been in plenty of games where everyone is a good sport. at the very end "good game" is said. those i enjoy. so console games can have their ups and downs. as can pc games. stupidity is rampant, and not exclusive to one or the other.
This is why my thoughts on this subject were, as I said before, examining the games' player-bases as a whole, not excluding them based on platform.
So, wrapping up, my thoughts on the matter are thus:
1. In
my experience TF2 has had an unfailingly awesome community.
2. In
my experience COD games are generally filled with profanity, people screaming hax at every death and just not generally being a nice environment to play in.
Thanks for reading.