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BonsaiK

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Azaraxzealot said:
i KNOW good modern music exists, but the mainstream and corporate music industry is doing its best to stifle it.
Hahahaha, that's wacky. If it's truly good music it means the music industry can make money off it. Why would we try to stifle it?

I think what you meant to say is "I know that music which I like exists, the mainstream and corporate music industry however has other ideas about what constitutes good music". Although you'd be wrong, because all the bands that you've mentioned you like are signed to record labels of some description who sell their product and are thus as much a part of the "corporate music industry" as anything on the top 40.
 

TheRightToArmBears

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Novs said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Pop music is like candy floss. Sweet but bland, and not filling at all. Pretty empty and forgettable. People who are into music tend not to like it because they want something a bit more substantial, but most people aren't that bothered and just like a catchy tune. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. There's no law stating people need a large interest in music.

Novs said:
RUINER ACTUAL said:
TonyCapa said:
Today music is about image and marketability. I don't like to mention his name but Justin Bieber. He makes money and sells albums for these two reaons. One, thirteen year old girls like him and therefore think he's a good artist. Two, most of the world listens to rap and pop so there's a bigger chance he'll sell. Ensiferum does not fit this. They are a viking metal band from Finnland. They have long hair, don't wear shirts on stage, growl a lot, play power cords and don't sing about freaking sunshine, puppies and love. So they don't fit into the niche of everybody else and you'll never see them being played in a mainstream place, unlike Pop.
Plus most Americas don't know what or where Finland is. There is a chance for metal in the US though. Lamb of God got to #2 on the Billboard 200 in 2009 with Wrath, All That Remains was like #8 with their last one, and Devildriver has been in the top 10 too. But you don't hear their music on the radio, which is where the top 40 come from.

Also, listening to Ensiferum. Pretty damn good.
Teehee Lamb Of God and Devil Driver are metal equivelants of shallow pop music. Their commercialised within metal itself.

I just love this how some people think their music is soo deep when their listening to the same shit wrapped in a diffrent aesthetic, this time its harsh guitars and vocals. "Hurr durr lady gaga suxx i listen to hard music liek slipknotz"

I see what you're getting at, but I disagree. The majority of metal bands have an infinitely larger creative input than most pop acts, that makes it more meaningful to me, at least. Lamb of God's sound wasn't devised by someone at a record company, it was made by the band themselves.
To me lamb of god is another shitty generic metalcore band chugging out shit.

I find Lady Gaga to be much better than them at music, she is so much more interesting than lamb of god.

Cant say much about creative outputs, Metal is my favorite genre, so im biased, and at the same time there are loads of copy cats everywhere.
Lamb of God aren't metalcore. I don't mind when people don't share my tastes, but it annoys me when people rail at stuff I like with things that aren't true.
 

TheRightToArmBears

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Novs said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Novs said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Pop music is like candy floss. Sweet but bland, and not filling at all. Pretty empty and forgettable. People who are into music tend not to like it because they want something a bit more substantial, but most people aren't that bothered and just like a catchy tune. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. There's no law stating people need a large interest in music.

Novs said:
RUINER ACTUAL said:
TonyCapa said:
Today music is about image and marketability. I don't like to mention his name but Justin Bieber. He makes money and sells albums for these two reaons. One, thirteen year old girls like him and therefore think he's a good artist. Two, most of the world listens to rap and pop so there's a bigger chance he'll sell. Ensiferum does not fit this. They are a viking metal band from Finnland. They have long hair, don't wear shirts on stage, growl a lot, play power cords and don't sing about freaking sunshine, puppies and love. So they don't fit into the niche of everybody else and you'll never see them being played in a mainstream place, unlike Pop.
Plus most Americas don't know what or where Finland is. There is a chance for metal in the US though. Lamb of God got to #2 on the Billboard 200 in 2009 with Wrath, All That Remains was like #8 with their last one, and Devildriver has been in the top 10 too. But you don't hear their music on the radio, which is where the top 40 come from.

Also, listening to Ensiferum. Pretty damn good.
Teehee Lamb Of God and Devil Driver are metal equivelants of shallow pop music. Their commercialised within metal itself.

I just love this how some people think their music is soo deep when their listening to the same shit wrapped in a diffrent aesthetic, this time its harsh guitars and vocals. "Hurr durr lady gaga suxx i listen to hard music liek slipknotz"

I see what you're getting at, but I disagree. The majority of metal bands have an infinitely larger creative input than most pop acts, that makes it more meaningful to me, at least. Lamb of God's sound wasn't devised by someone at a record company, it was made by the band themselves.
To me lamb of god is another shitty generic metalcore band chugging out shit.

I find Lady Gaga to be much better than them at music, she is so much more interesting than lamb of god.

Cant say much about creative outputs, Metal is my favorite genre, so im biased, and at the same time there are loads of copy cats everywhere.
Lamb of God aren't metalcore. I don't mind when people don't share my tastes, but it annoys me when people rail at stuff I like with things that aren't true.
Their metalcore as fuck. Its just you take metalcore as an insult, which is rather closemindedd no offense.
Actually I quite like some metalcore, but there's a whole bunch of metal-elitists that use it as an insult all the time.

Metalcore
Not Metalcore
 

Mandalore_15

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TheRightToArmBears said:
Novs said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Novs said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Pop music is like candy floss. Sweet but bland, and not filling at all. Pretty empty and forgettable. People who are into music tend not to like it because they want something a bit more substantial, but most people aren't that bothered and just like a catchy tune. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. There's no law stating people need a large interest in music.

Novs said:
RUINER ACTUAL said:
TonyCapa said:
Today music is about image and marketability. I don't like to mention his name but Justin Bieber. He makes money and sells albums for these two reaons. One, thirteen year old girls like him and therefore think he's a good artist. Two, most of the world listens to rap and pop so there's a bigger chance he'll sell. Ensiferum does not fit this. They are a viking metal band from Finnland. They have long hair, don't wear shirts on stage, growl a lot, play power cords and don't sing about freaking sunshine, puppies and love. So they don't fit into the niche of everybody else and you'll never see them being played in a mainstream place, unlike Pop.
Plus most Americas don't know what or where Finland is. There is a chance for metal in the US though. Lamb of God got to #2 on the Billboard 200 in 2009 with Wrath, All That Remains was like #8 with their last one, and Devildriver has been in the top 10 too. But you don't hear their music on the radio, which is where the top 40 come from.

Also, listening to Ensiferum. Pretty damn good.
Teehee Lamb Of God and Devil Driver are metal equivelants of shallow pop music. Their commercialised within metal itself.

I just love this how some people think their music is soo deep when their listening to the same shit wrapped in a diffrent aesthetic, this time its harsh guitars and vocals. "Hurr durr lady gaga suxx i listen to hard music liek slipknotz"

I see what you're getting at, but I disagree. The majority of metal bands have an infinitely larger creative input than most pop acts, that makes it more meaningful to me, at least. Lamb of God's sound wasn't devised by someone at a record company, it was made by the band themselves.
To me lamb of god is another shitty generic metalcore band chugging out shit.

I find Lady Gaga to be much better than them at music, she is so much more interesting than lamb of god.

Cant say much about creative outputs, Metal is my favorite genre, so im biased, and at the same time there are loads of copy cats everywhere.
Lamb of God aren't metalcore. I don't mind when people don't share my tastes, but it annoys me when people rail at stuff I like with things that aren't true.
Their metalcore as fuck. Its just you take metalcore as an insult, which is rather closemindedd no offense.
Actually I quite like some metalcore, but there's a whole bunch of metal-elitists that use it as an insult all the time.

Metalcore
Not Metalcore
They might not be "metalcore" but they are part of the new wave of American metal. I tend to lump all that stuff together, but that's just me...
 

TheRightToArmBears

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Mandalore_15 said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Novs said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Novs said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Pop music is like candy floss. Sweet but bland, and not filling at all. Pretty empty and forgettable. People who are into music tend not to like it because they want something a bit more substantial, but most people aren't that bothered and just like a catchy tune. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. There's no law stating people need a large interest in music.

Novs said:
RUINER ACTUAL said:
TonyCapa said:
Today music is about image and marketability. I don't like to mention his name but Justin Bieber. He makes money and sells albums for these two reaons. One, thirteen year old girls like him and therefore think he's a good artist. Two, most of the world listens to rap and pop so there's a bigger chance he'll sell. Ensiferum does not fit this. They are a viking metal band from Finnland. They have long hair, don't wear shirts on stage, growl a lot, play power cords and don't sing about freaking sunshine, puppies and love. So they don't fit into the niche of everybody else and you'll never see them being played in a mainstream place, unlike Pop.
Plus most Americas don't know what or where Finland is. There is a chance for metal in the US though. Lamb of God got to #2 on the Billboard 200 in 2009 with Wrath, All That Remains was like #8 with their last one, and Devildriver has been in the top 10 too. But you don't hear their music on the radio, which is where the top 40 come from.

Also, listening to Ensiferum. Pretty damn good.
Teehee Lamb Of God and Devil Driver are metal equivelants of shallow pop music. Their commercialised within metal itself.

I just love this how some people think their music is soo deep when their listening to the same shit wrapped in a diffrent aesthetic, this time its harsh guitars and vocals. "Hurr durr lady gaga suxx i listen to hard music liek slipknotz"

I see what you're getting at, but I disagree. The majority of metal bands have an infinitely larger creative input than most pop acts, that makes it more meaningful to me, at least. Lamb of God's sound wasn't devised by someone at a record company, it was made by the band themselves.
To me lamb of god is another shitty generic metalcore band chugging out shit.

I find Lady Gaga to be much better than them at music, she is so much more interesting than lamb of god.

Cant say much about creative outputs, Metal is my favorite genre, so im biased, and at the same time there are loads of copy cats everywhere.
Lamb of God aren't metalcore. I don't mind when people don't share my tastes, but it annoys me when people rail at stuff I like with things that aren't true.
Their metalcore as fuck. Its just you take metalcore as an insult, which is rather closemindedd no offense.
Actually I quite like some metalcore, but there's a whole bunch of metal-elitists that use it as an insult all the time.

Metalcore
Not Metalcore
They might not be "metalcore" but they are part of the new wave of American metal. I tend to lump all that stuff together, but that's just me...
NWoAM isn't really a genre, it's to vague. Mastodon are considered NWoAM, they sound nothing like Lamb of God.
 

Jamboxdotcom

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lowest common denominator. it's probably already been said, didn't wanna read through all 5 pages.

i actually formulated a (pseudo-) scientific theory about this trend. "the artistic merit of a song is inversely proportional to the number of little girls (i.e. aged 8-16) who will dance to said song." i.e. if the tweens and young teens like it, it's probably gonna be crap, 'cause they're too young to know any better.