The Sims 4 Won't Have Pools, Toddlers

[Glaice]

More Maxisspeak saying they're too lazy to animate smaller models for this.

 

[gamegod25]

"...has sparked an outrage among The Sims fanbase which has enjoyed toddlers..."

That just sounds so wrong XD

OT: No pools....really? Wasn't aware coding pools (something that has been in every Sims game since 2000) was so hard to do. Guess when they say "we're building an incredibly strong foundation that is capable of fulfilling every one of your desires in the years to come" that is just them admitting that they are cutting everything they can out for expansions to sell content back later on.

 

[Zetman]

if they add it as a free update then no problem
if they add it as a dlc, then...yarr

 

[tangoprime]

"...won't be available when The Sims 4 Base Game launches in September, you should know that we're building an incredibly strong foundation that is capable of fulfilling every one of your desires in the years to come."

Including your desire to have pools, but not at launch, they'll come later with the Summertime Fun expansion for $39.99. Just like how The Sims 3 stripped a lot of base features out of the Sims 2 and sold them back as parts of expansions.

Know what would be a really great expansion? One for The Sims 3 that fixes all of the bugs that build up from running all the previous expansions. Without mods to fix things like routing and doing background cleanup, the game is damn near unplayable in it's current state, and in some cases you'll still have a gamebreaking bug that'll cause you to lose your family (World Adventures traveling was a mess with it). But no, as someone else mentioned, the forums look pretty much like this: "omg, lost all my progress, fix these stupid bugs EA! Oh, and when does the next stuff pack come out? I want to preorder the gold version for extra stuff."

 

[Treeberry]

It was very, very obvious how stripped TS3 was with a focus on insulting microtransactions and bare bones expansions. I 'love' how even with 50% off the DLC on Steam comes to £164-ish and that's without the actual microtransactions. It really doesn't help that the game throws "Plz moar monies" in your face as soon as you load it.

I want to say that EA will dig themselves into a hole because more people will be alienated buuuut...

 

[LegendaryVKickr]

Since I'm that into the game I've been following the news real closely. And believe, a lot of simmers are really whiny about these exclusions. I'm not btw.

See, that's what I don't understand. I saw this elsewhere today as well. How come it's perceived as "whining"? Do you really WANT to spend another several hundred dollars on a game when it's so openly ripping you off from the get-go? Just send them your credit card info, get it over with quick like tearing off a band-aid.

It's not, to me at least, about the exclusions anyways. It's EA treating the consumers like idiots, hoping we'll keep throwing money at them while they can get away with giving us a less than adequate game. I'd honestly respect them more if they just said "We're not doing pools because fuck you. Give us money". At least it would be honest.

 

[JayDeth]

See: We know you suckers will buy it later anyway. Stay tuned after Sims 4 to see what features we're removing to sell later for Sims 5.

 

[Varis]

DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC.

Coming soon: The Sims 4 Female DLC! Because there weren't enough resources to put them in the main game!

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Hectix777]

"It's not possible for us to include every single feature and piece of content we added to The Sims 3 over the last five years,"

I'm pretty sure in the age of digital downloads and patches, yes it is possible. I'm also fairly certain they've done so for the past few games.

Not to forget the fact that they created a micro transaction system for more worlds and brand new furnishings on top of the expansions with new features they release on a semi-monthly schedule

 

[BoogieManFL]

Why give it to us when you can sell it to us, just be honest.


So what happens when your sims procreate? The mom just pops out a preteen? How is that even going to work?

 

[Techno Squidgy]

I love The Sims, but it's like the posterboy for piracy.

You get a few choices with The Sims:
Buying the base game and being unhappy with the lack of content compared to the previous iteration.
Buying the base game and the expansions, enjoying the game as intended, getting everything from the previous game, plus some extras and the visual/mechanical upgrade at serious personal expense, probably upwards of £150 in total.
Pirating the whole damn thing and enjoying the game as intended, for free.

If Maxis/EA just priced and developed the damn game a bit more sensibly, people might not be so inclined to pirate the damn thing. I wonder what the actual piracy figures are like for The Sims, I'd imagine they're pretty high.

Note: I am not advocating piracy. I'm just saying, shit like this is the reason why people pirate games.

 

[BoogieManFL]

I love The Sims, but it's like the posterboy for piracy.

You get a few choices with The Sims:
Buying the base game and being unhappy with the lack of content compared to the previous iteration.
Buying the base game and the expansions, enjoying the game as intended, getting everything from the previous game, plus some extras and the visual/mechanical upgrade at serious personal expense, probably upwards of £150 in total.
Pirating the whole damn thing and enjoying the game as intended, for free.

If Maxis/EA just priced and developed the damn game a bit more sensibly, people might not be so inclined to pirate the damn thing. I wonder what the actual piracy figures are like for The Sims, I'd imagine they're pretty high.

Note: I am not advocating piracy. I'm just saying, shit like this is the reason why people pirate games.

It's all good. You're just saying what everyone is already thinking.

 

[Lightknight]

Ok, so they had a budget and adding toddlers and pools would have increased the cost too much. Not sure what there is to complain about.

I we going to mock companies for not having a smart budget and going out of business at the same time we ***** about a company not having a blank check to make a game have everything ever?

If it is DLC, then of course.

 

[Ikajo]

Since I'm that into the game I've been following the news real closely. And believe, a lot of simmers are really whiny about these exclusions. I'm not btw.

See, that's what I don't understand. I saw this elsewhere today as well. How come it's perceived as "whining"? Do you really WANT to spend another several hundred dollars on a game when it's so openly ripping you off from the get-go? Just send them your credit card info, get it over with quick like tearing off a band-aid.

It's not, to me at least, about the exclusions anyways. It's EA treating the consumers like idiots, hoping we'll keep throwing money at them while they can get away with giving us a less than adequate game. I'd honestly respect them more if they just said "We're not doing pools because fuck you. Give us money". At least it would be honest.

I consider it whining since I've seen ALL the time ever since the announcement of the game. It's extremely tiring. I'm following The Sims on Facebook and every single time they post a shot from the game people are gripping about stuff. Always! I think the game looks amazing. I can't wait to try it out!
You see, The Sims is really the only game I've ever enjoyed so I can deal with the high cost. I don't buy things in the sims store and I don't use mods. My only stuff packs were either real cheap or given to me. But you see, since I'm not buying things from the store, and all my expansions have a CD my actual annual cost is pretty low. And considering I spend a lots of hours with the game, it's worth it.

I a simmer, that's what I am. And everything I seen in the game looks gorgeous. The only thing I would miss if it's not in the base game is the possibility to have your own company (like author, painter and so on) and even then, I could make do anyway. Some gamers wait like crazy for Zelda, CoD, Super Mario, Assassins Creed and all those other titles. No one calls them stupid. No one thinks they are weird even when the game didn't turnout exactly how they liked it and still buying it.
I've been playing The Sims for 14 ys. One year and half ago I started thinking "The Sims 4 should be coming soon", and just a little while later, it was official. So is it really >that< weird I'm existed. Just two more month and I can finally do everything myself instead of scanning the net in search for even the tiniest news? This is my hobby. It's allowed to cost a bit. Most of my other hobbies are quite cheap after all.

And really, all that hating and whining because there are no pools? Geez, grow up people. They will come. In the meantime they should enjoy this brand new game and try out all the crazy stuff.

 

[antipunt]

Honestly Sims lost its 'charm' since the beginning of Sims 3. They stripped everything down, went for this super fat-faced cartoon look, and began charging for every possible thing you could think of. With mods, Sims 2 was obviously superior. Sims 3 never really got me the way Sims 2 did, and now with Sims 4, seems like the degeneration is only worsening -_-

 

[truckspond]

EA: "We're sorry about how that new Dungeon Keeper game was a naked money grab. Now go out and preorder The Sims 4 - Now with more artistic vision!"

 

[Vault101]

No matter how inclusive or progressive if your games is bad, it's still a bad game. Dragon Age 2 could singlehandedly end the oppression of gay people and minorities overnight but it would still have shitty repetition, look like ass, take place in a single boring city, have a downgraded combat system and a whole host of other problems.

Inclusiveness =/= automatic good game or mitigate all other failures.

I'm not saying it isn't

I'm just saying some people have different priorites. Some might rather play a game that gives them options than "stick it" to some big faceless corporation

 

[Atmos Duality]

I wouldn't doubt it if Maxis said this solely to gauge the response, and use that to determine the demand for pools and toddlers so they could better gauge the price when they are inevitably sold in some premium DLC (or better, as a pre-order for maximum deception).

Because that's how these soulless game factory automatons think (or function).