The six commandments of body language (using it to attract women)

[Neurowaste]

Pelvic thrust, sure as hell worked in Fable 2 right? That's how i got my girlfriend, but, then again, that might just have been my ravishing charm, that probably had nothing to do with it...

 

[GrinningManiac]

Smiling conveys that I'm not dangerous, eh?

Says the person that's never seen me smile. It's like the friggin' Joker.

You think YOU'RE like the friggin' Joker?

Buddy, once I chased my friend with a knife screaming "Why So Serious" purely because he commented that my smile was like old-style Joker.

I scare people, they keep away. I'm more like White Shark, actually.

So yeah, you can be darn old Joker, I can be a frostbite-withered bloke with sharpened teeth! Sweet!

 

[Rolling Thunder]

I must say, this is all very fascinating. Not that I need it, because I mastered the art of interacting with women a long time ago. You grab them, drag them into a van, blindfold and gag them, and procede to politely socialise with them until the ransom money arrives.


In all seriousness, I'd say it's fairly elementary, but for some amongst us, it may well be a helpful post. So kudos for posting something that isn't a blasted relgion/politics/Halo/Yahtzhee thread.

Oh, and Danny Boy? This is Broadsword. Shut up, or I'll nail your head to the wall.

 

[DannyBoy451]

The fact that some of you see this as anything other than P.U.A. voodoo bullshit is very amusing to me.

This is psuedo-psychological crap, developed by manipulative, narcissistic men, with the specific intention of peddling it to shy, awkward, lonely single men who will try anything to get a girlfriend.

You can not reduce the complexities of human interaction, sexual attraction, and courtship into a fucking easy to follow guide. Women are not fucking automatons, this kind of attitude is insulting and demeaning and will just get you either friendzoned, or fucking laughed at.

Chill. It's just a list of shizz that can make social interraction for those who don't instinctvely consider these things. It's not garrenteed, but it's a stepping stone. This gives those "shy, lonely, awkward single men" a starting point. Once their in the friend zone or have gotten through a few friendly encounters they'll have more confidence. This will help them no end later because they'll be able to get themselves up to scratch. This sin't the "ZOMGORS YUO ARE SO GONNA GET SOME POONINJA" so much as a "This is how you go about not curling up in a corner". Some people need that help, and I kinda feel sorry for you if you think that there's something inherently wrong with helping out those in need.

To reduce and debase the intricacies of romance into a self-help tutorial is sleazy.

This isn't even help, this just tells you that women are fucking cattle that you can only court through manipulation and social engineering.

And you can not learn how to be social from a guide, you need to get out there, try your best and keep failing until you learn it first hand.
All this guide will help you with is masking your personality, and using women, which is fucking wrong.

Oh, and Danny Boy? This is Broadsword. Shut up, or I'll nail your head to the wall.

The complexities of your humour are lost on me.

 

[Simalacrum]

Yep, that's pretty much how you do it!

if you say so? I'm satisfied

seriously though, wow, thanks! very well detailed, and although I already knew most of the points, there were a few key things that I didn't know in that explanation! Also, actually knowing why certain things work also helps, I think it can make a person more confident to do such things

 

[Vaevictusbiyatch]

Hmm, why learn 6 rules, when 1 "Get your coat I've got a knife" works juuuust fine.

But to earnestly synthesise: no set of rules shall a stud make, but subtle hints on what girls like never hurt.

C'mon flamers, at least he's not saying "stroke the rear-meta-dorsal vein to the exact rythem of Light My Fire to induce female groin moisture"...

 

[Lord George]

This are pretty basic rules but can be effective, I learnt most of my good body language from reading about sociopaths funnily enough, other good tips are to always hold your head high above others, as well as your chest, stand up straight and full while pushing out your shoulders, it all makes you seem much more intimidating and more in control then you may really be and is good not only for attracting the fairer sex but also for intimidating the unfair sex. I may write thread on intimidating/strong body posture later actually.

 

[Supreme Unleaded]

Too bad I live in a small town where everyone knows everyone. So yeah theres not many options

 

[Lenny Magic]

I must say, this is all very fascinating. Not that I need it, because I mastered the art of interacting with women a long time ago. You grab them, drag them into a van, blindfold and gag them, and procede to politely socialise with them until the ransom money arrives.

Then await Stockholm Syndrome to run its course.

 

[wildpeaks]

it's obvious that the girl won't actually like them when they start being themselves again.

Unless the guy's only looking for something temporary.

 

[Grand_Pamplemousse]

To reduce and debase the intricaies of romance into a self-help tutorial is sleazy.

This isn't even help, this just tells you that women are fucking cattle that you can only court through manipulation and social engineering.

And you can not learn how to be social from a guide, you need to get out there, try your best and keep failing until you learn it first hand.
All this guide will help you with is masking your personality, and using women, which is fucking wrong.

Oh, and Danny Boy? This is Broadsword. Shut up, or I'll nail your head to the wall.

The complexities of your humour are lost on me.

I quite agree with you.

This guide honestly sounds like it was written by someone with knowledge of social interaction only really gained from Fable 2. In Fable 2 pretty much enough of each expression allowed you to pretty much sleep with anyone. However, girls do actually have different personalities, they are just as complex, mentally, as any male. Complex social interaction cannot be simplified into a step by step guide.

 

[DannyBoy451]

To reduce and debase the intricaies of romance into a self-help tutorial is sleazy.

This isn't even help, this just tells you that women are fucking cattle that you can only court through manipulation and social engineering.

And you can not learn how to be social from a guide, you need to get out there, try your best and keep failing until you learn it first hand.
All this guide will help you with is masking your personality, and using women, which is fucking wrong.

Oh, and Danny Boy? This is Broadsword. Shut up, or I'll nail your head to the wall.

The complexities of your humour are lost on me.

I quite agree with you.

This guide honestly sounds like it was written by someone with knowledge of social interaction only really gained from Fable 2. In Fable 2 pretty much enough of each expression allowed you to pretty much sleep with anyone. However, girls do actually have different personalities, they are just as complex, mentally, as any male. Complex social interaction cannot be simplified into a step by step guide.

At last, some fucking sanity in this thread.

 

[Grand_Pamplemousse]

quite.

Anyway, I'll be at the bus stop, grinding the arm pump expression.

GONNA PICK ME UP SOME CHICKZ0rz

 

[wildpeaks]

I must say, this is all very fascinating. Not that I need it, because I mastered the art of interacting with women a long time ago. You grab them, drag them into a van, blindfold and gag them, and procede to politely socialise with them until the ransom money arrives.

Not to mention "does this rag smells like chlorophorm to you ?" is the best pickup line ever

 

[GruntOwner]

Chill. It's just a list of shizz that can make social interraction for those who don't instinctvely consider these things. It's not garrenteed, but it's a stepping stone. This gives those "shy, lonely, awkward single men" a starting point. Once their in the friend zone or have gotten through a few friendly encounters they'll have more confidence. This will help them no end later because they'll be able to get themselves up to scratch. This sin't the "ZOMGORS YUO ARE SO GONNA GET SOME POONINJA" so much as a "This is how you go about not curling up in a corner". Some people need that help, and I kinda feel sorry for you if you think that there's something inherently wrong with helping out those in need.

To reduce and debase the intricaies of romance into a self-help tutorial is sleazy.

This isn't even help, this just tells you that women are fucking cattle that you can only court through manipulation and social engineering.

And you can not learn how to be social from a guide, you need to get out there, try your best and keep failing until you learn it first hand.
All this guide will help you with is masking your personality, and using women, which is fucking wrong.

OK, when you're about done with the moral high ground, you can come on back down to Earth and realize that some people need to get out in a disguise to know that they are, in fact, capable of talking to folk before they can be themselves. In order to be yourself, you need to be comfortable, and some people can't be comfortable in an unfamiliar situation. This is saying "Here's how you be friendly. It'll make you happy and it'll give them pleasent enough company for the encounter", if there's something wrong with that I'm missing it. If you believe most of the stuff you're saying, you probably live in a cave. Why do bosses offer their employees promotions? So the employee can put his talent to improving the business on a greater scale, making the boss look good. Is that some sort of evil, manipulative atrocity?

While we're here, what's this about using women? It's saying how to be friendly and presentable, it's not saying "Step 7, lead her to a dark alley and make Japan look child friendly". I'm gonna say this one more time in the hopes that it can get through to you this time. In block capitals. STEPPING STONE. A point form which the socially below par can improve upon their self. Not their mask, they drop the mask as soon as they have the confidence to be themselves. This lets them get out, understand it and they can, themselves, get out there and enjoy themselves harmlessly. Yes, that's right, harmlessly. When I talk with friends who are almost as self righteous as you. She vents about whatever, making her feel better, and I enjoy company, plus it means I'm on good terms with them for when they're in a better mood, so we can enjoy each other's company. Am I evil? I want to continue a friendship with her, even if she has her moments, does that single bad quality mean I should give up on her? Or should I do this wonderful little thing called "Tolerance"? After all, my foul, evil, decieving disguise of evil is a false face. It makes up both happy, but it's a lie. Never mind us being happy, it's a lie some of the time so it must be evil. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back home to Bizzarro world. You may wish to join me.


QUESTION TO ALL THE FORUM: If I tell the occasional white lie to maintain a healthy, comortable friendship, am I evil?

 

[jboking]

Thou Shalt Master the Smile

This is the only thing on your list that I have ever had trouble with. When I smile the tips of my mouth start to twinge and move it back into a normal state. I've actually practiced smiling, practiced hard, it just doesn't work for me. Don't get me wrong, I've gotten girls, just this never came into it for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not scowling at her, it's just the normal contented look with maybe a hand wave.

 

[Sewblon]

I can't smile completely; I think it has something to do with the jaw surgery I had last year.

 

[Evilbunny]

Smiling conveys that I'm not dangerous, eh?

Says the person that's never seen me smile. It's like the friggin' Joker.

I have the same issue. I have the "pedosmile" as my friends call it.

 

[cobra_ky]

And you can not learn how to be social from a guide, you need to get out there, try your best and keep failing until you learn it first hand.
All this guide will help you with is masking your personality, and using women, which is fucking wrong.

not necessarily. a lot of people just have trouble expressing their real personality. i know i certainly do; even when i'm deeply engaged in a conversation, i tend not to make eye contact, and i rarely smile consciously because i'm a little insecure about my teeth.

these tips presuppose you're interested in the girl, they're just reminders to express that interest in a non-threatening way. they also apply to social situations in general, not just dating.

also, studies have shown that things like smiling can actually improve your mood. acting confident can actually make you more confident.

 

[DannyBoy451]

Chill. It's just a list of shizz that can make social interraction for those who don't instinctvely consider these things. It's not garrenteed, but it's a stepping stone. This gives those "shy, lonely, awkward single men" a starting point. Once their in the friend zone or have gotten through a few friendly encounters they'll have more confidence. This will help them no end later because they'll be able to get themselves up to scratch. This sin't the "ZOMGORS YUO ARE SO GONNA GET SOME POONINJA" so much as a "This is how you go about not curling up in a corner". Some people need that help, and I kinda feel sorry for you if you think that there's something inherently wrong with helping out those in need.

To reduce and debase the intricaies of romance into a self-help tutorial is sleazy.

This isn't even help, this just tells you that women are fucking cattle that you can only court through manipulation and social engineering.

And you can not learn how to be social from a guide, you need to get out there, try your best and keep failing until you learn it first hand.
All this guide will help you with is masking your personality, and using women, which is fucking wrong.

OK, when you're about done with the moral high ground, you can come on back down to Earth and realize that some people need to get out in a disguise to know that they are, in fact, capable of talking to folk before they can be themselves. In order to be yourself, you need to be comfortable, and some people can't be comfortable in an unfamiliar situation. This is saying "Here's how you be friendly. It'll make you happy and it'll give them pleasent enough company for the encounter", if there's something wrong with that I'm missing it. If you believe most of the stuff you're saying, you probably live in a cave. Why do bosses offer their employees promotions? So the employee can put his talent to improving the business on a greater scale, making the boss look good. Is that some sort of evil, manipulative atrocity?

While we're here, what's this about using women? It's saying how to be friendly and presentable, it's not saying "Step 7, lead her to a dark alley and make Japan look child friendly". I'm gonna say this one more time in the hopes that it can get through to you this time. In block capitals. STEPPING STONE. A point form which the socially below par can improve upon their self. Not their mask, they drop the mask as soon as they have the confidence to be themselves. This lets them get out, understand it and they can, themselves, get out there and enjoy themselves harmlessly. Yes, that's right, harmlessly. When I talk with friends who are almost as self righteous as you. She vents about whatever, making her feel better, and I enjoy company, plus it means I'm on good terms with them for when they're in a better mood, so we can enjoy each other's company. Am I evil? I want to continue a friendship with her, even if she has her moments, does that single bad quality mean I should give up on her? Or should I do this wonderful little thing called "Tolerance"? After all, my foul, evil, decieving disguise of evil is a false face. It makes up both happy, but it's a lie. Never mind us being happy, it's a lie some of the time so it must be evil. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back home to Bizzarro world. You may wish to join me.


QUESTION TO ALL THE FORUM: If I tell the occasional white lie to maintain a healthy, comortable friendship, am I evil?

You do not grow and learn to be yourself by pretending to be someone else, there is no point in getting comfortable in social situation if the whole time you are wearing a mask.
By doing that your're just admiting that you do not like who you are, and want to be with people who wouldn't liek who you are.

What kind of attitude is that?

Sure, if you don't have a lot of experience interacting with people then it helps to know simple stuff like standing up straight, remembering to smile, and not shitting your pants or talking about your 5000-point Space Marine army.

But seriously, by all means try to be more social, make eye contact, smile, be talkative. Just don't stop being yourself, because when you start putting up a faccade because it makes you more comfortable to pretend to be someone you're not, then you have failed and done yourself an injustice.

And the way this pickup-artist, seduction community dross objectifies women is disgusting, sleazy, and embarrasing to all of us. Someone who practices this stuff is setting out with an agenda to treat women as sexual conquests, and manipulate them to do what he want.

So yes, that IS using women.