He spent hundreds of thousands of tax payers money trying to hide what was going on.D_987 said:
The Speaker of the House has been ousted, your thoughts.
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Sadly the people who will make the most political profit from this sorry affair will be the fringe parties like the BNP and nobody really wants that.
The speaker has been in office for 9 years and had the power to change the expenses system and didn't. To quote Nick Robinson, he acted like the the MPs Union steward rather than in the interests of the public. He also attacked people who criticised the policy from the chair which just isnt acceptable. So it was right he should go.
Cameron has come out of the whole debacle with the most kudos and this is another nail in Labour's coffin. The only thing that'll save Brown now is to declare war on Argentina...
The speaker has been in office for 9 years and had the power to change the expenses system and didn't. To quote Nick Robinson, he acted like the the MPs Union steward rather than in the interests of the public. He also attacked people who criticised the policy from the chair which just isnt acceptable. So it was right he should go.
Cameron has come out of the whole debacle with the most kudos and this is another nail in Labour's coffin. The only thing that'll save Brown now is to declare war on Argentina...
People seem to have this opinion that if we have an election, all our problems will go away.sms_117b said:
Unfortunately, judging from the current state of affairs, the Conservatives are probably going to get a majority in the next election - and they're the people who are most responsible for claiming expenses for having their moats cleaned.
Not to mention the fact we'd have David Cameron as Prime Minister, who is the exact type of hypocritical spin-doctor that is degrading the reputation of modern UK politics.
Personally, I don't see why people are getting so righteous or indignant about this.
People cheat the system in every employment and every walk of life; that's humanity for you.
The media would rip them apart.Evilmonkeysniper0182 said:
Don't blame hubris or egoism as the reason why MPs are scared to own up to their mistakes; blame the fact that the moment they use the words "I'm sorry", every tabloid from London to Edinburgh is calling for them to resign.
Again, massive generalising.
I mean, it seems everyone thinks that the Government is some sprawling, inefficient, bureacracy-choked morass.
However, I would argue that our Government is in a much better shape than most of our Western counterparts.
The whole thing is fucked. So many people pulling so much bullshit over the eyes of the public. It's one big scam from start to finish and any legislation made in the mean time is entirely co-incidental. The first hair has been nipped from the boil, but the puss remains.
I think that the whole parliamentary expenses thing has been blown out of proportion. There are a handful of seriously fraudulent claims, but the majority are either claims for what is truly essential for MPs to work, or misguised, like chocolate biscuits. These misguided claims are there due to poor implementation of the correct processing of MP's expenses, which is partly the Speaker's jurisdiction admittedly.
However, I think the entire system should be put into focus. Although it doesn't justify the more fraudulent claims, the public (as portrayed by the Media) seem to be furious that MPs have a salary or a claiming system at all. The claiming system needs to be a working system, as otherwise becoming a member of Parliament would become such a incredibly costly business, with the travel to and from London (imagine if you were a Glaswegian MP), and this would prevent lower-income people from becoming a MP.
Finally, this story has been around for years. YEARS. I mean decades. Whenever the media started to move on it however, there would be a consensus amongst MPs that they were public servants and that their expenses incurred whilst serving was neither a perk or a pleasure, but a necessity. With Gordan Brown at the helm, and a general election imminent, a few MPs Kate Hoey *cough*, thought they could make a name for themselves however at the cost of the other MPs.
Michael Martin was a pretty good speak really in the actual house. and he was also a very good local MP apparently. I just hope Anne Widdicombe gets the jobs so we can really see what a shitstorm we are in.
However, I think the entire system should be put into focus. Although it doesn't justify the more fraudulent claims, the public (as portrayed by the Media) seem to be furious that MPs have a salary or a claiming system at all. The claiming system needs to be a working system, as otherwise becoming a member of Parliament would become such a incredibly costly business, with the travel to and from London (imagine if you were a Glaswegian MP), and this would prevent lower-income people from becoming a MP.
Finally, this story has been around for years. YEARS. I mean decades. Whenever the media started to move on it however, there would be a consensus amongst MPs that they were public servants and that their expenses incurred whilst serving was neither a perk or a pleasure, but a necessity. With Gordan Brown at the helm, and a general election imminent, a few MPs Kate Hoey *cough*, thought they could make a name for themselves however at the cost of the other MPs.
Michael Martin was a pretty good speak really in the actual house. and he was also a very good local MP apparently. I just hope Anne Widdicombe gets the jobs so we can really see what a shitstorm we are in.
I can't remember the exacts of the situation, but our govenor had to reimburse the state(South Dakota, USA) for use of the state's plane(dual engine turbo prop), which he was the pilot of, when he used it to fly to the state boy B-ball in Rapid city I believe(~250 miles from the capial) a couple of years back. It was determined later that he had used part of his time while in RC in a non-offical capacity (visiting friends) and for a political gathering. Still love that he is a Republican and it was in large part a group of republicans that called him on it, with the help of our more left wing newspaper.
Course this was a couple of years ago and I probably got chunks of the story wrong, but the general story is corredt. Also of a side note is that the State was forced to sell the plane, which was very useful to get public officals to the more remote parts of our state.
Course this was a couple of years ago and I probably got chunks of the story wrong, but the general story is corredt. Also of a side note is that the State was forced to sell the plane, which was very useful to get public officals to the more remote parts of our state.