The Spoony One has been ejected from That Guy With the Glasses.

[le_canuck]

And phelous....serious pussy whipped to a girl who was set up to be with him by the execs and have RUINED his videos, seriously, ever since he started crossing over with lupa he's tanked....HARD.

Sorry, but I've seen this little conspiracy pop up in here a few times and it is entirely unsubstantiated apart from hearsay and references to some internal memo that may or may not exist. Personally, I could see both Lupa and Phelous being foolish enough to, for lack of better phrasing, shit where they eat and date a co-worker.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

From what I've found, the issue is that Spoony made a joke about chaining one of Lupa's friends in his basement and raping her and Lupa was offended. As a result, he was suspended from TGWTG for about a month. Then Spoony made a sarcastic apology which just escalated the whole thing; which inevitably resulted in an angry rant on his twitter, in which he basically attacked anyone who tried to talk to him. TGWTG then decided to ban him.

There appears to be multiple sides to this whole thing. Some people claim that his joke wasn't to be taken so seriously, and Spoony (sarcastically) did apologize. Other people also claim that it was Lupa's fault for making such a big deal out of it. However some people also claim that Spoony's behavior was completely out of line. That, dealing with such a sensitive topic, he should have realized that he really hurt someone's feelings and should actually make a sincere apology instead of giving one that could either be taken as real/sarcastic.

Personally, all of this seemed to be a bit much considering that this all started w/ a bad joke; but it was Spoony's behavior afterward that I think did most of the damage.

::Reads Twitter posts of TGWTG staff:: Don't know why anyone's mad at Lupa & Jesuotaku; Allison & Noah have wiped the conversation from their accounts, Hope doesn't want to talk about it, Doug doesn't have an account, there's a few comments from Kyle, Lewis, & Nash, but it's Phelan who seems to be the angry one with a lot to get off his chest. Yes, there seems to be a very long argument with Phelous directed at no one, meaning it was probably Spoony. https://twitter.com/#!/Phelous

Phelan reminds me of one of the kids I used to supervise at a camp when I was a counselor. Generally, he was a good enough kid, had a lot of friends, and wasn't picked on all that much. But there were days when it would happen. He had a bit of a rivalry going with another kid, so one day they both got into this major argument. My co-worker told me that it was the other kid who started the whole thing, but by the time I got there, it was a yelling match between the two. He eventually had enough and screamed so loud at his aggressor, I'm surprised he didn't lose his voice.

I took them both up to the pavilion where we would take kids in trouble. The entire way, he was crying and asking, "Aren't I supposed to stand up for myself when I'm being bullied? That's what everyone tells me, but when I do, I just get punished! It's not fair." He didn't understand why he was in trouble. He didn't get that that everything he did when he was "standing up for himself" was the absolute wrong way to handle things and only served to make things worse. But he's a kid, you can't fault him for that. He didn't have the maturity to see that the way he handled it was what was wrong, that if he hadn't gotten so flustered and aggravated, the situation wouldn't have gotten so bad.

Yeah... Phelan and his "stand up when you see something wrong" attitude reminds me so much of this kid, and it makes me think of how many grown-ass people involved decided that acting like petulant children was the best way to resolve this issue.

 

[renaissance_nerd]

Yeah... Phelan and his "stand up when you see something wrong" attitude reminds me so much of this kid, and it makes me think of how many grown-ass people involved decided that acting like petulant children was the best way to resolve this issue.

exactly

it wasn't the fact that it happened or even so much WHY it happened, it was how everyone involved conducted themselves during and after it happened that alot of people are taking issue with, and rightfully so.

Especially considering we now know it had nothing (well almost noting) to do with the "rape joke" so the flame war was not really defending anything, the TGWTG members that were engaging Spoony just wanted to be dicks.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[DeimosMasque]

Having followed this since the notice on the website I can say a lot of things about it. These are all my opinions after looking at all the facts and watching all the ranting and raving.

1. Spoony and CA came to a mutual decision for him to leave. Holly and others have stated he's still going to be in the 4th Anniversary and that he's even lined up for cameos in videos coming soon.

Spoony himself has already promoted the movie and says how proud he is of his work in it.

CA has even said he's free to come back if he ever wants to. Something that I think in a year or two, he will do. Either way I expect him to be in the 5th anniversary movie as well.

2. Holly was in an impossible position. Lupa was borderline harassing Spoony, Phelous was protecting his GF from attacks, Spoony was being an utter asshat attacking both allies and enemies alike.

Holly had to find some way to keep it calm, and she did her best. But it wasn't going to happen. With Doug and Rob both gone it must have been extremely tough for her and I admire her perseverance and dedication.

When her twitter was "over the spam limit" she directed people to her Facebook page so she could continue to answer peoples questions. She did so rather well, and even if people chose to ignore her answers, I still admire her for the work she did.

3. I'm sure Lupa has received some sort of punishment for her behavior though unless she or Phelous tells us about it, we'll never know. And truth be told, she deserves it. While Spoony was being an ass, Lupa was just fanning the flames to make it worse. He was already gone. Yet she just kept going. This lead both her twitter and tumblr being pretty much just defending her position on Spoony. Bad form.

They will both go one being great contributes to CA and won't being 'quitting' as I've seen rumors try to suggest.

I'll continue watching Phelous's videos and an occasional Lupa one (her style doesn't work for me in most cases)

4. Spoony doesn't need 'help' but he needs to realize that those offering it are coming from a place of kindness. I didn't appreciate him insulting Oancitizen for trying to offer him help. He seems to have realized he went off the deep and is now back to work.

I will continue to watch his Ultima Retrospective even if he puts a Betrayal Counter through the whole thing... which I love. I'll watch Counter Monkey which as an old school table top RPGer I love. And I'll still support him in every way possible.

5. Linkara is "A MAN!" and he wears a pretty hat. He was the first member of CA to actually call for calm and tell people they were citing facts not in evidence. I have liked Linkara for a long time, but this event proved to me that he was every bit the stand up guy that he seemed to be on twitter and in his comment posts.

6. Nash and JO are also awesome, and I probably should check out there stuff more than I already do. I've only watch JO's crossover with OanCitizen and only watched Nash's "New Who" reviews.

They were the other people who called for calm and flat out said they were not involved in this whole fiasco.

7. Spoony fans can be real dicks. They love the guy, so I know their attitude comes from a place of love but really many of them have come of as uninterested in knowing the truth. They just want to white knight for Spoony. As I said earlier Spoony is actually promoting the 4th anniversary film. Second comment thread on his post of the trailer?

Uninformed bitching and whining, claims of conspiracy against him, claims of him being treated unfairly, etc.

8. Scarlett had nothing to do with this. I saw it brought up several times that Lupa and Holly were out to help Scarlett and were getting Spoony fired because of that. Bull... to the Shit.

Scarlett actually stayed out of this whole thing until someone went to Lupa and said "I hate Misogyny but I hate promiscuity as well." Lupa confused, commented on how her having a boyfriend equaled her being promiscuous. Turned out the questioner was talking about Scarlett and her "Internet Flirting."

Lupa wrote a post defending her. Scarlett (admitting she only met Lupa once and wished they were actually friends) thanked her for the defense. Holly reposted it so that people would leave Scarlett alone, Scarlett sent her love through twitter.

Then suddenly the evil woman conspiracy of Holly, Lupa and Scarlett was born. I hear rumors that Spoony internet stalks Scarlett and harasses both her and her friends. I don't entirely believe it's true, but honestly to include Scarlett in this is just grabbing for straws.

Look, here's the truth: Spoony likes to be 'controversial' at times. He's had it rough the last year and a half. CA decided that his way of interacting with the fans wasn't good for their brand. They talked, tried to figure it all out. Spoony decided to leave.

The rest is history. Yes the twitter war was a coincidence. Partly Lupa attacking someone she had decided she didn't like, part Spoony being in a bad place as he responded.

Spoony will grow from it. CA will grow from it. Both will make videos that are funny and awesome... and they will even work together at times. That's all that should be taken from this.

 

[renaissance_nerd]

"snip"

while I agree with most of what you said let me just say this. the friendship triangle of Holly Lupa and Scarlett may in fact very well exist. Lupa and Scarlett and friends, Holly and Lupa are friends, and Holly made a post on Twitter defending her association with Scarlett("I can like Scarlett, there is no rule against that"). I seriously doubt if in fact the three are friends the subject of Noah never came up even once.

As to what role this played if any? Who knows.


I don't know the details of Scarlett's breakup with Noah and frankly i don't care. If either of them has been stalking/bad mouthing/plotting revenge on the other that is simply not cool and should be condemned by everyone.

 

[DeimosMasque]

"snip"

while I agree with most of what you said let me just say this. the friendship triangle of Holly Lupa and Scarlett may in fact very well exist. Lupa and Scarlett and friends, Holly and Lupa are friends, and Holly made a post on Twitter defending her association with Scarlett("I can like Scarlett, there is no rule against that"). I seriously doubt if in fact the three are friends the subject of Noah never came up even once.

As to what role this played if any? Who knows.


I don't know the details of Scarlett's breakup with Noah and frankly i don't care. If either of them has been stalking/bad mouthing/plotting revenge on the other that is simply not cool and should be condemned by everyone.

http://scarlettopia.tumblr.com/post/25676334877/every-new-beginning-comes-from-some-other-beginnings

"I?ve only met Allison once, at MAGFest 2011, and I thought she was really lovely and was sorry we didn?t have more opportunity to become friends."

Sooo by what you said, Scarlett is lying here? That she's really good friends with Allison and is just not admitting it because? What purpose? To get Spoony fired?

If she wanted him fired she could have done it a year and a half ago when they broke up.

 

[renaissance_nerd]

That seems to contradict the things they had been saying over twitter just before all this went down. They spoke to each other as if they had known each other for years. With the internet you don't have to "meet" someone in order to be friends with them.

I won't get into who has a habit of being untruthful as those discussions never end well. I am just making observations based on the things presented to me.

 

[Hawkolf]

I just really hope these relationships aren't tearing the side apart... Spoony leaving isn't really that sad for me, he had some funny stuff bu most of it was nuh... As long as Doug, Linkara and Brad are going on strong I'm okay with it. But those "office romances" really complicate things for them.
E: And whoo, hey. My first post.

 

[DeimosMasque]

On my twitter I've regularly talked to the "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels, AwesomeKong, Harlequinnade and tallestsilver. Do I consider them friends?

Nope... well Harlequinnade because I've had a few phone calls between the two of us.

The point is, talking on the internet doesn't mean "friends willing to jeopardize their jobs to help you make your ex lose their job.

Something, that I pointed out could have been done a year a go if you really wanted to to. Is Holly a friend to Scarlet? No idea. Scarlett mentioned Lupa specifically and said she barely knew her, that's what I'm going with here.

But then there is the real point here, Spoony himself has said that he left CA, not the other way around. Why are people trying to white knight him? He admitted that no fault is to be given to anyone.

Yet Spoony fans are planning boycotts, trashing CA and the like.

Everyone is quoting Sad Panda and saying "Forgetaboutit" yet we all still fight. Why?

Captcha: have an inkling

I do captcha, why don't others?

 

[DeimosMasque]

I just really hope these relationships aren't tearing the side apart... Spoony leaving isn't really that sad for me, he had some funny stuff bu most of it was nuh... As long as Doug, Linkara and Brad are going on strong I'm okay with it. But those "office romances" really complicate things for them.
E: And whoo, hey. My first post.

Hello and Welcome, as Linkara would say. And I agree, the office politics are way too much. They are supposed to be things we never see.. thanks to twitter and tumblr we've become backseat drivers to the whole thing.

 

[Epicspoon]

We aren't talking about me are we? because I have no idea what's going on.

 

[renaissance_nerd]

On my twitter I've regularly talked to the "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels, AwesomeKong, Harlequinnade and tallestsilver. Do I consider them friends?

Nope... well Harlequinnade because I've had a few phone calls between the two of us.

The point is, talking on the internet doesn't mean "friends willing to jeopardize their jobs to help you make your ex lose their job.

Something, that I pointed out could have been done a year a go if you really wanted to to. Is Holly a friend to Scarlet? No idea. Scarlett mentioned Lupa specifically and said she barely knew her, that's what I'm going with here.

But then there is the real point here, Spoony himself has said that he left CA, not the other way around. Why are people trying to white knight him? He admitted that no fault is to be given to anyone.

Yet Spoony fans are planning boycotts, trashing CA and the like.

Everyone is quoting Sad Panda and saying "Forgetaboutit" yet we all still fight. Why?

Captcha: have an inkling

I do captcha, why don't others?

Because of they manner in which it was presented and the timing. Weather or not Lupas tirade about Spoony's "rape joke" had anything to do with it or not it happened within the same time frame,

then his suspension and subsequent twitter war

then the announcement that he was no longer going to be with Channel Awesome


all that considered its not hard at all to assume that


A, Lupa's necroing of a month old joke significantly contributed to his dismissal (her less than professional comments to him on twitter didn't help her case that she had nothing to do with it)

and

B, That is was not his decision but rather Channel Awesome's

for whatever reason Noah never said he was leaving in fact during his twitter escapade he said "If this gets me fired I don't care" or something to that effect, then bang next day the PR announcement of him no longer with CA.


It was bad timing all the way around but an easy conclusion to draw that Noah was indeed fired and that it was caused at least in part by Lupa.

 

[DeimosMasque]

Except even Spoony says he wasn't fired.

 

[infinity_turtles]

8. Scarlett had nothing to do with this. I saw it brought up several times that Lupa and Holly were out to help Scarlett and were getting Spoony fired because of that. Bull... to the Shit.

Scarlet herself had nothing to do with it, but Lupa's original "I can't follow you anymore" was a response to this tweet [https://twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/213797630231326720]

 

[renaissance_nerd]

Except even Spoony says he wasn't fired.

yes NOW he does which is why I have revised alot of my original position on the subject. but while it was happening and for a few days after he said nothing about it. Meanwhile the internet rumor mill was already in full swing.

 

[renaissance_nerd]

8. Scarlett had nothing to do with this. I saw it brought up several times that Lupa and Holly were out to help Scarlett and were getting Spoony fired because of that. Bull... to the Shit.

Scarlet herself had nothing to do with it, but Lupa's original "I can't follow you anymore" was a response to this tweet [https://twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/213797630231326720]

which she didn't unfollow him, but anyway, Spoony was just self reflecting that he wished he was a dog so he didn't have any worries or something like that then he tweeted that, and Allison lost her fudge.

I don't find anything particularly offensive about that tweet, I've said similar things about the breakup with my ex. Lupa on the other hand had to get on her soap box.

 

[DeimosMasque]

It's called being "Online and Drunk" you forget how you're going to act... You instead... rant.

I've done it before.

And Renaissance_Nerd... we agree with lets say 80% of what I said. I sent you a friend request. There was a reason. Someone like you is necessary to remind us that we should always be looking beyond.

We can disagree with that 20% and still agree with the rest. If you think that Scarlett, Lupa and Holly were in on it. That Spoony (free of any NDA or silence order) is lying about that he just mutually left. That's fine.

 

[TIMESWORDSMAN]

Well, I never went through TGWTG for my Spoony fix. I was a raging fanatic about the place a few years back, but then I cut myself off reviews for a year, even Yahtzee, because I felt that my own thoughts and opinions were being squashed in a torrent of others. I think I'm a better person for it too.

Nowadays, I only watch or read reviews of things I'll never see or play, and have leveled my watching to Yahtzee, Linkara, Spoony, and occasionally the Cinema Snob. And this news means that Linkara is pretty much the only decent guy on TGWGT, a site that's really beginning to show it's age.

TGWTG is a website devoted to a bubble, reviewing for entertainment. That's not to say the reviewing for entertainment is in any way new, nor that it is going away. Only that it is no longer fashionable, and all the amateur filmmakers and vlogers will be moving to other climbs.

So Spoony won't be going down with the ship. Whether his dingy can stay afloat however, is a matter for a later date.

 

[renaissance_nerd]

We can disagree with that 20% and still agree with the rest. If you think that Scarlett, Lupa and Holly were in on it. That Spoony (free of any NDA or silence order) is lying about that he just mutually left. That's fine.

I'm not I just wanted to point out that it COULD easily have been true.

 

[Vault101]

Well, I never went through TGWTG for my Spoony fix. I was a raging fanatic about the place a few years back, but then I cut myself off reviews for a year, even Yahtzee, because I felt that my own thoughts and opinions were being squashed in a torrent of others. I think I'm a better person for it too.

never got that with reveiwers...more with all those people on forums...I think you really need to have faith in your own opinion more

though I only watch yahtzee after I've finished said game

[quote/]TGWTG is a website devoted to a bubble, reviewing for entertainment. That's not to say the reviewing for entertainment is in any way new, nor that it is going away. Only that it is no longer fashionable, and all the amateur filmmakers and vlogers will be moving to other climbs.

So Spoony won't be going down with the ship. Whether his dingy can stay afloat however, is a matter for a later date.[/quote]

you think its a trend thats soon to be over?....well I'd say quality wise it does tend to lack on their site...for me Nostalga chick, Todd in the shadows and somtimes oacitizen are the only ones I find consistantly entertaing (call me a fan but I actually thnk nostalga chick is the best one on the site...not only funny but interesting)

but yahtzee is still insanly popular