The Spoony One has been ejected from That Guy With the Glasses.

[Overusedname]

So why is JO still on there?

What did JO do?

She made some pretty homophobic comments. Not only did CA not seem to have a problem with it, many CAers browbeat anyone who was offended and then later bullied a separate site into removing comments regarding the incident.

When did she say anything like that?

 

[renaissance_nerd]

So why is JO still on there?

What did JO do?

She made some pretty homophobic comments. Not only did CA not seem to have a problem with it, many CAers browbeat anyone who was offended and then later bullied a separate site into removing comments regarding the incident.

When did she say anything like that?

It was a long time ago way before this incident.

 

[teh_gunslinger]

And for the love of God stop whining about Scarlet. It was over a year ago, move on with your life.

I always wondered, what the hell happened there?

They broke up and Spoony never got over it. There was an incredible awkward video commentary where he drinks himself into a stupor and then decides to go off on one about the good old days when he was with her. I think it was one of the Twilight films.

Thanks. It was that movie I saw referenced (I think it was removed?) and wondered what the hell that was about. Now I know.

I can't fault him for getting drunk after something like that. Heaven knows I've done it. I didn't post it online though.

 

[JimB]

Whoa...way to make unfitting comparisons here.

sigh

The post you are so upset by is four sentences long. Please read the third one again.

The thing is that the persons involved in the original Tweet, namely Spoony and JesuOtaku, where already done with it. It was something between the two of them. Lupa had no business bringing it up because that "joke" wasnt directed at her.

It was between Mr. Antwiler and Ms. Chapman. It was also between Mr. Antwiler and every other person on the planet with internet connectivity. If he didn't intend it for public consumption and review, he should have sent it in an e-mail or a phone call or something.

That's like me telling one of my friends he's an asshole and he shrugs it off, but then, a month later, a completely different friend of mine flipping off the handle over it.

Good god, this is getting tiresome, but I'll try it again even though no one will answer the bleeding question:

What, exactly, is the statute of limitations on how long a person can find a statement offensive? If a month is too long--if twenty-eight days crosses the line after which you are no longer allowed to be angry about something--then where is the line?

Channel Awesome people have and still do pull off more distasteful jokes in their videos, and I don't see Lupa writing huge ass blog posts about that you don't make fun of abortion, for example.

She's not required to. Maybe she thinks abortion jokes are funny (I do). Maybe she thinks the vague jokes you're referencing cross the line twice and therefore become funny, while Mr. Antwiler's joke didn't. Who knows why she doesn't complain?

Of course she wouldn't cause she knows that she would loose a confrontation with Doug.

Oh. You know why she does and doesn't do everything. Of course.

Reading all your posts so far, it really seems you're out to demonize Spoony while constantly defending Lupa. Even thought it's clear that neither of them is innocent in this.

I do not care about innocence or guilt. They are meaningless to me in this discussion. I care about fairness. I think a lot of the really vocal advocates for Mr. Antwiler are deliberately skewing events to create a narrative in which there's a need to take sides at all, as if this is some kind of ongoing war between good and evil; and they're doing it out of some sense of defensiveness that comes off as guilty-minded to me. It bothers me that people would intentionally create divisions just so they can paint themselves as winners when not one damned person in this mess has won anything.

 

[Atmos Duality]

I've heard that LordKat's been blaming Spoony for ruining his chances to be some big game review star or something. Is there any truth in that?

Yes there is truth to that, we discussed it about 7 pages back.


in a nutshell Spoony and Joe 1st E3 wasn't the most professional trip they ever did and made a few mistakes. LordKat blames those mistakes on him getting denied an interview with somebody important The reason Lordkat gave for being denied the interview was because he was affiliated with Channel Awesome as well. (Spoony and Joe). LordKat has held a grudge ever since.


that is the short short version.

Alot in the gaming industry is about who you know and who knows you. But still carrying a grudge for 2 years? good gravy.

Considering that Spoony and Joe came back from E3 just a couple of weeks before this shitstorm hit, there is no weight to his claim. If Channel Awesome (or any of its members/affiliates) were Blacklisted, they'd still be Blacklisted.

More to the point: If Spoony got LordKat blacklisted, by association (indirect), then why isn't Spoony still blacklisted (by being the direct offender)? Even if the action did get him blacklisted at the time it obviously couldn't have hindered his career in the long term, which makes his claim all the more petty (as you said; holding a grudge for 2 years)

Seeing how LordKat overreacts to negative events, and his willingness to shit all over someone over the smallest things (Look for his rant about John Funk's Madden 2011 review; it was directly related to his banning from the Escapist) the biggest person to blame for hindering LordKat's career, is LordKat; not Spoony.

Having watched the Lupa and LordKat videos (with a heaping mound of salt), it definitely puts more into perspective his attitude towards the event; he told Spoony to kill himself to drum up bad press and admits that he's just milking it for ad-hits.

You can draw your own conclusions about his attitude, but if I were an advertiser or media network, I would stay far away from this guy because he's a ticking bomb.

Spoiler: The Videos, starting at 2

 

[Karadalis]

snip.

1st:

Making an unfair comparison just to say yourselfe its not fitting doesnt suddenly make it any better. Thats the same BS as saying "I dont want to be disrespecting..." and then saying something HIGHLY disrespecting.

2nd:

The right time to be offended by something is the moment you see it. There is no delayed reaction to being offended.. either you are offended when you see it or youre not. Youre not suddenly offended after being silent for an entire month. And seeing how twitter works, Lupa must have done a bit of digging SEARCHING for something to be offended about. Highly suspicious.

3rd:

You do not come across as looking for fairness... at all. Or else you wouldnt blame it all on spoony alone, wich you do. You attack the guy but shoot down any other argument that would put others involved into a bad light, and yes it is a conflict because things where said and done that where of a certain hostile quality. Also this is not about taking spoonys side.. as i mentioned before he did enough wrong on his own part to be considered just as guilty, but he has the benefit of the doubt by having aparantly heavy mental issues. Thats all.

4th:

About distastefull or sexist jokes?

As mentioned before.. NCs abortion joke.. autism joke... Sages entire goldenboy review and several of his other anime reviews or spooning with spoony have never gotten lupas pantys in a twist.

Theres alot to be offended about on CA if youre a female. But as i said i dont see Lupa rallying against any of these things. I wonder why?

See this is why i cant believe that she was rightfully offended, this and her gloating after spoony got his suspention. If i had been in his shoes i would have left CA too seeing as nothing was done against lupas behavior. Holly didnt step up and told lupa to can it seeing that lupa even went on lordkats stream and being a smug little ballerina. Not to mention her huge blog post.

5th

I simply cant stand hypocrisy, at all. Either everyone is held to the same standards or there are no standards, but not that half assedness that has been going on. Maybe im simply disapointed about CA *shrugs*

 

[German Borbon]

well as it turns out Spoony has bipolarity type 2 wich makes him have episodes of severe depression and sometimes rage. He is already getting treated and seems to be more in peace with the TGWTG team.good for him, I like his videos

 

[le_canuck]

See this is why i cant believe that she was rightfully offended, this and her gloating after spoony got his suspention. If i had been in his shoes i would have left CA too seeing as nothing was done against lupas behavior. Holly didnt step up and told lupa to can it seeing that lupa even went on lordkats stream and being a smug little ballerina. Not to mention her huge blog post.

See, I listened to some of the stream she did with LordKat and don't entirely agree (although I only listened to about a third of it, so maybe I missed something). Lupa came off pretty rationally and not gloaty at all, at least based on what I heard. I can understand that she more cited the "Chain you up in my basement" joke as an example of how he'd been acting the past month, rather than just bringing it up randomly, but who knows. For all I know, that could just be backpedaling and PR.

Regardless, I think the CA execs should have slapped out a big huge gag order on everyone involved until the whole mess was cleaned up. Brad Jones, in particular, has been exemplarary: All he's said about the issue as far as I'm aware is that Noah is a friend and he owes a lot to him. Same goes for Lindsay, who's said precisely nothing about the issue.

 

[MrBrightside919]

That was an amazing post. I agree with you 100%, everyone made mistakes in this. But LordKat... I think his actions were far, far force. Telling Spoony to SHOOT HIMSELF? And I visited LordKats site and he doesn't really apologize for it either. "Yes, telling Noah that he should take his own life was a terrible thing, but that's not what I'm apologizing for right now."
That's just... So fucking wrong. I've heard that LordKat's been blaming Spoony for ruining his chances to be some big game review star or something. Is there any truth in that? But be that as it may, LordKat lost the little respect I had for him (I never found him that entertaining) and even more. He must've known Spoony had depression issues. That was just so damn cruel.
I too am really interested in how Doug will take this but whether I want to see a video about it... I don't know, I kinda hope they would deal these things in private, like this should've been dealt in the very first place. Curious little child in me of course would love to know every single gossip but for the better of Channel Awesome I hope they deal these things in private.

With the way things were going with him yelling at his fans/watchers and giving everyone the finger "verbally" on his Twitter, his eruption was only a matter of time. The provoking only made things happen prematurely and made things a lot messier. Honestly, after seeing everything i've seen about this, I don't think I want to see anything other than "Spoony is getting the help he needs...we wish him all the best".

I'm not sure if Lupa deleted her blog post, but i've seen an archive of the page and it's REALLY tough to read. I couldn't even finish it...

LordKat's video where he rips into Spoony was incredibly difficult to watch...like before, I couldn't get through it. Like you, I was never a fan of his and maybe Spoony is actually to blame for him not getting interviews, but this verbal abuse is only digging LK into a deeper hole, which I hope leads to his departure from the internet...i'm still under the impression that people wouldn't give him interviews because no one knew/cared who he was...same goes for Lupa...

Spoony's twitter is an absolute mess...

The levels people will stoop to never ceases to amaze me...and disgust me...

With the way things are going, it might only be a matter of time before we get the suicide tweet...and later the tweet from his brother saying "Noah took his own life last night"...

That's not something I ever want to see...

There's no denying that Spoony is in desperate need of help...and like a lot of fans have been saying, I wish him all the best and really hope things get better for him...

 

[DudeistBelieve]

From what I've found, the issue is that Spoony made a joke about chaining one of Lupa's friends in his basement and raping her and Lupa was offended. As a result, he was suspended from TGWTG for about a month. Then Spoony made a sarcastic apology which just escalated the whole thing; which inevitably resulted in an angry rant on his twitter, in which he basically attacked anyone who tried to talk to him. TGWTG then decided to ban him.

There appears to be multiple sides to this whole thing. Some people claim that his joke wasn't to be taken so seriously, and Spoony (sarcastically) did apologize. Other people also claim that it was Lupa's fault for making such a big deal out of it. However some people also claim that Spoony's behavior was completely out of line. That, dealing with such a sensitive topic, he should have realized that he really hurt someone's feelings and should actually make a sincere apology instead of giving one that could either be taken as real/sarcastic.

Personally, all of this seemed to be a bit much considering that this all started w/ a bad joke; but it was Spoony's behavior afterward that I think did most of the damage.

::Reads Twitter posts of TGWTG staff:: Don't know why anyone's mad at Lupa & Jesuotaku; Allison & Noah have wiped the conversation from their accounts, Hope doesn't want to talk about it, Doug doesn't have an account, there's a few comments from Kyle, Lewis, & Nash, but it's Phelan who seems to be the angry one with a lot to get off his chest. Yes, there seems to be a very long argument with Phelous directed at no one, meaning it was probably Spoony. https://twitter.com/#!/Phelous

Phelan reminds me of one of the kids I used to supervise at a camp when I was a counselor. Generally, he was a good enough kid, had a lot of friends, and wasn't picked on all that much. But there were days when it would happen. He had a bit of a rivalry going with another kid, so one day they both got into this major argument. My co-worker told me that it was the other kid who started the whole thing, but by the time I got there, it was a yelling match between the two. He eventually had enough and screamed so loud at his aggressor, I'm surprised he didn't lose his voice.

I took them both up to the pavilion where we would take kids in trouble. The entire way, he was crying and asking, "Aren't I supposed to stand up for myself when I'm being bullied? That's what everyone tells me, but when I do, I just get punished! It's not fair." He didn't understand why he was in trouble. He didn't get that that everything he did when he was "standing up for himself" was the absolute wrong way to handle things and only served to make things worse. But he's a kid, you can't fault him for that. He didn't have the maturity to see that the way he handled it was what was wrong, that if he hadn't gotten so flustered and aggravated, the situation wouldn't have gotten so bad.

Yeah... Phelan and his "stand up when you see something wrong" attitude reminds me so much of this kid, and it makes me think of how many grown-ass people involved decided that acting like petulant children was the best way to resolve this issue.

Wait so the kid in your story got in trouble because he was yelling? Like not even throwing down, just screaming? What kind of nazi summer camp do you work for yo?

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

From what I've found, the issue is that Spoony made a joke about chaining one of Lupa's friends in his basement and raping her and Lupa was offended. As a result, he was suspended from TGWTG for about a month. Then Spoony made a sarcastic apology which just escalated the whole thing; which inevitably resulted in an angry rant on his twitter, in which he basically attacked anyone who tried to talk to him. TGWTG then decided to ban him.

There appears to be multiple sides to this whole thing. Some people claim that his joke wasn't to be taken so seriously, and Spoony (sarcastically) did apologize. Other people also claim that it was Lupa's fault for making such a big deal out of it. However some people also claim that Spoony's behavior was completely out of line. That, dealing with such a sensitive topic, he should have realized that he really hurt someone's feelings and should actually make a sincere apology instead of giving one that could either be taken as real/sarcastic.

Personally, all of this seemed to be a bit much considering that this all started w/ a bad joke; but it was Spoony's behavior afterward that I think did most of the damage.

::Reads Twitter posts of TGWTG staff:: Don't know why anyone's mad at Lupa & Jesuotaku; Allison & Noah have wiped the conversation from their accounts, Hope doesn't want to talk about it, Doug doesn't have an account, there's a few comments from Kyle, Lewis, & Nash, but it's Phelan who seems to be the angry one with a lot to get off his chest. Yes, there seems to be a very long argument with Phelous directed at no one, meaning it was probably Spoony. https://twitter.com/#!/Phelous

Phelan reminds me of one of the kids I used to supervise at a camp when I was a counselor. Generally, he was a good enough kid, had a lot of friends, and wasn't picked on all that much. But there were days when it would happen. He had a bit of a rivalry going with another kid, so one day they both got into this major argument. My co-worker told me that it was the other kid who started the whole thing, but by the time I got there, it was a yelling match between the two. He eventually had enough and screamed so loud at his aggressor, I'm surprised he didn't lose his voice.

I took them both up to the pavilion where we would take kids in trouble. The entire way, he was crying and asking, "Aren't I supposed to stand up for myself when I'm being bullied? That's what everyone tells me, but when I do, I just get punished! It's not fair." He didn't understand why he was in trouble. He didn't get that that everything he did when he was "standing up for himself" was the absolute wrong way to handle things and only served to make things worse. But he's a kid, you can't fault him for that. He didn't have the maturity to see that the way he handled it was what was wrong, that if he hadn't gotten so flustered and aggravated, the situation wouldn't have gotten so bad.

Yeah... Phelan and his "stand up when you see something wrong" attitude reminds me so much of this kid, and it makes me think of how many grown-ass people involved decided that acting like petulant children was the best way to resolve this issue.

Wait so the kid in your story got in trouble because he was yelling? Like not even throwing down, just screaming? What kind of nazi summer camp do you work for yo?

*Used to work for.

I don't really know any camp where two campers can scream their heads off slinging insults at each other and the staff wouldn't get involved to try to calm things down. I mean, camps have rules about respecting one another so that everyone can have fun.

You seem to be under the impression it was about the high decibel level. Thaaaat's incorrect. It was about stopping a quickly escalating situation before they throw down.

 

[Fappy]

With the way things are going, it might only be a matter of time before we get the suicide tweet...and later the tweet from his brother saying "Noah took his own life last night"...

That's not something I ever want to see...

God damn, way to kill the thread! D:

I think everyone was trying NOT to think of that possibility >.>

Then again I suppose someone had to say what we were all thinking.

 

[MrBrightside919]

With the way things are going, it might only be a matter of time before we get the suicide tweet...and later the tweet from his brother saying "Noah took his own life last night"...

That's not something I ever want to see...

God damn, way to kill the thread! D:

I think everyone was trying NOT to think of that possibility >.>

Then again I suppose someone had to say what we were all thinking.

This thread kind of needed to stop before it got to page 10...

That kind of thing is always a possibility, I mean, do any of us really know what is going on inside his head right now? No...all we can do on the internet is speculate, defend or hate upon...yeah, he's been acting horribly lately, but for all we know, he could be a completely different person when he isn't on the internet...

I know some of you are having fun with this whole thing, but you still have to remember that this is someone's life...

 

[DudeistBelieve]

From what I've found, the issue is that Spoony made a joke about chaining one of Lupa's friends in his basement and raping her and Lupa was offended. As a result, he was suspended from TGWTG for about a month. Then Spoony made a sarcastic apology which just escalated the whole thing; which inevitably resulted in an angry rant on his twitter, in which he basically attacked anyone who tried to talk to him. TGWTG then decided to ban him.

There appears to be multiple sides to this whole thing. Some people claim that his joke wasn't to be taken so seriously, and Spoony (sarcastically) did apologize. Other people also claim that it was Lupa's fault for making such a big deal out of it. However some people also claim that Spoony's behavior was completely out of line. That, dealing with such a sensitive topic, he should have realized that he really hurt someone's feelings and should actually make a sincere apology instead of giving one that could either be taken as real/sarcastic.

Personally, all of this seemed to be a bit much considering that this all started w/ a bad joke; but it was Spoony's behavior afterward that I think did most of the damage.

::Reads Twitter posts of TGWTG staff:: Don't know why anyone's mad at Lupa & Jesuotaku; Allison & Noah have wiped the conversation from their accounts, Hope doesn't want to talk about it, Doug doesn't have an account, there's a few comments from Kyle, Lewis, & Nash, but it's Phelan who seems to be the angry one with a lot to get off his chest. Yes, there seems to be a very long argument with Phelous directed at no one, meaning it was probably Spoony. https://twitter.com/#!/Phelous

Phelan reminds me of one of the kids I used to supervise at a camp when I was a counselor. Generally, he was a good enough kid, had a lot of friends, and wasn't picked on all that much. But there were days when it would happen. He had a bit of a rivalry going with another kid, so one day they both got into this major argument. My co-worker told me that it was the other kid who started the whole thing, but by the time I got there, it was a yelling match between the two. He eventually had enough and screamed so loud at his aggressor, I'm surprised he didn't lose his voice.

I took them both up to the pavilion where we would take kids in trouble. The entire way, he was crying and asking, "Aren't I supposed to stand up for myself when I'm being bullied? That's what everyone tells me, but when I do, I just get punished! It's not fair." He didn't understand why he was in trouble. He didn't get that that everything he did when he was "standing up for himself" was the absolute wrong way to handle things and only served to make things worse. But he's a kid, you can't fault him for that. He didn't have the maturity to see that the way he handled it was what was wrong, that if he hadn't gotten so flustered and aggravated, the situation wouldn't have gotten so bad.

Yeah... Phelan and his "stand up when you see something wrong" attitude reminds me so much of this kid, and it makes me think of how many grown-ass people involved decided that acting like petulant children was the best way to resolve this issue.

Wait so the kid in your story got in trouble because he was yelling? Like not even throwing down, just screaming? What kind of nazi summer camp do you work for yo?

*Used to work for.

I don't really know any camp where two campers can scream their heads off slinging insults at each other and the staff wouldn't get involved to try to calm things down. I mean, camps have rules about respecting one another so that everyone can have fun.

You seem to be under the impression it was about the high decibel level. Thaaaat's incorrect. It was about stopping a quickly escalating situation before they throw down.

No no, it just perplexes me they could get in trouble BEFORE getting physical.

Everytime I've ever had to deal with authority figures it was always after a punch was thrown.

 

[JimB]

You know, I was doing that thing I always do where I go point by point responding to your post, but then I got here and realized you've said everything you need to say about your opinion in this one line, and therefore everything I need to respond to.

There's a lot to be offended about on Channel Awesome if you're female.

This idea of yours that offense is somehow divided along gender lines--that women should be offended by Channel Awesome content but men shouldn't--is crap. It's stupid, sexist crap, and I sincerely hope it's nothing more than you misspeaking yourself in a moment of haste. Things are offensive or not because of how they grate on a person's sensibilities, not because of the person's gender, and your expectation that Ms. Pregler somehow conform to your preconceptions of what a woman should find offensive is intolerable.

 

[renaissance_nerd]

well as it turns out Spoony has bipolarity type 2 wich makes him have episodes of severe depression and sometimes rage. He is already getting treated and seems to be more in peace with the TGWTG team.good for him, I like his videos

alot of people are forgetting that Bipolar II also has episodes of hypersexuality, which explain his off color remarks to females.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersexuality

 

[renaissance_nerd]

With the way things are going, it might only be a matter of time before we get the suicide tweet...and later the tweet from his brother saying "Noah took his own life last night"...

That's not something I ever want to see...

God damn, way to kill the thread! D:

I think everyone was trying NOT to think of that possibility >.>

Then again I suppose someone had to say what we were all thinking.

This thread kind of needed to stop before it got to page 10...

That kind of thing is always a possibility, I mean, do any of us really know what is going on inside his head right now? No...all we can do on the internet is speculate, defend or hate upon...yeah, he's been acting horribly lately, but for all we know, he could be a completely different person when he isn't on the internet...

I know some of you are having fun with this whole thing, but you still have to remember that this is someone's life...

I seriously don't think it has gotten to that point, or if it has thank goodness it was not followed though. Suffers of Bipolar II have a very high rate of suicide attempts so its quite possible Noah has tried once already. However I think we are nearing the end of the tunnel, he is starting treatment, he split from a stressful situation and overall his tweets since the big blowup has been rather upbeat and calm. Maybe the incident with TGWTG was his rock bottom and now he can start to get better.


I am so glad he lives with Miles, Miles being a deputy Sheriff has the authority to place Noah under 72 hour mental health watch if he feels things are getting out of control.