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I'm... Shinigami? Really? Is it really that hard to make something up that you have to copy an anime? I haven't watched the Black Butler, so I've no clue how much of it did you copy, but you could've at least changed the names and.. We're doing a medieval RP, are we not? Suits aren't medieval. The setting for the Black Butler isn't medieval, from what I've gathered, so using it for the story.. kinda ruins it? I mean, Shinigami Dispatch Team? Maybe I am being narrow-minded as the CAPTCHA would have me believe, but I can't help but feel you could've done so much more and better than what you did.

Forgive me if I seem rude, it's not my intention, I just feel that the development you chose indeed belongs in an anime, and not in a medieval RP.
 

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Happy Now Nastok
You make it sound like I'm a bad guy. I just feel you should've consulted with the rest of us. When I wanted to change Stonefuse, I asked if anyone minded. You could've done the same. I hope you at least have a copy of that post, it would be fine, in my opinion, if you just edited it a bit. Talk to us, that's why this thread exists.

On a not-so-unrelated note, add an OOC spoiler tag in that post, at least for the time being.
 

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Happy Now Nastok
You make it sound like I'm a bad guy. I just feel you should've consulted with the rest of us. When I wanted to change Stonefuse, I asked if anyone minded. You could've done the same. I hope you at least have a copy of that post, it would be fine, in my opinion, if you just edited it a bit. Talk to us, that's why this thread exists.

On a not-so-unrelated note, add an OOC spoiler tag in that post, at least for the time being.
Now I have to rewrite the whole bloody thing, since I didn't keep a copy of the post spare. It currently reads, "Work In Progress"

Here is a little something for when we get to my level, which is connected in some degree to what is happening in the current level.

The level is basically a proper training mission for Aleister. For most of the floor, he will be seperated from the group, and during the times that he does reappear, he will be under the guise of himself as a Reaper, will look differently, and will go by the name of Nathaniel Krieger. Although there will be points in which he contacts the group as Aleister.

It will be when the group defeats the boss of the floor, that Nathaniel reveals himself to be Aleister.

More about the whole Reaper thing, should be explained during this level.

Is this okay with everyone?
 

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Evrant said:
NastoK said:
I just feel you should've consulted with the rest of us. When I wanted to change Stonefuse, I asked if anyone minded. You could've done the same. I hope you at least have a copy of that post, it would be fine, in my opinion, if you just edited it a bit. Talk to us, that's why this thread exists.
1st) I give provisional approval for the idea so there was some discussion. I presumed that since other characters (like Stonefuse) were changing (and the exact details of the change were being kept under wraps), it would be acceptable for other characters to change if the player wished it. Evrant wanted the details to remain secret.

2nd) Now I never saw the post (it was deleted before I was actively on the forum) but I do agree that terminology like "Shinigami Dispatch Team" does not match the setting and therefore should be changed. The core concept however seems sound to me for the following reasons: 1) The idea did not unbalance the game and 2) it is a character story line enhancement idea (e.x. His character became more interesting).

To fix it, perhaps change the wording. For example, maybe change "shinigami" to a more western medieval term (such as Daemon, Demon, Devil, or Reaper - the last being almost identical in flavor to Shinigmai (neutral death servant). No idea how to make "Dispatch Team" more acceptable.

Just my views.
 

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hiei82 said:
Evrant said:
NastoK said:
I just feel you should've consulted with the rest of us. When I wanted to change Stonefuse, I asked if anyone minded. You could've done the same. I hope you at least have a copy of that post, it would be fine, in my opinion, if you just edited it a bit. Talk to us, that's why this thread exists.
1st) I give provisional approval for the idea so there was some discussion. I presumed that since other characters (like Stonefuse) were changing (and the exact details of the change were being kept under wraps), it would be acceptable for other characters to change if the player wished it. Evrant wanted the details to remain secret.

2nd) Now I never saw the post (it was deleted before I was actively on the forum) but I do agree that terminology like "Shinigami Dispatch Team" does not match the setting and therefore should be changed. The core concept however seems sound to me for the following reasons: 1) The idea did not unbalance the game and 2) it is a character story line enhancement idea (e.x. His character became more interesting).

To fix it, perhaps change the wording. For example, maybe change "shinigami" to a more western medieval term (such as Daemon, Demon, Devil, or Reaper - the last being almost identical in flavor to Shinigmai (neutral death servant). No idea how to make "Dispatch Team" more acceptable.

Just my views.
Thanks for you support, I'm currently rewriting the post, although it is slightly altered, plus it wont include the pictures from Kuroshitsuji (Black Butler).
 

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Evrant said:
hiei82 said:
Evrant said:
NastoK said:
I just feel you should've consulted with the rest of us. When I wanted to change Stonefuse, I asked if anyone minded. You could've done the same. I hope you at least have a copy of that post, it would be fine, in my opinion, if you just edited it a bit. Talk to us, that's why this thread exists.
1st) I give provisional approval for the idea so there was some discussion. I presumed that since other characters (like Stonefuse) were changing (and the exact details of the change were being kept under wraps), it would be acceptable for other characters to change if the player wished it. Evrant wanted the details to remain secret.

2nd) Now I never saw the post (it was deleted before I was actively on the forum) but I do agree that terminology like "Shinigami Dispatch Team" does not match the setting and therefore should be changed. The core concept however seems sound to me for the following reasons: 1) The idea did not unbalance the game and 2) it is a character story line enhancement idea (e.x. His character became more interesting).

To fix it, perhaps change the wording. For example, maybe change "shinigami" to a more western medieval term (such as Daemon, Demon, Devil, or Reaper - the last being almost identical in flavor to Shinigmai (neutral death servant). No idea how to make "Dispatch Team" more acceptable.

Just my views.
Thanks for you support, I'm currently rewriting the post, although it is slightly altered, plus it wont include the pictures from Kuroshitsuji (Black Butler).
Here, try this - the closer you are to western fantasy the better

[img/]http://www.2-clicks-swords.com/images/image/Grim-Reaper-scythe.jpg[/img]

Or just google image search ("Grim Reaper Fantasy") - that's how i found it

And It's not complete support: NastoK makes a good point about the terminology - I love a good anti-hero style character (dark powers and all) - and I do likes me some Anime/manga - but his point of western philosophy holds best. You may want to use the old faustian bargain trope to help justify it - you gain power but at a terrible cost.
 

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[b/]IMPORTANT: Because Stonefuse destroyed the magic tree, any fire magic you have is back.[/b]
 

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Does anyone mind if I have Aleister reap Calgradni's soul?

If so, don't outright kill her, have her regenerate or something.
 

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Does anyone mind if I have Aleister reap Calgradni's soul?
Damien might have a problem with it. And what exactly do you mean by 'Reaping', like you suddenly take her soul or she has to be killed first?
 

hiei82

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Does anyone mind if I have Aleister reap Calgradni's soul?
I am personally hoping for Damien to get the final blow - he is the one who has a particular hate for dragons (the whole home destroyed by dragon magic thing... kinda why I included her as the final boss fight - advance his story and all)
 

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Redryhno said:
Evrant said:
Does anyone mind if I have Aleister reap Calgradni's soul?
Damien might have a problem with it. And what exactly do you mean by 'Reaping', like you suddenly take her soul or she has to be killed first?
She can be near death, trying to ask for mercy, but then I have Aleister/Nathaniel come in and finish the job. Sorry my post is taking so long to rewrite, its difficult.
 

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hiei82 said:
1st) I give provisional approval for the idea so there was some discussion. I presumed that since other characters (like Stonefuse) were changing (and the exact details of the change were being kept under wraps), it would be acceptable for other characters to change if the player wished it. Evrant wanted the details to remain secret.
Page 4, posts 107~111 :)
hiei82 said:
2nd) Now I never saw the post (it was deleted before I was actively on the forum) but I do agree that terminology like "Shinigami Dispatch Team" does not match the setting and therefore should be changed. The core concept however seems sound to me for the following reasons: 1) The idea did not unbalance the game and 2) it is a character story line enhancement idea (e.x. His character became more interesting).

To fix it, perhaps change the wording. For example, maybe change "shinigami" to a more western medieval term (such as Daemon, Demon, Devil, or Reaper - the last being almost identical in flavor to Shinigmai (neutral death servant). No idea how to make "Dispatch Team" more acceptable.
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I hope you at least have a copy of that post, it would be fine, in my opinion, if you just edited it a bit.
And that's one of the two points I made, the other one being the suit. Though I could've been more specific as you were hiei.

Seriously though, Evrant, that's the second time you delete a post just because I say something. DON'T DO THAT. Wait for others to give their opinions, it's much easier to edit a post or two than to rewrite that long of a post.

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Does anyone mind if I have Aleister reap Calgradni's soul?

If so, don't outright kill her, have her regenerate or something.
Don't mind.
 

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hiei82 said:
Evrant said:
Does anyone mind if I have Aleister reap Calgradni's soul?
I am personally hoping for Damien to get the final blow - he is the one who has a particular hate for dragons (the whole home destroyed by dragon magic thing... kinda why I included her as the final boss fight - advance his story and all)
Okay, how is this for compromise, Damien can kill her, but Aleister/Nathaniel gets the soul okay.

The new form of the post is up.

I've had a long day, I've spent most of it rewriting a single post. Currently my mood is unhappy but understanding as to why people would call BS on it. Just read it, and see what you think.
 

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hiei82 said:
To fix it, perhaps change the wording. For example, maybe change "shinigami" to a more western medieval term (such as Daemon, Demon, Devil, or Reaper - the last being almost identical in flavor to Shinigmai (neutral death servant). No idea how to make "Dispatch Team" more acceptable.

Just my views.
"Spirit Hunter." I though of that in literally 5 seconds.

In the setting I just use "spirit" as a catch-all term. Demons didn't exist (in so much as hell doesn't exist), but spirits can be destructive on their own, or created for a specific purpose like the floor guardians.

Now to actually read the posts...
 

hiei82

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Evrant said:
hiei82 said:
Evrant said:
Does anyone mind if I have Aleister reap Calgradni's soul?
I am personally hoping for Damien to get the final blow - he is the one who has a particular hate for dragons (the whole home destroyed by dragon magic thing... kinda why I included her as the final boss fight - advance his story and all)
Okay, how is this for compromise, Damien can kill her, but Aleister/Nathaniel gets the soul okay.

The new form of the post is up.

I've had a long day, I've spent most of it rewriting a single post. Currently my mood is unhappy but understanding as to why people would call BS on it. Just read it, and see what you think.
1) Only 1 minor change I ask for in the post:
I'm okay with red text. [b/]I'm okay with bold text. [/b]Please don't use both [b/]interchangeably[/b] like this. It makes my eyes hurt. I suggest cutting the bold.

Otherwise looks like great fun to me.

2) Suggestion: you may want to expand upon the post to include a downside to the powers - as far as I saw, you only got benefits from the deal. maybe have the powers draw on your own life force or something to that effect. It would create a more thematic effect and reduce the feeling of power creep I get out of the post. It would also provide for more character development in the future. Again, just an idea

3) I leave the discussion about souls and killing to you and Redryhno - I made the villain a dragon for his Damien's character development. The compromise is between you two, not me.
 

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Asclepion said:
hiei82 said:
To fix it, perhaps change the wording. For example, maybe change "shinigami" to a more western medieval term (such as Daemon, Demon, Devil, or Reaper - the last being almost identical in flavor to Shinigmai (neutral death servant). No idea how to make "Dispatch Team" more acceptable.

Just my views.
"Spirit Hunter." I though of that in literally 5 seconds.

In the setting I just use "spirit" as a catch-all term. Demons didn't exist (in so much as hell doesn't exist), but spirits can be destructive on their own, or created for a specific purpose like the floor guardians.

Now to actually read the posts...
works for me. I just listed suggestions
 

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I don't have a problem with it, but when you said 'reap', the first thing I thought of was my forbidden word and it seemed a bit OP from it. I'm going to have to have a talk with Veritas though, he's going to get a few of us hurt from that last stunt of his...
 

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hiei82 said:
2) Suggestion: you may want to expand upon the post to include a downside to the powers - as far as I saw, you only got benefits from the deal. maybe have the powers draw on your own life force or something to that effect. It would create a more thematic effect and reduce the feeling of power creep I get out of the post. It would also provide for more character development in the future. Again, just an idea
The downside of the powers will be explained later okay.
 

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Evrant said:
hiei82 said:
2) Suggestion: you may want to expand upon the post to include a downside to the powers - as far as I saw, you only got benefits from the deal. maybe have the powers draw on your own life force or something to that effect. It would create a more thematic effect and reduce the feeling of power creep I get out of the post. It would also provide for more character development in the future. Again, just an idea
The downside of the powers will be explained later okay.
Thanks for fixing the coloring thing. my eyes thank you.
 

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hiei82 said:
Evrant said:
hiei82 said:
2) Suggestion: you may want to expand upon the post to include a downside to the powers - as far as I saw, you only got benefits from the deal. maybe have the powers draw on your own life force or something to that effect. It would create a more thematic effect and reduce the feeling of power creep I get out of the post. It would also provide for more character development in the future. Again, just an idea
The downside of the powers will be explained later okay.
Thanks for fixing the coloring thing. my eyes thank you.
The reason why I did that whole colouring thing, was to point out key terms. I suppose I didn't consider the adverse side effects.