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Heart of Darkness

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Long response ahead. You have been warned.

-Full 3D World
The series might be taking steps in that direction if 4th gen is any indication, but I'd rather have stylized sprites rather than a game in full 3D that'll only look crappy in five years. Besides, the Pokemon games already do have some openendedness in terms of sidequests, albeit not a lot. Remember that the games need to be accessible; making it more like a sandbox does not necessarily make it so, especially for the younger players.

-Character Customization
I agree, but the main focus for me is the customization of my team, not my character. I could care less about how the hero looks.

-Elemental Starters
How about not? Rock-, Steel-, and Ghost-types would be horrible overpowered due to their strengths against Normal attacks. At the very least, I'd like to see what Platinum did and change the starter's type from singular to dual--but no more damn Fire/Fighting Starters.

-Real Time Battles
What's wrong with turn-based? It adds more strategy and allows for item and skill management, rather than just spam your strongest attacks. Well, the spamming is still true now, but I blame the horrible Trainer rosters for that...

-Rivals
I agree on this. Or, at the very least, make the rival(s) more three-dimensional. Put in a character that hates you or something.

-Hobos
No.

-Difficulty Settings
Yes. Very much wanted.

-New Continent
I'd prefer the ability to go to every continent more than this, actually. And making all the Pokemon available in one game defeats the whole purpose of the versions.

-Protagonists
From the show? No. From the games? Yes, especially if we can go to the other continents. Having the ability to fight Red, Blue, Green, Gold, Silver, Kris, Brendan, May, Dawn, and Lucas at the height of their potential would be simply AMAZING.

-HM Usage
Meh, it only gets annoying when there's a lot of repetition to do in one small area. It's been improved since Red/Blue/Green/Yellow, at least. I'd actually like the ability to remove HM moves without visiting the Move Deleter instead.

-Streamlined Battles
Not something I have a problem with, unless there are two or more battle conditions active.

-Wild Pokemon Variety
While I agree with this, do remember that it's supposed to simulate a natural environment and to encourage exploration. Flora and fauna don't change drastically over small differences, so why should the Pokemon games be any different? If you don't like it, then Cut and Repel are your friends.

-Trainer Pokemon Variety
Yes, definitely. Especially in the Gyms. I'd like the Fire Gym Leader to have one non-Fire type to completely screw with the strategy once in a while, or, more ideally, have more Gym Leaders like Blue from Gold/Silver/Crystal. Same with the standard trainers; give the Hikers more than Fighting and Rock Pokemon, etc.

-Balance Elemental Weaknesses
They're already balanced. Your issue comes more from stats rather than from elemental modifiers. Besides, some Pokemon can survival one Super-Effective hit if their corresponding defense stat is high enough (or, in the case of Blissey and other tanks, HP).

-Fainting
It's here to add strategy to the game, namely that of restraint. Besides, how can you code in the ability to capture a defeated enemy without making the mechanic (a) repetitive and annoying for EVERY enemy and (b) easy enough to call up? Once the battle ends, the battle processing ends, returning the player back to the map. How can you call up the function to do so when the defeated Pokemon no longer exists?

-Trade Evolution
Again, this ties into the point of having the versions in the first place: social interaction (or buying more than one copy of the game/system). And, typically, you'll be trading with your friends and just trading back, anyway. Yeah, the NPC's Pokemon's nicknames suck, but you do have the option to not trade with them.

Well, those are my ideas and comments, mixed in with yours.
 

OiXerxes

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I have a lot to list here.

-A lot and I mean A LOT more replay value... How much did Gold and Silver keep your attention after you beat the Elite Four? A while. Why? Because KANTO was 3 ft east of JOHTO! You had about only 10 things that you could do, so we want more!
-MORE CONTINENTS
-I don't see the need for real time...SSBB is the reason for that (Pokemon=strategy + character's skill while SSBB=Little strategy + Skill)
-Balance the Amount of pokemon in each type
-Balance out the elemental weaknesses
-An alternative way of earning money than a. Selling nuggets or b. fighting trainers
-Good god! Get rid of fainting!
-Trading=A no longer required phenomenon
-More uses for multiplayer: Co-op (Join a friends game Borderlands style)
-Make a special area that has pokemon, that you can't catch, conform to to the average level of your party, so that it's easy to train your lowest party member. I don't know it could be some weird temple that makes you take off your bag before you enter with your pokemon. The pokemon inside could be any of the 493(?) besides those forbidden at the Battle Tower.

-I agree with a more streamlined use of HMs and the more streamlined battles, especially when I go back and play Silver... but I feel a full 3-D world is kind of contrived

-If a 3-D world is necessary, don't be like colusseum and get rid of routes, instead do the exact opposite and make them bigger, broader, introduce a wider world than we've ever seen, but keep some characteristics from the old games.
-Also if the game is 3-D, give us a 3-D topographical map when we open it up or when we decide to use FLY...just because it would look cool

...some of my arguments are kinda invalid
 

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[quote/]-Rivals
I agree on this. Or, at the very least, make the rival(s) more three-dimensional. Put in a character that hates you or something[/quote]

Um, Gold Silver wasn't good enough for you?

He didn't like you.

At all.

And was pissed off that you were awesome and he was shit.


He actually grew though and understood pokemon.

Though he had stolen pokemon so he couldn't be league champion.

Sad days.
 

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tellmeimaninja said:
I want to be a Pokemon Hunter. There's Rangers, trainers, breeders; I want to mount a Charizard on my wall.
You sir, are a very agreeable person
 

Heart of Darkness

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Plurralbles said:
[quote/]-Rivals
I agree on this. Or, at the very least, make the rival(s) more three-dimensional. Put in a character that hates you or something
Um, Gold Silver wasn't good enough for you?

He didn't like you.

At all.

And was pissed off that you were awesome and he was shit.


He actually grew though and understood pokemon.

Though he had stolen pokemon so he couldn't be league champion.

Sad days.[/quote]
He wasn't really a three dimensional character. And, while Silver is my favorite rival so far, he could still use some work. I mean, why does he steal a Pokemon in the first place? Why does he hate you for no apparent reason ('cause your awesome isn't a good reason)? Why is he such a douche? At least with Blue it's because he's the grandson of the leading professor of Pokemon; we don't know why Silver acts the way he does.
 

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DeadlyYellow said:
There are what.... Seventeen elemental types. I think they're as balanced as they're gonna get.

Though I still don't understand the difference between ground and rock.
Rock would be rock (obvs). Ground is more like dirt. Also straight-up rock pokemon are not immune to electric attacks; only the ground-element is.

An example of a ground-only pokemon would be Sandshrew. Clearly not rocky in any way, like Geodude or Onix (which incidentally are ground and rock), but still... :D
 

A Weary Exile

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Agreed on all points, you said all of the things I've been saying for years along with some extra stuff. Now if only Gamefreak would pull their heads out of their asses and see that there is real money to be made here, but we know they'll just keep making the same thing over and over.

Also, I want Rock Smash to go die in a hole. Damn near useless in battle and only sometimes helpful outside of battle, the same can be said of Rock Climb.
 

EBHughsThe1st

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I was thinking something with the battles of Pokemon Battle Revolution and a big open 3D world to explore. The pokemon could follow you around like in the new HeartGold and SoulSilver.
 

Sinisterair

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Tootmania said:
Dr Poochenstein said:
There is a better version of pokemon than that, you play it in real life, using dogs.
Yeah, but when your beloved pooch gets "K.O.ed" and "faints" in real life, a quick stop at the nearest Poke Center doesn't always revive them...

Also I've been jabbing mine with just about every kind of rock I can find and it still won't evolve...
DONT JAB UR DOG WITH ROCKS!!!!! u gotta huck it at him hard enough for him to make a noise....then u hear hun hu hun hu hun hu! ur dog evolved! to angel dog!
 

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blakfayt said:
Tootmania said:
OT: I want a lawnmower.
Or something like a permanent Repel.
That can be turned off.

There is nothing more annoying than when almost all of your pokemon are dead, and you're trying to get to the nearest PokeCenter, then BAM!
Random encounter
You mean like maybe we can actually SEE the pokemon in the grass? and how about we do like they do in the show, where there are pokecenters in every plains, woods, and any other odd ass place.
U ever notice how in the first season AKA the real pokemon, the only pokemon centers were like a 2hr tripp because ash couldnt fight for shit at the right times, he always stumbled apon them in the most remote locations and the people seemed surprised when nobody was ever there, and when there was one in a town it was always like 3 towns over.
 

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ParadoxBG said:
Rock would be rock (obvs). Ground is more like dirt. Also straight-up rock pokemon are not immune to electric attacks; only the ground-element is
But dirt is made from the erosion of rock and minerals with a mix of organic matter...
 

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archerboy106 said:
HOW COME THE POLICE DONT STOP THE ROCKET!>!?
Pokemon continents are based off of Japanese provinces, right? And Japanese police departments have a reputation for being incompetent, right? Put two and two together, I guess...
 

Souplex

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How to make a good Pokeymanns game:
Make it so level grinding is not a straight path to victory.
Continue with the gold/silver expansion pack motif (Each game has the previous games areas and pokeymanns.)
 

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Heart of Darkness said:
-Balance Elemental Weaknesses
They're already balanced. Your issue comes more from stats rather than from elemental modifiers. Besides, some Pokemon can survival one Super-Effective hit if their corresponding defense stat is high enough (or, in the case of Blissey and other tanks, HP).
Thank you. There are so many people who don't understand that.

My Blissey can take three Close Combats and skip away with a smile on her face. You just need more ATK...
 

Mikkaddo

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The ability to catch Evees in the wild no matter what continent. Seriously, unless it's the first generation games that is one of the HARDEST to get your damn hands on . . . sure the roster is up past about 500 now but still . . . I find tons of Pikachus after the national Dex, but the ONLY way to get an Evee is to go to a special garden at a mansion, and try again and again each day to talk to the man that owns it untill he FINALLY decides he saw an Evee and then go catch the ONLY ONE there, and try again and again to get him to ONCE MORE say Evee and go catch the one.

There's NO reason for this. If the rest of the 500 some odd are available out in you know . . . the huge WORLD you made for this game, why not that one? it would make sense if it was something no one really paid attention to like odditch. But not Evee . . . it's powerful, it's awesome and it has SO MANY EVOLUTIONS all of which are amazing. I've had to put in the work of something akin to 20 hours to make sure I have enough Evees to actually get a collection together. (oh yeah, that garden . . . when he fianlly says whatever pokemon you want, it's a SMALL chance to find it, but better then 0, so isntead of 0 it's like a .023444 chance or some absurd number)
 

BabySinclair

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Um... when a wild Pokemon attacks I want to be able to use my hunting license and put one in between its eyes and I wouldn't care if some of them were endangered, Big Game Hunter: Pokemon Edition all the way!
 

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Tootmania said:
Quite a big snip!
Basically all the ideas you've made but in a MMORPG format. Leagues can be like top players in that frontier and it can be noted whether or not you've arrived from another region.
 

Heart of Darkness

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Flying-Emu said:
Heart of Darkness said:
-Balance Elemental Weaknesses
They're already balanced. Your issue comes more from stats rather than from elemental modifiers. Besides, some Pokemon can survival one Super-Effective hit if their corresponding defense stat is high enough (or, in the case of Blissey and other tanks, HP).
Thank you. There are so many people who don't understand that.

My Blissey can take three Close Combats and skip away with a smile on her face. You just need more ATK...
Even if they never use it for competition purposes, people who play the Pokemon games should at least look at what makes the metagame so complex...Hell, even those who don't play it. It'd shut them up about how "Ooh, the pokemon gaemz never change w/ ea. genration, theyre kiling the industry!!"
 

chozo_hybrid

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Pokemon sells like hot cakes, why don't they just make an MMO somehow and then you'd be able to face other people all the time and such. Expansions for new places and Pokemon, you'd have a winner there.