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Ieyke

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Now that I'm not in class, allow me to expound upon the facts of my original post.

The greatest villain of all is Doctor Victor Von Doom.



Doctor Doom's appearance was representative of a change in the portrayal of "mad scientists" to full-fledged villains, often with upgraded powers. Doom is also emblematic of a specific subset of supervillain, referred to as the "megavillain". These supervillains are genre-crossing villains who exist in adventures "in a world in which the ordinary laws of nature are slightly suspended"; characters such as Professor Moriarty, Count Dracula, Auric Goldfinger, Hannibal Lecter, Lex Luthor and Darth Vader, also fit this description. He has been compared to William Shakespeare?s characters Richard III and Iago; all of them "are descended from the 'vice' figure of medieval drama", who address the audience in monologues detailing their thoughts and ambitions.

Described as "iconic", Doom is one of the most well-received supervillains of the Marvel universe, as well as one of the most recurring; in his constant battles with heroes and other villains, Doom has appeared more times than any other villain.
Doctor Doom was even one of the inspirations for Darth Vader.

Doctor Doom is commonly used as a villain to oppose entire teams of superheroes, like The Avengers, and Doom tends to be more than capable of dealing with them all simultaneously.
It has been said that in crossover events between Marvel and DC, Doctor Doom is never used as a villain because Marvel considers him to be so powerful that DC couldn't contribute characters to meaningfully contribute to the battle against him (Superman, for example, would be rendered almost useless due to his weakness to magic.).


Tony Stark once evaluated the armors of his various enemies, with the Iron Man armor always rating higher, with the one exception of Doctor Doom.

Tony Stark:
People say I'm a genius, but Doom operates on a level I can only begin to comprehend. I have a feeling that if Doom ever put his mind to it, he could make a suit of armor that would demolish mine like tinfoil.


Doctor Doom is also an incredibly powerful sorcerer, and has been named as one of the possible successors to Doctor Strange's position as Sorcerer Supreme of Earth (Doctor Strange himself has been described as "the mightiest magician in the cosmos", and as "more powerful by far than any of your fellow humanoids" by Eternity, the sentience of the Marvel Universe..)
Indeed, when Doctor Strange was forced to step down from his position as Sorcerer Supreme, Doom elected not to accept the position....because the responsibility of maintaining cosmic balance wasn't worth such a "minor" increase in power.

Beyond Doom's status as a megavillain cultural icon, super genius, and ultra-powerful sorcerer, are the actual reasons I like Doom.

Doctor Doom KNOWS he is the rightful ruler of mankind. He doesn't just incorrectly THINK it. He KNOWS, and he's RIGHT.
Doom has managed to conquer the Earth and various nations several times, he's done it in alternate timelines, the future, the past, and in the present where he was then overthrown.
Every time Doctor Doom manages to conquer the world it immediately begins to experience improvements.
As President Of The United States in the year 2099, Doom fought against the corrupt corporations who controlled all aspects of every day life in 2099. Doom recreates S.H.I.E.L.D., assigns agents to take down the Red Market (illegal trade in humans for experimentation). He also made the X-Men 2099 the law enforcers of Halo City, a place where mutants and humans could live in peace. He appointed Punisher 2099 to be Minister Of Punishment and Director Of S.H.I.E.L.D., and appointed Spider-Man 2099 to the post of Minister Of Super-Human Affairs.
Under Victor Von Doom's leadership the planet Earth has progressed closer and closer to world peace than it has through any other means.

Doom is merciless to his enemies, but he's a benevolent ruler to the people under his protection and rule. He has gone so far as to once having sacrificed his own life to bring back to life all of the citizens of his own country, Latveria.

Von Doom, as the supreme monarch of Latveria, has diplomatic immunity from the law of other countries, and has even had Captain America appointed as his bodyguard.
In fact, Captain America and Doctor Doom actually have great respect for each other, despite being opponents quite often.
Captain America once found himself without his costume, for some reason (it had been destroyed or something), and he somehow wound up in Latveria, where he encountered Doctor Doom....who provided Captain America with a replacement of his uniform which Doom had on hand for him.
Doom has a very strict sense of honor, and will keep his word no matter what (you just have to be careful as to what his exact word actually IS). Doom keeps a Mauser auto-pistol as a sidearm for the sole purpose of executing enemies Doom deems to be dishonorable or unworthy of execution by his armor's weapon systems or his magic.
He has saved Captain America from drowning because Captain America had earlier saved his life, and on another occasion he thanked Spider-Man for saving him from terrorists attacking him in an airport by allowing him to leave alive despite Spider-Man subsequently insulting him. His code of honor also means that he will not attack a respected opponent who is weakened or at a severe disadvantage, as he regards any victory resulting from such circumstances as hollow and meaningless. He has even on several occasions battled opponents who were intent on killing the Fantastic Four, for no other reason than the fact that he does not want the ultimate defeat of the Fantastic Four to come from anyone's hands but his own.
Doctor Doom also basically went to Hell and back to save his mother's soul.

Doom's only real weakness is his arrogance and his hatred for Reed Richards. Exploiting these things tends to be how he is eventually defeated.


^(It should be noted that he secretly WAS sabotaged, though by Ben Grimm, not by Reed Richards as he believes.)


Doctor Doom, as with many of the best villains, treads suspiciously close to being a hero.
Indeed, I'd say that he's both the greatest villain AND a great hero.
Doom has done some seriously horrific shit though, in the interests of his own power. While he may ultimately strive to be the thing that brings peace and protection to the world, his methodology and steps towards achieving that goal are almost completely merciless.

He's the type of guy who wouldn't hesitate to burn down an orphanage if he knew it would somehow grant him some sort of power that MIGHT very well be the difference between saving the world or having it destroyed one day.

But, on the other hand, if the orphanage was under his rule and thus part of his responsibility, and there was no potentially game-changing power to gain from it burning, Doom would rescue the orphans, put out the fire, save the day, and probably order a new high tech fire-proof orphanage be built in its place.

But then, if Doom was on some OTHER major time-sensitive quest, and stopping to help the orphans would cause him to fail...he'd probably let them burn.

Doom is a very complicated guy.
 

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Alek_the_Great said:
-Deathstroke response snip-
You... basically explained why Slade from Teen Titans just barely makes "honorable mention" on my list... I mean, sure, after delving more into Deathstroke the character, he became more of a badass than I've ever imagined... However, I cannot forget that if it wasn't for Teen Titans on Cartoon Network, I probably would not have invested as much time as I did trying to learn more about "Deathstroke The Terminator"...

(Plus, his appearance in Arrow was both unexpected, on my part, and awesome at the same time...)
 

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Trying to avoid any that have already been mentioned:



This guy was the perfect Moriarty in my opinion and one of the best villains I've seen in a live action TV show. He was at once a super genius and absolutely insane, it was impossible to predict what he was going to do. Brilliantly played by Andrew Scott.
 

Ieyke

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FPLOON said:
Alek_the_Great said:
-Deathstroke response snip-
You... basically explained why Slade from Teen Titans just barely makes "honorable mention" on my list... I mean, sure, after delving more into Deathstroke the character, he became more of a badass than I've ever imagined... However, I cannot forget that if it wasn't for Teen Titans on Cartoon Network, I probably would not have invested as much time as I did trying to learn more about "Deathstroke The Terminator"...

(Plus, his appearance in Arrow was both unexpected, on my part, and awesome at the same time...)
Deathstroke is Batman....except better in basically every way and not a hero...per se (which makes sense, since that was the premise behind his creation).
He's an opponent/adversary/antagonist, certainly, but I wouldn't really call him a villain.
He's more of an anti-hero or just...kinda...neutral. Mercenary.

 

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Ieyke said:
FPLOON said:
Alek_the_Great said:
-Deathstroke response snip-
You... basically explained why Slade from Teen Titans just barely makes "honorable mention" on my list... I mean, sure, after delving more into Deathstroke the character, he became more of a badass than I've ever imagined... However, I cannot forget that if it wasn't for Teen Titans on Cartoon Network, I probably would not have invested as much time as I did trying to learn more about "Deathstroke The Terminator"...

(Plus, his appearance in Arrow was both unexpected, on my part, and awesome at the same time...)
Deathstroke is Batman....except better in basically every way and not a hero...per se (which makes sense, since that was the premise behind his creation).
He's an opponent/adversary/antagonist, certainly, but I wouldn't really call him a villain.
He's more of an anti-hero or just...kinda...neutral. Mercenary.
That's still basically why I consider him a honorable mention, in terms of Teen Titans cartoon canon... since he's still kinda anti-neutral despite that series making him seem "fully" villain (and lacking any of his original backstory, let alone a backstory for "Slade" himself) for the most part...

But, yeah... In general, he's not really a "villian" villian...
 

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Ratty said:
It doesn't get much better than Frank Gorshin's Riddler. Though John Glover was no slouch in the role either. I could take or leave the other interpretations.
Yes! I grew up with the 60's Batman, and that has always been the definitive Batman for me. And he has the best villains, The
Riddler was always my favourite, and I considered him to be Batman's nemesis.

Bookworm
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King Tut.
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Iznogoud from the comic of the same name. He is a very horrible person, but kinda sympathetic since he never ever wins.

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I was totally on their side. Any villain who as a zombie-virus and teir first thought is to use it to make monster frogs is ok in my book. I lost interest in te series after Wesker died. I wasn't upset that he died, but I always considered the series to be his story. He has the most of a character-arc in them, even if it's very confusing (why does he hate Chris, again?) It makes more sense in Umbrella Chronicles, though, and I love that game.


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Ieyke

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FPLOON said:
Ieyke said:
FPLOON said:
Alek_the_Great said:
-Deathstroke response snip-
You... basically explained why Slade from Teen Titans just barely makes "honorable mention" on my list... I mean, sure, after delving more into Deathstroke the character, he became more of a badass than I've ever imagined... However, I cannot forget that if it wasn't for Teen Titans on Cartoon Network, I probably would not have invested as much time as I did trying to learn more about "Deathstroke The Terminator"...

(Plus, his appearance in Arrow was both unexpected, on my part, and awesome at the same time...)
Deathstroke is Batman....except better in basically every way and not a hero...per se (which makes sense, since that was the premise behind his creation).
He's an opponent/adversary/antagonist, certainly, but I wouldn't really call him a villain.
He's more of an anti-hero or just...kinda...neutral. Mercenary.
That's still basically why I consider him a honorable mention, in terms of Teen Titans cartoon canon... since he's still kinda anti-neutral despite that series making him seem "fully" villain (and lacking any of his original backstory, let alone a backstory for "Slade" himself) for the most part...

But, yeah... In general, he's not really a "villian" villian...
I'd love to see Slade and Wade fight. Watching Deathstroke try to deal with Deadpool would just be amazing.
Just saying.
 

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Let's see;

1- Kane (pre Command & Conquer 4)

2- Agent Maine (Red vs Blue)

3- Darth Bane (Star Wars EU)

Runner up would be Light from Death Note.
 

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Lieju said:
Yes! I grew up with the 60's Batman, and that has always been the definitive Batman for me.
Same here! Was so excited to hear a DVD release of the series will finally be happening soon. Did you catch the "Return to the Batcave" TV reunion movie they did a little over 10 years ago? It was surprisingly really good, with a mix of scripted antics with Adam West/Burt Ward/Frank Gorshin/Julie Newmare inter-cut with a humorous but interesting reenactment of the history of the show.



PS- Also yeah gotta love King Tut. And it's a shame Bookworm never made another appearance.
If you want to see more Roddy "Bookworm" McDowell though I highly recommend checking out his work in the original Planet of the Apes series[footnote]He was in everything except the second movie and the cartoon show, both of which even most hardcore PotA fans will tell you were pretty awful. Personally I'd also recommend skipping the final movie in the original pentalogy "Battle for the Planet of the Apes", and the live action TV show as well. Unless you wind up getting very into the series.[/footnote]. Guy was brilliant at letting the Ape make-up enhance rather than hinder his performance. He practically was the franchise, especially after the gut-punch ending to Escape from the Planet of the Apes when Kim Hunter left the series.
 

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Black Mage from 8-bit Theater. Were he a real person he would have no redeeming qualities. He is only a legendary hero because the local monarch was too much of a dumbass to know they were lying, yet never improves through the entire series. He is constantly trying to kill his partners, once sacrificed nine children for power (allegedly), took over Hell (for twenty minutes but still), and wants nothing more than to end all in creation. Luckily, then, the universe has chosen him to be its personal chew toy. The first person he met (Fighter) is an absolute moron that he can't get rid of no matter how many times he stabs him in the head. Thief put BM under a contract he can't get away from until the quest is over. Red Mage's plans often throw BM under a bus somehow along with just annoying him. Yet the trooper that is Black Mage just keeps trying.
 

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Kefka, the crazy-ass clown that destroyed an entire world and gained the power of a god!

Also:
I admit it, it's because of the song.
 

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Evil overlord of a criminal corporation, part brilliant, loves being evil. I love the part when Chuck has convince a "reformed" Alexei to take up villainy again!



Whimsical, light-hearted, but maniacal and deadly AI!



Dark Overlord, Frozen Blade that steals souls, Icy fortresses. I like this guy's style! I thought the whole "let the heroes win some fights and get stronger, so that when I kill them and resurrect them they will be very powerful lieutenants for my cause" thing was an interesting perspective.
 

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Well, I have to go with Darth Vader for being incredibly iconic and for reasons that many have already said.
Also, Doc Ock was my favorite Spidey villain, and Spiderman is my favorite superhero.
Plenty here I already agree with so here's some new ones:
THE MIGHTY MONARCH!!!

[small]"Butterflies... don't... sting."[/small]
See the thing I like about this guy, is that he knows he's evil and freely admits to being a horrible person. But he truly believes that his monstrous actions will create a better society. When he's presented with clear evidence to the contrary, he actually changes his mind. Not something you see in most villains which I thought was a nice change of pace.
Since this is a gaming site, I'll throw in one from a game:

Basically, Dr. Wallace Breen is just a smug asshole. He's a guy who loved the idea of power and agreed to help sell out the entire human race just to get a little. He just goes on and on about how awesome the Combine are while they drain our resources and slowly drive humans (and everything else on Planet Earth) to extinction or assimilation. It's hard to tell whether he's delusional, or if he wanted to keep the tenuous authority he had, but it didn't take me long before I wanted to bury my crowbar in this fucker's teeth. I never got that chance in Half Life 2, but I will take watching him explode in a dark energy reactor and falling 300 stories as a consolation prize.
 

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Ratty said:
Lieju said:
Yes! I grew up with the 60's Batman, and that has always been the definitive Batman for me.
Same here! Was so excited to hear a DVD release of the series will finally be happening soon. Did you catch the "Return to the Batcave" TV reunion movie they did a little over 10 years ago? It was surprisingly really good, with a mix of scripted antics with Adam West/Burt Ward/Frank Gorshin/Julie Newmare inter-cut with a humorous but interesting reenactment of the history of the show.
I never saw that, I need to check it out.


Ratty said:
PS- Also yeah gotta love King Tut. And it's a shame Bookworm never made another appearance.
If you want to see more Roddy "Bookworm" McDowell though I highly recommend checking out his work in the original Planet of the Apes series[footnote]He was in everything except the second movie and the cartoon show, both of which even most hardcore PotA fans will tell you were pretty awful. Personally I'd also recommend skipping the final movie in the original pentalogy "Battle for the Planet of the Apes", and the live action TV show as well. Unless you wind up getting very into the series.[/footnote]. Guy was brilliant at letting the Ape make-up enhance rather than hinder his performance. He practically was the franchise, especially after the gut-punch ending to Escape from the Planet of the Apes when Kim Hunter left the series.
The 70's Planet of te Apes was one of the series I grew up with, actually. I never noticed the actor was the same, though.

I don't think any of the adaptations have captured the spirit of the original novel, though, and how it handled the idea of what separates us from animals.
 

Ieyke

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TheMann said:
THE MIGHTY MONARCH!!!

[small]"Butterflies... don't... sting."[/small]
Okay, yea. He's amazing.
I completely forget he's a "villain" most of the time.
 

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Okay, got ninja'd on Griffith, but Berserk still has one other fantastic villain from an often overlooked story arc.
What makes her special is that she's not some sadist or power-hungry madman. She's just a kid who had a shitty childhood, and accidentally gained power beyond what she could cope with. She takes everything that makes kids evil bastards, and amplifies it about a thousandfold. She doesn't see herself as evil, rather she lets her friends have fun and not be bothered by stupid grownups. And in light of the conditions she grew up in, she has a very good point. But as we see, it all went tits-up the moment she gained her powers.



Marche Radiuju

If you start to think about it, he can be seen as the ultimate villain of the story of FF Tactics Advance, despite being the main character. He's not trying to save the world, he's trying to get away from it. Which he intends to do by essentially destroying it. And he'll tear down any happiness or contentment his close ones have acquired to do so.
 

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Handsome Jack, the Joker and Queen Chrysalis are among my favorites.
I also deeply enjoyed the Sha of Fear from Mists of Pandaria, since it had such an AMAZING VOICE; perfect for a living embodiment of fear itself.
Speaking of WoW, the Lich King is fantastic; also amazingly voiced, but his schemes and presence are felt as you travel throughout Northrend, and beating him is even more satisfying when you know his past as Arthas.
 

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KazeAizen said:
Psychotic bubblegum.
Oh yeah, almost forgot about Cell, the smooth operator to Kid Buu's rabid animal. The only villain in that series to ever force his opponents to break the honoured tradition of one-on-one fights even if you outnumber the enemy, and the first Minecraft player ever. Can't wait to see him in the abridged series.
 

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For me there are two categories of good villains.
1)The Villain that I'm afraid of. He's intimidating, skillful and always has a plan. That's the kind of guy that I would be scared to meet in a fight.
2)The Villain that I see myself following. He fights for a believable cause, know how to talk and convince people without screaming, yelling or going for unnecessary theatrics.
And there's only one villain who fits both categories.
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Holy shit was Amon an amazing villain. He's scary, he's skillful, he always has a plan, he wipes the floor with Korra and her friends and, honestly, if I was just a regular guy in Avatar Universe I could see myself following him. And he's also voiced by Steve Blum.
 

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Hmm. Looks like I get to put in some original picks instead of jumping on the bandwagon as usual. Yay! I could probably think of more with a little effort, but these are off the top of my head and represent a fair cross section all on their own. Honorable mention to Bayaz from The First Law trilogy, because OMG that fucking guy. Alas, no picture.








You could probably argue that the last two are anti-heroes, but don't be that guy.