The Walking Dead Comics and TV Series

[Raxi]

I've been reading Walking Dead for a while. Issue 79 will be out soon, the first episode of the walking dead was brilliant, very close to the story line and all that jazz. But the second episode made me rage really hard. They're already starting to blur the story, plus I saw zombies climbing fences and holding rocks. Really? What next? The zombies learning how to use an M4?

Yeah the learning zombies were bugging me too. Even down to that one that properly climbed the fence after Rick. I at least expected it to just faceplant when it fell. -.-;
Oh and $20 says that Dixon takes the place of The Governor.

Anyway, the beginning of ep 2, seeing Lori whoring around in the grass made me realllllly happy to know what happens to her.

All I'm saying is that the only person CAPABLE of playing the Governor is the magical man Danny Trejo. And they're going to run this series into the ground for me. I'll stick to Kirkman's Comics(Invincibles is great too btw)

 

[ProfessorLayton]

I've read the first four of those medium sized books. Like... there's the comic, and then there's the collection of comics, and then there's the collection of the collection, and I've read the first four collections of comics. I need to get around to reading the rest of them, though.

And I saw the first episode of the TV show and I was surprised by how good it was. I'm actually really excited to watch the rest of the show because at the rate it's going it could be one of the best shows on television if it wasn't already.

 

[viperthejedi]

I've been reading Walking Dead for a while. Issue 79 will be out soon, the first episode of the walking dead was brilliant, very close to the story line and all that jazz. But the second episode made me rage really hard. They're already starting to blur the story, plus I saw zombies climbing fences and holding rocks. Really? What next? The zombies learning how to use an M4?

Yeah the learning zombies were bugging me too. Even down to that one that properly climbed the fence after Rick. I at least expected it to just faceplant when it fell. -.-;
Oh and $20 says that Dixon takes the place of The Governor.

Anyway, the beginning of ep 2, seeing Lori whoring around in the grass made me realllllly happy to know what happens to her.

I never liked her in the comics and now I really dislike here in the tv show. But she is just a means to an end. It's all about Rick after all. Wonder if we'll get a taste of Michonne next season. Boy I hope so.

 

[viperthejedi]

I've been reading Walking Dead for a while. Issue 79 will be out soon, the first episode of the walking dead was brilliant, very close to the story line and all that jazz. But the second episode made me rage really hard. They're already starting to blur the story, plus I saw zombies climbing fences and holding rocks. Really? What next? The zombies learning how to use an M4?

Though the zombies probably aren't "learning" to climb the fences or hold rocks. They have probably done that some time in their life so the zombies have that memory in the back of their head even if they don't understand it. That sort of stuff doesn't really bother me that much when it's just simple things like climb a fence or hold a rock. A zombie flying a helicopter, now that would be another thing.

 

[Raxi]

I've been reading Walking Dead for a while. Issue 79 will be out soon, the first episode of the walking dead was brilliant, very close to the story line and all that jazz. But the second episode made me rage really hard. They're already starting to blur the story, plus I saw zombies climbing fences and holding rocks. Really? What next? The zombies learning how to use an M4?

Though the zombies probably aren't "learning" to climb the fences or hold rocks. They have probably done that some time in their life so the zombies have that memory in the back of their head even if they don't understand it. That sort of stuff doesn't really bother me that much when it's just simple things like climb a fence or hold a rock. A zombie flying a helicopter, now that would be another thing.

I sympathize, I truly do. But the climbing fences thing totally ruins a part of the later story. A huge part. I don't even feel like watching it tonight.

 

[Icarion (aka Stockholm)]

I wish I could find a stream of it online cause I don't have AMC but I do read the comics and I have to say, THE BEST zombie comic ever!!! Every turn of the page I have no idea what's gonna happen next and I'm ALWAYS on the edge of my seat!!! You really fall in love with the characters.....and then they die!

Use Hulu man, here's the link http://www.hulu.com/the-walking-dead

 

[viperthejedi]

I've been reading Walking Dead for a while. Issue 79 will be out soon, the first episode of the walking dead was brilliant, very close to the story line and all that jazz. But the second episode made me rage really hard. They're already starting to blur the story, plus I saw zombies climbing fences and holding rocks. Really? What next? The zombies learning how to use an M4?

Though the zombies probably aren't "learning" to climb the fences or hold rocks. They have probably done that some time in their life so the zombies have that memory in the back of their head even if they don't understand it. That sort of stuff doesn't really bother me that much when it's just simple things like climb a fence or hold a rock. A zombie flying a helicopter, now that would be another thing.

I sympathize, I truly do. But the climbing fences thing totally ruins a part of the later story. A huge part. I don't even feel like watching it tonight.

Yeah true. I guess it leaves itself open for some plot holes later when they get to the

Spoiler

prison

But I guess it's mainly because they saw Rick and Glenn do it so they copied.

 

[Raxi]

I've been reading Walking Dead for a while. Issue 79 will be out soon, the first episode of the walking dead was brilliant, very close to the story line and all that jazz. But the second episode made me rage really hard. They're already starting to blur the story, plus I saw zombies climbing fences and holding rocks. Really? What next? The zombies learning how to use an M4?

Though the zombies probably aren't "learning" to climb the fences or hold rocks. They have probably done that some time in their life so the zombies have that memory in the back of their head even if they don't understand it. That sort of stuff doesn't really bother me that much when it's just simple things like climb a fence or hold a rock. A zombie flying a helicopter, now that would be another thing.

I sympathize, I truly do. But the climbing fences thing totally ruins a part of the later story. A huge part. I don't even feel like watching it tonight.

Yeah true. I guess it leaves itself open for some plot holes later when they get to the

Spoiler

prison

But I guess it's mainly because they saw Rick and Glenn do it so they copied.

Honestly. I feel this won't hold a candle to the comics.

 

[Ph33nix]

iiittttsssss sssssssssssssssssooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo goooooooooooooooooooooooood

 

[spartan1077]

Just watched the third episode...never read the comics but I hope they don't have this muc continuity errors. The show is loaded with them! But I'll still watch it because it's good.

 

[Shaun Hastings]

My friend suggested it to me because I like zombie sort of stuff, but I'm not a person who tends to follow shows religiously.

This show... Holy shit. I love it so much. Every time I watch it, I feel like an hour has gone by in five minutes. I love every character, they're all compelling and I'm so drawn into it, it's almost making Sundays my favourite days. I'm thinking of reading the comic now but I saw a book at chapters and it was $30 for the first like, collection. And there were six there. I can't exactly afford that. I'm really, really looking forward to next's week episode.

I've never been so hooked into a tv show before - although I already hate the wife. She lost all my respect with that forest scene.

 

[viperthejedi]

3rd episode review up on io9:

http://io9.com/5689897/the-walking-dead-proves-that-zombies-make-family-reunions-extremely-awkward

 

[Bobbovski]

I'm having trouble figuring out what would stop that tank. I'm pretty sure an Abrams could drive straight through a maximum-density wall of zombies for any distance. So you do that til you're down to half your fuel plus an acceptable margin of error, then turn around and go back for more. I'm guessing the idea is that the fuel depot was overrun, but I still don't like it somehow.

The ineptitude of military and police response in zombie fiction always bothers me.

I have a couple of theories why the police/military failed:

1. The goverment never fully adapted or adapted too late to a wartime situation. They saw the zombies as infected people and probably ordered the military/police to hold their fire for as long as possible. Also, I'm not so sure it's such a smart thing to drive around a large tank in a city filled with refugees. Besides I don't think their superiors (the politicians) would have allowed it because of all the damage it might cause to humans and property.

2. All production slowed down/grinded to a complete halt because everyone in the world were too busy surviving the zombie threat. So the military/police simply ran out of gas, food and/or ammo.

3. In the comic they state that some parts of the military deserted to be with their families.

4. A chunk of the military were stationed abroad and they were probably busy surviving on their own.

5.

Spoiler

Everyone who dies become a zombie, not just the ones who are bitten. Around 150.000 people day everyday in the world. Now imagine that all those people would get up and kill more people who would in turn get up and kill even more people. Plus there would be tons of deaths caused by panic, famine, criminals e.t.c. The zombie growth is very hard to imagine

6. The military and police had to be pretty much EVERYWHERE at once, so they were probably spread very thin. Until the survivors all gathered in the cities where the civilians became zombie chow and then the military/police became chow to the newly created zombie hoards.

 

[Lord Monocle Von Banworthy]

I'm having trouble figuring out what would stop that tank. I'm pretty sure an Abrams could drive straight through a maximum-density wall of zombies for any distance. So you do that til you're down to half your fuel plus an acceptable margin of error, then turn around and go back for more. I'm guessing the idea is that the fuel depot was overrun, but I still don't like it somehow.

The ineptitude of military and police response in zombie fiction always bothers me.

I have a couple of theories why the police/military failed:

1. The goverment never fully adapted or adapted too late to a wartime situation. They saw the zombies as infected people and probably ordered the military/police to hold their fire for as long as possible. Also, I'm not so sure it's such a smart thing to drive around a large tank in a city filled with refugees. Besides I don't think their superiors (the politicians) would have allowed it because of all the damage it might cause to humans and property.

2. All production slowed down/grinded to a complete halt because everyone in the world were too busy surviving the zombie threat. So the military/police simply ran out of gas, food and/or ammo.

3. In the comic they state that some parts of the military deserted to be with their families.

4. A chunk of the military were stationed abroad and they were probably busy surviving on their own.

5.

Spoiler

Everyone who dies become a zombie, not just the ones who are bitten. Around 150.000 people day everyday in the world. Now imagine that all those people would get up and kill more people who would in turn get up and kill even more people. Plus there would be tons of deaths caused by panic, famine, criminals e.t.c. The zombie growth is very hard to imagine

6. The military and police had to be pretty much EVERYWHERE at once, so they were probably spread very thin. Until the survivors all gathered in the cities where the civilians became zombie chow and then the military/police became chow to the newly created zombie hoards.

1. I'm pretty sure most militaries are familiar with the ol' failure drill/Mozambique. My brother learned two to the body, one to the head as a civilian nuclear plant guard. I suspect infantry know about it too. Also, politicians (and DEFINITELY local city or state politicians) are not any part of a military chain of command. All troops are federal as far as I know.

2. I find it hard to believe the military that can prosecute multiple wars on the other side of the planet runs out of gas that fast.

3. Desertion would happen I'm sure, but I'm talking about the ineptitude of the ones who do fight.

4. Sure, but again sidesteps why the ones there weren't getting the job done.

5. I read about half the comic series quite a while ago. Was that part of these zombies? Cool. I pretty much assume zombies adhere to the ZSG until stated otherwise.

6. That's a tactical consideration. I'm pretty sure somewhere in the last ten thousand years military planners (not us civvies in the peanut gallery maybe) might have learned a thing or two about why you don't split your forces up into penny packets to feed to overwhelming forces.

Understand now I'm just playing with you and don't intend to argue such a silly subject at all seriously. Your move, player.

 

[viperthejedi]

2. I find it hard to believe the military that can prosecute multiple wars on the other side of the planet runs out of gas that fast.

What fuel ran out fast that you're talking about?

 

[Fetzenfisch]

There was a quote here, it is gone now

1. I'm pretty sure most militaries are familiar with the ol' failure drill/Mozambique. My brother learned two to the body, one to the head as a civilian nuclear plant guard. I suspect infantry know about it too. Also, politicians (and DEFINITELY local city or state politicians) are not any part of a military chain of command. All troops are federal as far as I know.

2. I find it hard to believe the military that can prosecute multiple wars on the other side of the planet runs out of gas that fast.

3. Desertion would happen I'm sure, but I'm talking about the ineptitude of the ones who do fight.

4. Sure, but again sidesteps why the ones there weren't getting the job done.

5. I read about half the comic series quite a while ago. Was that part of these zombies? Cool. I pretty much assume zombies adhere to the ZSG until stated otherwise.

6. That's a tactical consideration. I'm pretty sure somewhere in the last ten thousand years military planners (not us civvies in the peanut gallery maybe) might have learned a thing or two about why you don't split your forces up into penny packets to feed to overwhelming forces.

Understand now I'm just playing with you and don't intend to argue such a silly subject at all seriously. Your move, player.

The question is, for how long is this happening exactly.

"2. I find it hard to believe the military that can prosecute multiple wars on the other side of the planet runs out of gas that fast."
We are not on the other side of the world. We are in Atlanta, A tanks fuel reserves last only so long (and it needs a lot) and maybe its hard to find a tanksized gasstation midtown, while all your infanterist friends are eaten.


"1. I'm pretty sure most militaries are familiar with the ol' failure drill/Mozambique. My brother learned two to the body, one to the head as a civilian nuclear plant guard. I suspect infantry know about it too. Also, politicians (and DEFINITELY local city or state politicians) are not any part of a military chain of command. All troops are federal as far as I know."
Not really an argument against the claim.
May it be the commander in chief, or just the last order from above before whoever got to be the hightest ranked military who could be reached in communication. They WILL probably not have thought. "gosh these MUST be the living dead, lets burn our friends and neighbours my comrades, Booya!"


"6. That's a tactical consideration. I'm pretty sure somewhere in the last ten thousand years military planners (not us civvies in the peanut gallery maybe) might have learned a thing or two about why you don't split your forces up into penny packets to feed to overwhelming forces."

Well it probably wont have happend over 15 month of time.
Troops in the States are more or less widespread. And they didnt know what the heck is going on , so they started with reinforcing the police forces in the cities = US.Army transform and roll out!
After that, it probably was too late to re-formate.

 

[Lord Monocle Von Banworthy]

There was a quote here, it is gone now

1. I'm pretty sure most militaries are familiar with the ol' failure drill/Mozambique. My brother learned two to the body, one to the head as a civilian nuclear plant guard. I suspect infantry know about it too. Also, politicians (and DEFINITELY local city or state politicians) are not any part of a military chain of command. All troops are federal as far as I know.

2. I find it hard to believe the military that can prosecute multiple wars on the other side of the planet runs out of gas that fast.

3. Desertion would happen I'm sure, but I'm talking about the ineptitude of the ones who do fight.

4. Sure, but again sidesteps why the ones there weren't getting the job done.

5. I read about half the comic series quite a while ago. Was that part of these zombies? Cool. I pretty much assume zombies adhere to the ZSG until stated otherwise.

6. That's a tactical consideration. I'm pretty sure somewhere in the last ten thousand years military planners (not us civvies in the peanut gallery maybe) might have learned a thing or two about why you don't split your forces up into penny packets to feed to overwhelming forces.

Understand now I'm just playing with you and don't intend to argue such a silly subject at all seriously. Your move, player.

The question is, for how long is this happening exactly.

"2. I find it hard to believe the military that can prosecute multiple wars on the other side of the planet runs out of gas that fast."
We are not on the other side of the world. We are in Atlanta, A tanks fuel reserves last only so long (and it needs a lot) and maybe its hard to find a tanksized gasstation midtown, while all your infanterist friends are eaten.


"1. I'm pretty sure most militaries are familiar with the ol' failure drill/Mozambique. My brother learned two to the body, one to the head as a civilian nuclear plant guard. I suspect infantry know about it too. Also, politicians (and DEFINITELY local city or state politicians) are not any part of a military chain of command. All troops are federal as far as I know."
Not really an argument against the claim.
May it be the commander in chief, or just the last order from above before whoever got to be the hightest ranked military who could be reached in communication. They WILL probably not have thought. "gosh these MUST be the living dead, lets burn our friends and neighbours my comrades, Booya!"


"6. That's a tactical consideration. I'm pretty sure somewhere in the last ten thousand years military planners (not us civvies in the peanut gallery maybe) might have learned a thing or two about why you don't split your forces up into penny packets to feed to overwhelming forces."

Well it probably wont have happend over 15 month of time.
Troops in the States are more or less widespread. And they didnt know what the heck is going on , so they started with reinforcing the police forces in the cities = US.Army transform and roll out!
After that, it probably was too late to re-formate.

What exactly was the timeline for the beginning? I'm not recalling that for some reason. Surely you aren't saying Our Hero slept in his hospital bed for 15 months. Having him survive any length of time abandoned in that hospital already stresses my suspension of disbelief but I have my limits.

For the fuel I'll agree there are limits and an Abrams burns a lot of fuel, but the military has its own independent and I'm sure impressively large supply. Again, maintaining supply lines has been a fact of military life since long before Alexander the Great.

As for the misplaced orders you're forgetting that soldiers are people first. You can give robots orders and let them loose and if the orders aren't good enough the robot will break itself, but if you send two human PFCs to main a checkpoint and somebody eats the first one's face his buddy's going to shoot said geek in the body and head a lot. It won't be long before somebody does that and subsequently survives long enough to radio in a report on the action. From such information response plans are devised. One guy with an assault rifle might stand there and get eaten by an unarmed revenant because his orders were not to shoot, but a city full? A country full? Hell, a dozen? Forget about it.

 

[WolfThomas]

5.

Spoiler

Everyone who dies become a zombie, not just the ones who are bitten. Around 150.000 people day everyday in the world. Now imagine that all those people would get up and kill more people who would in turn get up and kill even more people. Plus there would be tons of deaths caused by panic, famine, criminals e.t.c. The zombie growth is very hard to imagine

Yeah but that only kicks in much later. It's never really explained, but I think the theory is it's like an opportunistic infection, everyone has the pathogen in them but it only kicks in when you die. Being bitten gives you a lethal dose, but precaution like amputations can prevent it. Also I'd be curious to know if it could be prevent with high doses of broad spectrum antibiotics and antivirals simultaneously (we have no idea it's exact pathogenesis).

I very much like this aspect because it presents a scenario where there's no real chance of a complete victory against the zombies, likewise it means an outbreak can occur anywhere.

 

[viperthejedi]

Another great episode last night. The ending with the zombie attack was amazing. Though I'm not sure how I feel about Jim having the dream about digging the graves. We'll see how they go with that.

Here is a recap at io9 again:

Recap [http://io9.com/5695833/the-walking-dead-teaches-us-that-we-still-need-politeness-when-the-zombies-come]

 

[viperthejedi]

Episode 5 is done and dusted.. And what an ep. Such an emotional episode full of some great acting. The whole CDC part is different to the comics and I am very interested in where they are going to go with it. Bring on the last ep.