The Walking Tank is real.
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As I explained somewhere on this forum a couple months back:
Walking tanks, regardless of the number of legs, are insanely impractical bits of lightly armored, low mobility, and light-payload targets.
In real world physics, just about any country's Main Battle Tank (American Abrams, Isreali Merkava, Russian T-90, UK's Challanger II, the German Leopard) is going to easily handle any mech, HERC, or Gundam you can come up with.
Building up means exponentially increasing weight, which greatly reduces payload, stability, and how much armor you can slap onto it. Since they walk, they have joints. Joints are ALWAYS a failure point, not to mention weak points in already light armor. You cannot arm them with heavy weapons systems (GAU-8, any MBT's main gun), which greatly reduces range and firepower. Because of their complicated drive system (which adds yet more weight, and more points of failure), they would have extremely complicated control systems that you would have to spend a great amount of time teaching to your pilots.
If it loses a leg, pilots cannot get out and crack track.
Really, the only plausible Walkers? Are really just armoured exoskeletons.
Also, robot is creepy. Also
Walking tanks, regardless of the number of legs, are insanely impractical bits of lightly armored, low mobility, and light-payload targets.
In real world physics, just about any country's Main Battle Tank (American Abrams, Isreali Merkava, Russian T-90, UK's Challanger II, the German Leopard) is going to easily handle any mech, HERC, or Gundam you can come up with.
Building up means exponentially increasing weight, which greatly reduces payload, stability, and how much armor you can slap onto it. Since they walk, they have joints. Joints are ALWAYS a failure point, not to mention weak points in already light armor. You cannot arm them with heavy weapons systems (GAU-8, any MBT's main gun), which greatly reduces range and firepower. Because of their complicated drive system (which adds yet more weight, and more points of failure), they would have extremely complicated control systems that you would have to spend a great amount of time teaching to your pilots.
If it loses a leg, pilots cannot get out and crack track.
Really, the only plausible Walkers? Are really just armoured exoskeletons.
Also, robot is creepy. Also
That probably doesn't apply in this case. It seems to me that a big engineering company could easily put together a robot with legs, and you only need to buy a pet dog to see examples of how four legged walking should be done. What is difficult is how to rig the thing up with sensors and program it to walk. That's not readily apparent from the video, so they aren't really leaking anything.twistedmic said:
And it's less useful than a pony, which can move faster, go furthur than 12 miles, carry more, is probably more sure-footed and doesn't make a loud buzzing noise to alert the enemy. So it probably won't see active service. Future models might, but not this one.
Its a pack mule and little more. its going to replace Jeeps and 2.5 ton trucks and provided some sort of logistical relief when you push into more rugged terrain which conventional vehicals can not traverse.
will this ever see any sort of combat options?
Out side of defence... No.
It is way too expensive and way too complex when you consider that something such as a 9mm bullet can easily disable it.
will this ever see any sort of combat options?
Out side of defence... No.
It is way too expensive and way too complex when you consider that something such as a 9mm bullet can easily disable it.
SIGINT explained in MGS3 why a walking tank is strategically flawed and here's why:
"Not only is making a tank walk on two legs a technical nightmare, but there's no point in making a walking tank to begin with. Putting legs on a tank would raise its clearance, increasing its frontal projection area. It'd also be less stable. Suppose the legs help the tank travel bad roads... I don't see the logic in that. Isn't that what treads are for? I mean, anyone who'd seriously consider making a thing like that has got to be a wacko."
He did say on two legs but the statement isn't inaccurate no matter how many legs you put on it.
"Not only is making a tank walk on two legs a technical nightmare, but there's no point in making a walking tank to begin with. Putting legs on a tank would raise its clearance, increasing its frontal projection area. It'd also be less stable. Suppose the legs help the tank travel bad roads... I don't see the logic in that. Isn't that what treads are for? I mean, anyone who'd seriously consider making a thing like that has got to be a wacko."
He did say on two legs but the statement isn't inaccurate no matter how many legs you put on it.
okay, I know it's bit far from "tank size" and maybe hardly "truck size" ,but it has been designated to carry more than just simple supplies. it's meant to be a "walking platform" that can adapt to multiple terrains and climates as well as follow simple directions, such as "follow" and go to and it will have the ability to jump. swimming? not yet...
It's okay, it won't go evil. Robots can only do what they're programmed to do, and will never become sentient.2fish said:
If you don't believe me, take a computer science course. Seriously, the sheer number of things that can will go horribly wrong with your programs will castrate any sentient robot threat.
The problem with a walking tank isn't the ability, it's the practicality. Japan has been working openly on walking vehicles for some time, both for military and civilian outfits such as firefighting in open country where fire trucks can't reach. Walking vehicles have the ability to traverse uneven ground that even tracks can't get over(Which isn't very much, mind you). However, that's about the only advantage. They still fall far short in carrying capacity and overland speed.
OMG, something about little dog always creeped me out. It's like a headless demon from hell doing a little dance as it slowly trots towards you. Now that they are making it into a Metal Gear I think the terrorists are gonna poop their pants.
PS. I hope that 5x the size=5x the loud annoying buzzing sound.
PS. I hope that 5x the size=5x the loud annoying buzzing sound.
that scared the shit out of me. the balance correction when the guy kicked it was unreal. also there wouldnt be a whole lot of point in covering this in armour, besides the fact it would rack up another 100 kilos or so of weight and it looks like it would be used (to me anyway) in bomb disposal, checking ahead of fighting groups in built up areas and in urban usage. i guess you could probably attach small artillery like mortars to it or large caliber remotely fired machine gun or rifles also strapping a transmitter to it and walking to whever you want to radio from....but i guess they already thought of that.probably.
Damn, that´s cool. And scary. I guess it´s a matter of time until Terminator is considered a documentary, heh.
