The War of 1812: What really happened?

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Sheppard

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Aight. This is my first thread, so go easy. I was just wondering what people from around the world think of the War of 1812. I've been taught the Canadian story, so that's what I believe. But I saw this American video about it once, and it seemed very flawed. So, what do you people think of the war?
 

MrHappy255

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Well everyone tells their own version but the truth is....

No really the canadians burned the white house to the ground, does that help any. Why do you think no one in the U.S. talks about this war.

Why, you ask?

Cause they got their asses handed to them, before 1812 the US owned all of the land that made up southwestern ontario and now they do not.

Oh and don't go flaming about how The US is the best or anything. This is not a rip at any individual country but I mean c'mon ya win some and ya lose some.
 

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MrHappy255 said:
Well everyone tells their own version but the truth is....

No really the canadians burned the white house to the ground, does that help any. Why do you think no one in the U.S. talks about this war.

Why, you ask?

Cause they got their asses handed to them, before 1812 the US owned all of the land that made up southwestern ontario and now they do not.

Oh and don't go flaming about how The US is the best or anything. This is not a rip at any individual country but I mean c'mon ya win some and ya lose some.
Actually, dude, I'm from Vancouver, B.C.

But know worries.
 

Sheppard

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TheNecroswanson said:
Um...What was the war of 1812 about now?
The war was about the Americans wanting to control Ontario(or Canada, as it was called back in the day), and they eventually lost. It's the war that created the term Benedict Arnold.
 

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Sheppard said:
TheNecroswanson said:
Um...What was the war of 1812 about now?
The war was about the Americans wanting to control Ontario(or Canada, as it was called back in the day), and they eventually lost. It's the war that created the term Benedict Arnold.
Who would've been a hero if he hadn't defected.
 
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Funny, Canadians think they won because Canada wasn't conquered, and America thinks it won because they drove back the British.
 

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thebobmaster said:
Funny, Canadians think they won because Canada wasn't conquered, and America thinks it won because they drove back the British.
No.... We burned down the White house. If I remember correctly, we were the ones attacked too, so that's pretty much a loss. Sorry.

Edit: Having just read the Wikipedia article on it, it seems the war had a lot less to do with Canada and a lot more to do with the British. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
 

bluemarsman

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America was mad at England because they were capturing American merchant ships that traded with France (England and France were at war at the time).
 

TomNook

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Come on guys, it was the British who burned down the White House not the Canadians. From what I have read in my 5 history books, the war was really the British trying to re assimilate the colonies. Canada was a small part of the larger conflict.
 

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I heard the war was because of the British impressment of Americna sailors into the British Navy. I just took AP U.S. History, so I think I'm right... I think. I'm pretty sure that war ended in a stalemate, though I think the British would have won if they kept pushing. I don't know about the Canadian side of the war, though...
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Khell's Handy History Lessons: The War of 1812.
The American colonies picked a fight with the British settlements later to be called Canada. The British ended the conflict with the burning of many-to-most government buildings in Washington including the capitol building "The White House" (Named such because only white people are allowed to rule there, not because of the color of paint used).

The British won with a 1.4:1 kill ratio, America hasn't picked a fight with Canada since, mission accomplished. Some times a bully just needs a bloody nose once in a while and they back off, and nobody fucks with Canada.

The following history lesson may not be historically accurate but hell, what history is, the winners write it. This lesson is sponsored by the letter "C" and Bic brand lighters. If you're going to torch a government building, Bic Burns Better (TM).
Hilarious. Seriously.
 

Easykill

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Unfortunately, we're still America's *****. I can't remember the details, but I heard a story about the States wanting something in our waters, asked permission, were denied, and went in anyways. No repercussions. You know that trade deal we've got with the states? They've gone to court a bunch of times trying to change it so it only benefits them and we can't send our wood down there. Oh, and when they wanted us to go to war with Iraq, but our government couldn't do it because we would have ripped them to pieces? Yeah, instead we just went to war in Afghanistan to free up American troops for Iraq. I think they need another lesson, Khell.
 

tthor

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war of 1812...when was that?
dam, i really should have payed more attention in history class...
 

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It was a whole lot about impressment. British ships would impress (force) American sailors into working on their ships under the guise of catching people who had escaped their service on English ships. America was none too happy about this, and asked the British to stop. They refused. America proceeded to invade Canada (which was at the time English territory) in order to attempt force the English to knock it off. America proceeded to get its ass kicked up and down the Eastern seaboard, culminating in English troops burning down the White House (burn marks from this are still visible on the Eastern Portico). Fortunately for America, England had other concerns (like, as always, the French) to deal with, and signed a peace treaty which ended the war and stopped impressment.

A few days later, Andrew Jackson won one of the few American victories in the war, which went a long way to securing America's role as a military power. The fact that America's military was able to beat the English military in a single stand up battle was impressive at the time.

So, from the American perspective, it was about a righteous struggle against people being shanghaied into military service for a foreign country. I dunno about other groups, though. I've read a bunch of different accounts though, from both American and foreign sources, and this seems pretty consistent
 

tthor

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why does every1 have to always rip on america? :(
i know the country has its flaws, but comeon, if you look into ANY civilization's history, you will find that in that in the eyes of history, NOBODY'S hands are clean. every civilization has had its ups and its downs,
we need to remember that even tho these are many different nations, we are all just 1 world, and in order for us to truly advance, we need to work together, and remember that we are merely a single family, not born enemies.
 

TheSteeleStrap

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Well I wasn't there... I'm American and if our school history books are to be believed we both agreed to a tie or something... I don't think our books should be believed completely so whatever.