The war on terroism and pronunciation

[traceur_]

ih-rahk is how I say it but the american accent is generally annoying so why bother with this. (no offense to you yanks)

 

[ExodusinFlames]

Was there a point to this thread?

 

[ExodusinFlames]

Heh.

 

[ExodusinFlames]

Seems like its kind of redundant, no?
Based upon linguistic connotations the world over, everyone is going to pronounce things differently.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

And i'm on the side with the most guns, i'll pronounce the losing sides country however I want.

That's ironic, seeing how America is pretty much getting their ass kicked.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Come on America if you're going to go to war then atleast learn to pronounce the place your going to attack, because I have to admit I've never heard of a place called Eye Rack.

The correct pronunciation is ee-rock/ih-rock.

When tensions start to rise with Iran because of their nuclear program it might be helpful to learn it's called ih-ran as well.

Through all the news coverage this is what I kept hearing.

No no no, you can't really tell people how to pronounce a word like that. It's like the word scone, or garage.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Iraq is completely destabalized, once we're gone they'll be a rash of killing all across the country. I'd say we won pretty handily.

Wow, you're proud of that?

The whole point of the Iraq war was to bring democracy to the country, instead you just created another terrorist hotbead, created a new generation of Iraqis resentful towards the USA, spent bilions in tax payer money and you can't even find a suitable exit strategy. You're proud of that?

Good job shooting yourself in the foot America!

 

[cuddly_tomato]

And i'm on the side with the most guns, i'll pronounce the losing sides country however I want.

That's ironic, seeing how America is pretty much getting their ass kicked.

Iraq is completely destabalized, once we're gone they'll be a rash of killing all across the country. I'd say we won pretty handily.

Depends on your point of view.

If the mission in Iraq was to pull down a statue of Saddam Hussain, antagonize the entire Muslim population on planet earth, hand an oil rich nation over to your terrorist enemies, make everyone who grieved with you after 9/11 suddenly start hating your guts, create thousands of new terrorist groups intent on killing Americans, and waste an absolute fortune doing all that (right into the maw of a massive recession) then mission accomplished!

However, if the plan was to stabalize Iraq, prove to the people in the Middle East that democracy works, provide a source of oil for the west, make an ally of the Iraq people and possibly have a base of operation in the Middle East, demonstrate to the world that America is a capable military force who can get things done, and stop the spread of terrorism, then the mission has been a complete failure.

 

[ExodusinFlames]

Depends on your point of view.

I dunno I like the latter half.

 

[Skeleon]

In German we pronounce it as Ee-Rug (though the Rug-part is longer than the English word and the r lacks that... English... y-quality, you know, like "year", but without that y-sound included in the r? Geez, how do you explain this without sound?!).

 

[traceur_]

in Australia it is pronounced ih-raaq with a long "a" sound and a short "i" sound. the point is that every accent is different and the only time it is is wrong is when they skip a letter entirely, like "aluminium" and the wrong american version "aluminum" it has a fucking "i"

thank you, the yank's pronunciation of aluminium has always annoyed me. Say it right guys.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

The whole point of the Iraq war was to bring democracy to the country

It's so cute that you actually believe that's the reason for the war lol. The Saudis HATE the US and don't have democracy and yet the US doesn't invade them...I wonder why?

You keep believe what Bush Jr says...

I'm not saying I believe what Bush said, just that that was the "motive".
And where the hell do you get off saying that the Saudis hate the US? The Saudi royal family is best buds with Bush and co, they're probably one of the most pro-American regimes in the whole Middle east.

edit: Oh, and if you'd actually read my whole post instead of just quoting the first bit you would have understood what I really meant.

 

[BaronAsh]

And i'm on the side with the most guns, i'll pronounce the losing sides country however I want.

That's ironic, seeing how America is pretty much getting their ass kicked.

Seriously, show me proof of that statement.

 

[Ancientgamer]

What? A nuclear weapons program in I-ran?(!)

Fun fact, there actually is a "cow" in "Moscow", listen carefully next time you hear a news anchor try to pronounce it.

The correct British pronounciation is closer to "Mosque-oh" than the German and American way - "Moss-cow". :-/

Actually amercians say -"Moss-koh" too, at least everyone in the media does, listen to it sometime, (assuming you're american)

Moscow is a loanword, so you can't justify different spellings based on dialect.

Fun fact, there actually is a "cow" in "Moscow", listen carefully next time you hear a news anchor try to pronounce it.

Another fun fact! "Moscow" is a giant fuck up of a name. What, it's harder to say "Moskva" (Mosk-vah) then Moscow?

"Moss-koh" is the giant fuck up,-Moscow is the proper transliteration of the way Russian's pronounce Moskva.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

And i'm on the side with the most guns, i'll pronounce the losing sides country however I want.

That's ironic, seeing how America is pretty much getting their ass kicked.

Seriously, show me proof of that statement.

Show me proof of yours.

Seriously, didn't you guys learn anything from Vietnam?
Ok, you killed Saddam, so what? You just created another terrorist hotbead, you've made a new generation of Iraqis resentful towards you, thousands of American ( and British, Canadian, etc) G.I.s have lost their life and for what?
The Iraqis aren't any better now then they were under Saddam Hussein and you're stuck in a war against an illdefined enemy that doesn't look as if he's gonna run out of steam any time soon.

Ok, maybe you ain't loosing, but you sure as hell ain't winning.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

And i'm on the side with the most guns, i'll pronounce the losing sides country however I want.

That's ironic, seeing how America is pretty much getting their ass kicked.

Seriously, show me proof of that statement.

Show me proof of yours.

Seriously, didn't you guys learn anything from Vietnam?
Ok, you killed Saddam, so what? You just created another terrorist hotbead, you've made a new generation of Iraqis resentful towards you, thousands of American ( and British, Canadian, etc) G.I.s have lost their life and for what?
The Iraqis aren't any better now then they were under Saddam Hussein and you're stuck in a war against an illdefined enemy that doesn't look as if he's gonna run out of steam any time soon.

Ok, maybe you ain't loosing, but you sure as hell ain't winning.

Now you are just being silly.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/41752

US military occupation forces in Iraq under Commander-in-Chief Obama suffered 31 combat casualties in the week ending April 14, 2009 as the official total rose to at least 71,575. The total includes 34,625 dead and wounded from what the Pentagon classifies as "hostile" causes and more than 36,950 dead and medically evacuated (as of Feb. 28, 2009) from "non-hostile" causes.

The actual total is over 100,000 because the Pentagon chooses not to count as "Iraq casualties" the more than 30,000 veterans whose injuries-mainly brain trauma from explosions and PTSD - diagnosed only after they had left Iraq.

100,000 American servicemen and women dead, wounded or otherwise unable to continue fighting because of this remarkably successful (and we know it is successful because Iraq is so stable [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8016241.stm]) attempt to make all the terrorist organisations of the world hate them even more than they already did. How on earth can you not see that isn't complete victory?

Note: We need sarcasm tags here.