The WHY? Thread

[cojo965]

You know how you are watching a show or movie, playing a game, or reading a book and then something happens that makes you say, "Why?" Well welcome to the why thread, the thread where you get to ask just that about anything you like no matter how petty.

My most recent, "Why," comes from The Amazing Spider-man and involves minor spoilers regarding the ending, namely why does Peter hesitate before putting the antidote in the sort everything out machine?

 

[Guffe]

Well I'm a Supernatural fan and I still don't get it why Dean and Sam always leave stuff untold to each other.
The only one I do understand is when Sam was without a soul because he was basically being controlled but they always end up finding out each others secrets and it ends well, so why not tell from the start?
But yeah...

 

[White Lightning]

In Skyrim when you do the Night Coller Tower quest.

"This force field looks hard to pass"

"Impossible actually"

Then the guy just walked away from me. Like... What the hell? Why is it impossible?

 

[Dangit2019]

My most recent, "Why," comes from The Amazing Spider-man and involves minor spoilers regarding the ending, namely why does Peter hesitate before putting the antidote in the sort everything out machine?

Because (spoilers) the movie sucked and was made exclusively for money by people who didn't give a shit on what did and didn't make sense.

OT: I've got just the video for this occasion:

 

[White Lightning]

Doing anything for Delphine in Skyrim! *****, I am the goddamn Dragonborn, stop treating me like a dog! Why should I kill someone who has been extraordinarily helpful to me for crimes he more than atoned for? Compared to a lady who sent me to an embassy where we found jackshit.

It made tons of sense to kill Pathernax (Or however you spell it). Not only did he commit terrible crimes, but he later betrays his own kind in an attempt to extend his own life. Granted he helps you but only because Alduin was back and trying to kill him.

The Embassy was incredibly useful. You find out alot about Ulfric and where to find Esbern.

 

[White Lightning]

Doing anything for Delphine in Skyrim! *****, I am the goddamn Dragonborn, stop treating me like a dog! Why should I kill someone who has been extraordinarily helpful to me for crimes he more than atoned for? Compared to a lady who sent me to an embassy where we found jackshit.

Not only did he commit terrible crimes, but he later betrays his own kind in an attempt to extend his own life.

When the heck did he do that?

Also, Parthy gave me info on the Elder Scroll we needed, gave me Dragon Rend an went on the teach other dragons the way of the voice. He redeemed himself after teaching ancient Nords the Thu'um and have them defeat Alduin, ending his reign of terror.

Esbern and Delphine got pissy and refused to talk to me after killing the greatest threat to mankind! I wanted nothing to do with the ungrateful pricks.

Remeber what Delphine said after you claim Parthy helped you? "Good, we needed his help, now we don't, now kill him" That made me realize the blades are even more useless, I don't need them anymore, so I should kill them by their logic.

He betrayed the other Dragons when he saw that Humans had the Thu'um. He helped them master it so they wouldn't kill him. Just like he helps you for the same reason. "Parthy" doesn't tell you jack about the Scroll, he tells you to find someone else who does. Alduin may be dead but the rest of the Dragons aren't, and Ohdaving tells you that the other Dragons aren't going to follow the way of the voice.

While it's true Delphine is a bit of a ***** with the whole "He's no longer useful" thing, she's still right when she says he needs to pay for his crimes. Even Parthorneadfaifax (I can't remember his name) himself says he has the urge to go back to being a giant Dovahdick, but I will admit it's impressive he's trying to be a Dovahbro and stay on his mountain.

 

[White Lightning]

Doing anything for Delphine in Skyrim! *****, I am the goddamn Dragonborn, stop treating me like a dog! Why should I kill someone who has been extraordinarily helpful to me for crimes he more than atoned for? Compared to a lady who sent me to an embassy where we found jackshit.

Not only did he commit terrible crimes, but he later betrays his own kind in an attempt to extend his own life.

When the heck did he do that?

Also, Parthy gave me info on the Elder Scroll we needed, gave me Dragon Rend an went on the teach other dragons the way of the voice. He redeemed himself after teaching ancient Nords the Thu'um and have them defeat Alduin, ending his reign of terror.

Esbern and Delphine got pissy and refused to talk to me after killing the greatest threat to mankind! I wanted nothing to do with the ungrateful pricks.

Remeber what Delphine said after you claim Parthy helped you? "Good, we needed his help, now we don't, now kill him" That made me realize the blades are even more useless, I don't need them anymore, so I should kill them by their logic.

He betrayed the other Dragons when he saw that Humans had the Thu'um. He helped them master it so they wouldn't kill him. Just like he helps you for the same reason. "Parthy" doesn't tell you jack about the Scroll, he tells you to find someone else who does. Alduin may be dead but the rest of the Dragons aren't, and Ohdaving tells you that the other Dragons aren't going to follow the way of the voice.

While it's true Delphine is a bit of a ***** with the whole "He's no longer useful" thing, she's still right when she says he needs to pay for his crimes. Even Parthorneadfaifax (I can't remember his name) himself says he has the urge to go back to being a giant Dovahdick, but I will admit it's impressive he's trying to be a Dovahbro and stay on his mountain.

Wrong, Parthy taught the humans the Thu'um, they didn't know it beforehand, why he betrayed Alduin is left to interpretation (He may have said it, but I remember little about it) Also, he tells you you need an Elder Scroll, something we didn't know beforehand. Parthy will do his best to get dragons to follow his philosophy so dragons can live among Man/Mer/Elven kind together, those who do not will be put down by the Dragonborn.

Like I said, Parthy atoned, if he didn't betray Alduin and teach the Nords the Thu'um, the world would possibly still be run by dragons.

I may be wrong about him teaching it to the Humans. I thought those rocks said Kyne gave man the voice and the Dragons taught them how to master it but I may be wrong and am too lazy to look.

Ohdaving seemed pretty confident that most Dragons would not follow the way of the voice, and Parthosnorlax even said himself it took a hell alot of work to supress his natural Davoahassholeishness so like getting 2 guys on his team would probably be the best he does.

He tells you you need an Elder Scroll and that's about it. Esbern or Arngeir are the ones who tell you where to find it.

I still think he needs to be punished, if I was in a cult that set 1000 Cats on fire, but then decide that's totally not cool and betrayed all of my cultist chums to save the rest of the Cats I should still be punished for setting Cats on fire. Just replace "Cats" with "Humans" and suddenly you have Paarthurnax.

That and the translation for Paarthurnax is "Ambition Overlord Cruelty" I mean how can you NOT kill a guy with a name like that?

 

[Tanis]

There's a lot of those 'WHY' moments in action movies/series.

WHY let the villain live is something I'll never 'get'.

The Joker should have been shot YEARS ago, but Batman doesn't kill him because...whatever.

So, the Joker goes around killing even MORE people...
Over and over and over again.

I'd say Batman is a BIGGER murder then any of his rouges because of his inaction.

 

[silver wolf009]

Something less of a why, and more of a what.

Spoiler: Mortal Kombat 2011

After a stupidly stupid beat down from Sindel, about 10 of the good guys bite the dust. Only to end up in the Netherrealm.
...WHAT?!

They shouldn't have even been able to SET FOOT in there; you have to have an evil soul to even be allowed inside. Shao Kahn gave Quan Chi their souls? They weren't his souls to dictate!

Halo Extended Universe.

Why did the Humans destroy the cure to the Flood? Okay, you can argue spite for the Forerunners, but surely it'd be smarter to hide it for later, not just click delete all on the file that had the information. I guess we just hated them, and wanted them to die by the Parasite. Kinda bit us in the butt later on though.

 

[shrekfan246]

Any time any game gives me a "supposed-to-lose" fight but scripts the actual fight itself so that it's incredibly easy and then a cut-scene afterwards is where my character suddenly forgets how to hold his weapon and loses in the most deus ex machina way possible.

Stop it, developers.

Make the fight impossible, and make it clearly known that it's supposed to be impossible.

Actually, that brings me to a very similar point: Fights that you're supposed to lose, but are only really difficult, and so you spend 30 minutes whittling down your opponent's health before they somehow manage to stunlock you and destroy you in three hits, at which point you rage loudly because you think you just wasted all of that time and the transition from end-of-fight to continuation-of-scene always takes too long.

 

[Scarim Coral]

The only recent "why" I can think of was watching The Dark Knight Rises last night-

Spoiler

Why did that guy and that blind guy help Bruce recover when Bane put him in the pit? Since Bane own the pit couldn't he threaten the inhabitants that anyone that help him will be killed?

I admit however I wasn't paying attention to some part of the film so I may have messed some info out.

 

[Vault101]

why is the [strike/]rum[/S] cider gone? why am I so lonely?[footnote/]its technically my brithday at this time and I am quite drunk and wanting to talk to somone [/footnote]

ok I have one..The comic "The Boys"...the thing with the tapeworm....yeah

The only recent "why" I can think of was watching The Dark Knight Rises last night-

Spoiler

Why did that guy and that blind guy help Bruce recover when Bane put him in the pit? Since Bane own the pit couldn't he threaten the inhabitants that anyone that help him will be killed?

I admit however I wasn't paying attention to some part of the film so I may have messed some info out.

I dont think Bane was around to give orders

and I don;t think bane owned the pit....it was around long before him

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

I may be wrong about him teaching it to the Humans. I thought those rocks said Kyne gave man the voice and the Dragons taught them how to master it but I may be wrong and am too lazy to look.

Ohdaving seemed pretty confident that most Dragons would not follow the way of the voice, and Parthosnorlax even said himself it took a hell alot of work to supress his natural Davoahassholeishness so like getting 2 guys on his team would probably be the best he does.

He tells you you need an Elder Scroll and that's about it. Esbern or Arngeir are the ones who tell you where to find it.

I still think he needs to be punished, if I was in a cult that set 1000 Cats on fire, but then decide that's totally not cool and betrayed all of my cultist chums to save the rest of the Cats I should still be punished for setting Cats on fire. Just replace "Cats" with "Humans" and suddenly you have Paarthurnax.

That and the translation for Paarthurnax is "Ambition Overlord Cruelty" I mean how can you NOT kill a guy with a name like that?

When the Player comments about the Blades wish for vengeance this is Paarthurnax's reply.

"Dov wahlaan fah rel. We were made to dominate. The will to power is in our blood. You feel it in yourself, do you not? I can be trusted. I know this. But they do not. Onikaan ni ov dovah. It is always wise to mistrust a dovah. I have overcome my nature only through meditation and long study of the Way of the Voice. No day goes by where I am not tempted to return to my inborn nature. Zin krif horvut se suleyk. What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?"

He has spent four Eras denying his nature. He could have spent that time being a dragon, but he didn't. He could have emerged after the death of Martin or the destruction of the Blades, but he didn't.

He realised that killing humans/mer was wrong, helped train those who would eventually defeat his brother, spent the rest of his time afterwards going against his very nature and assisting others with the Voice and gives you the information you need to stop Alduin.

And you advocate killing him because

1) He didn't give you the exact location of an incredibly powerful artefact (I'm sure after spending hundreds of year atop a mountain and out of circulation old Parthy knows where the best loot is kept)

2) He did some (admittedly seriously) evil things in the distant past when he didn't know any better and in fact in his very nature to do so.

I'm reminded of this web-comic for some reason

Spoiler

I can't imagine why.

 

[lacktheknack]

Why does "Dream" from Myst IV exist?

Just... why?

We went from Sci-Fi Fantasy directly to New Age Music Video in less than a minute.

 

[Thaluikhain]

There's a lot of those 'WHY' moments in action movies/series.

WHY let the villain live is something I'll never 'get'.

The Joker should have been shot YEARS ago, but Batman doesn't kill him because...whatever.

So, the Joker goes around killing even MORE people...
Over and over and over again.

I'd say Batman is a BIGGER murder then any of his rouges because of his inaction.

Leaving aside murder/execution/assassination, the police in the US carry firearms because they are allowed/supposed to kill criminals if it will prevent them harming someone else.

Hell, they have police snipers trained extensively for that very reason (admittedly, observation is a big thing as well).