The Wii Mote: A revolution or a devolution? (catchy name eh?)

[Enigmatic_Apple]

I have been playing Super Mario Galaxy for awhile now and am really frustrated. As much as I want to love this game I just have SO much trouble getting adjusted to the controller. I wish they would just give me the OPTION to use a Gamecube controller. I spent 20 minutes doing the 3 Stingray challenge which would have taken me one try with an analog stick. I just don't feel like it's responsive enough. Maybe you just can't teach an old dog new tricks.

My little sister has no problems with it what so ever. It is her first console though. I don't think I will even play games on consoles anymore if this "fad" follows into the next gen. It's not all bad though, it could be worse. I find the Sixaxis to be a complete joke on the other hand. It's so pointless and adds NOTHING to my game experience. This isn't even subjective, some people love the Wii Mote. I can accept that, it isn't the controller it's me...still though, if MS and Sony go this way I think I will recess back to PC gaming and never look back. I just can't enjoy myself, I have been trying to get used to it but I just can't.

Anyway, has anyone else had this problem? What are your thoughts on the Wii Mote?

 

[PurpleRain]

I luckly don't own a Wii and sport an ACTUAL console, a Sexbox 360 (Don't worry, I was being an arse on purpose). The people on the Wii ads look happy, maybe too happy.

 

[purifiedinfire]

wiimote = bad for platformers

wiimote = decent for shooters.

metroid prime 3 was surprisingly fun, and easy to control. try that. i have the same problems with a lot of games though, you arent alone

 

[Enigmatic_Apple]

I luckly don't own a Wii and sport an ACTUAL console, a Sexbox 360 (Don't worry, I was being an arse on purpose). The people on the Wii ads look happy, maybe too happy.

I have a sexbox 360 also and we have a very healthful sex life. I don't play with my wii enough though and sometimes play with my station 3 on the side.

 

[Minic]

It's very true to say that the Wii is more of a toy compared to the other two consoles. I love it regardless, and I still have my PS2 anyway.

 

[PurpleRain]

I luckly don't own a Wii and sport an ACTUAL console, a Sexbox 360 (Don't worry, I was being an arse on purpose). The people on the Wii ads look happy, maybe too happy.

I have a sexbox 360 also and we have a very healthful sex life. I don't play with my wii enough though and sometimes play with my station 3 on the side.

It's called a Gaystation 3. The Gaystation at it's best performance!! So enhanced it can bum you while serching the web at the same time!!!!!!!!!!!

I love my Sexbox 360, she's all I ever need.

 

[RentCavalier]

I can't really agree with you entirely--when I've played Wii games, I tend to generally love them to bits and pieces.

However, and maybe it's just me, but I find it aggravating that if you stand too close to teh TV or waggle the remote the wrong way, it suddenly loses its responsiveness, making moot the point of having it in the first place.

However, I *HAVE* played Mario Galaxy and I find it to be more fun than riding a pogo-stick through a valley of kittens who bleed rainbows, so maybe it's just you. The Wii Remote is used quite well to make the basic task of collecting shiny shit all the more interesting as well as making the Marble Madness esque sections near the beginning great fun--and greatly frustrating, but that's just because the blasted thing is so damn sensitive.

It's far too early into the device's life cycle to really call it on this, but I think the Wii has a great amount of potential that has been yet to be tapped--the only issue will be whether some big, burly game developer will stare at the Wii Remote from across the room, wander over with a little cocky swagger and say to it in a deep, rumbling voice like thunder cascading down a mountaintop, "I want to tap you."

When that event finally occurs, it will be glorious and wonderful indeed.

 

[Enigmatic_Apple]

I can't really agree with you entirely--when I've played Wii games, I tend to generally love them to bits and pieces.

However, and maybe it's just me, but I find it aggravating that if you stand too close to teh TV or waggle the remote the wrong way, it suddenly loses its responsiveness, making moot the point of having it in the first place.

However, I *HAVE* played Mario Galaxy and I find it to be more fun than riding a pogo-stick through a valley of kittens who bleed rainbows, so maybe it's just you. The Wii Remote is used quite well to make the basic task of collecting shiny shit all the more interesting as well as making the Marble Madness esque sections near the beginning great fun--and greatly frustrating, but that's just because the blasted thing is so damn sensitive.

It's far too early into the device's life cycle to really call it on this, but I think the Wii has a great amount of potential that has been yet to be tapped--the only issue will be whether some big, burly game developer will stare at the Wii Remote from across the room, wander over with a little cocky swagger and say to it in a deep, rumbling voice like thunder cascading down a mountaintop, "I want to tap you."

When that event finally occurs, it will be glorious and wonderful indeed.

Very well said.

 

[Enigmatic_Apple]

I luckly don't own a Wii and sport an ACTUAL console, a Sexbox 360 (Don't worry, I was being an arse on purpose). The people on the Wii ads look happy, maybe too happy.

I have a sexbox 360 also and we have a very healthful sex life. I don't play with my wii enough though and sometimes play with my station 3 on the side.

It's called a Gaystation 3. The Gaystation at it's best performance!! So enhanced it can bum you while serching the web at the same time!!!!!!!!!!!

I love my Sexbox 360, she's all I ever need.

Gheystation 3. GET IT RIGHT! I attempted to show my friends the Guitar Hero 3 review on this site but the POWER OF TEH CELL couldn't handle Flash 8. Super computer my fucking ass. We ended up having to look it up on youtube.

(my laptop is in the living room and has no sound without headphones, hence resorting to my super computer that can't play basic flash.)

 

[Jakeb Smith]

I agree with Rent. The Wiimote is fun in a stick, and I think it's a reflection of Nintendo's design philosophy that fun has taken precedence over precise control for their breakaway console. That said, I'm certain that as the programming gets more sophisticated the Wiimote will become far less unwieldy. Nintendo needed something fresh or, dare I say it, revolutionary for the Wii. The consequence of that is the time it takes developers to catch up and work out what they're doing. Not even Nintendo know how to implement the Wiimote perfectly but, in time, they'll learn how, and so will everyone else.

Enigmatic might even learn how to use one. Which would be funny were it not for my own Wii-clumsiness - something I remedy by flailing away with a smile on my face, pretending I don't care whether I win or lose.

ps. I do care.

 

[Enigmatic_Apple]

Enigmatic might even learn how to use one.

Wishful thinking, haha, again though more good points. I just am so skeptical. I mean, I have been beating everything so far in Galaxy and it is a lot of fun but fuck I hate this thing sometimes. Particularly the ball challenges and the Stingray...things.

 

[PurpleRain]

I luckly don't own a Wii and sport an ACTUAL console, a Sexbox 360 (Don't worry, I was being an arse on purpose). The people on the Wii ads look happy, maybe too happy.

I have a sexbox 360 also and we have a very healthful sex life. I don't play with my wii enough though and sometimes play with my station 3 on the side.

It's called a Gaystation 3. The Gaystation at it's best performance!! So enhanced it can bum you while serching the web at the same time!!!!!!!!!!!

I love my Sexbox 360, she's all I ever need.

Gheystation 3. GET IT RIGHT! I attempted to show my friends the Guitar Hero 3 review on this site but the POWER OF TEH CELL couldn't handle Flash 8. Super computer my fucking ass. We ended up having to look it up on youtube.

(my laptop is in the living room and has no sound without headphones, hence resorting to my super computer that can't play basic flash.)

Ha, supercomputer it ain't! And sorry... Gheystation 3.

 

[RentCavalier]

Lol @ gheystation.

Y'know what? I think I've figured out my biggest beef with teh PS3. It's...well...unneccessary.

It is, for all intents and purposes, the Xbox 360, but blacker and bigger and more expensive. The differences between them are practically nil, save for two or three exclusive games that only serve to force gamers to pay tons of money for a system they DON'T NEED.

The 360 and Wii are doing VERY WELL right now because they form the core gaming unit that anyone particularly NEEDS at the moment--I.E. the 360 for the hard-hitting, graphical powerhouse typical games that cost shit-tons but are more mainstream and more similar to what we're used to, and teh Wii for the cheaper, lighter, more casual games--with teh 360's Live Arcade in the middle of both.

Now, this isn't to say that the PS3 is BAD. If it's online capabilities TRULY trump XBL's as many predict it will, maybe IT will become the singular neccessary hard-hitting console. But, at the moment, what purpose does it serve, y'know? It's kind of the odd man out--and with all of its exlusives slowly getting snatched up as multi-console games, pretty soon the PS3 is going to have absolutely nothing left to stand on but its name, which isn't worth a whole lot compared to Nintendo.

If there has to be a console war, the Wii shouldn't be included. The Wii has won--and yet it also has not won, because it really should not be compared to the other two. It's a totally different system serving totally different needs which, at this point in time, are actually more pressing than what Sony or Microsoft are serving--the desire to throw out fun, easy to pick up, and accessible games that are refreshingly new to play. A Wii and a 360 are, right now, all you need.

So, honestly, Sony should really step out of the fight and let those of us unwilling to spend 400 dollars on a very large paperweight to focus our monies elsewhere. Sucks for Sony, but the 360 got here first, and it offers everything you do.

With new, holiday-themed red rings to make us all love it so very much this Christmas.

 

[The Irrelevant Gamer]

The Wii is a mutant. It is doing spectacular, but I don't think Sony, and Microsoft will try to emulate it in terms of design. They have carved out their niches, and are going after a different demographic than Nintendo. They are going for people who already play games while Nintendo is going after people who don't, and they are managing to bring in a lot of gamers too, but how many gamers do you know who only own a Wii? I don't know any.

 

[RentCavalier]

^ That's exactly my point.

 

[PurpleRain]

Lol @ gheystation.

Y'know what? I think I've figured out my biggest beef with teh PS3. It's...well...unneccessary.

The problem with the gheystation 3 is that it has a Blu Ray thingy built into it. So unneccessary. The 360 is like the PS3 but without all the crap you don't need.

 

[Quistnix]

[..]but how many gamers do you know who only own a Wii? I don't know any.

*raises his hand*

Well, I have a pc too, which is mainly used for System Shock 2, Deus Ex and Arcanum. But it's about consoles here, isn't it?

 

[LordLocke]

The Wiimote is just a different way of controlling games, not necessarily a better or worse one. The problem is that motion control technology, at least at the mass market level, still isn't precise or nimble enough to replace what we can get with sticks and button presses- Red Steel, Bleach, and Soul Caliber Legends has shown us that in spades, and even Twilight Princess basically snuck by by having just any old directional waggle equal the same button press. Anything that requires multiple precise movements is beyond the Wiimote's ability to register properly, because while the technology is miles ahead of where it was last time it was really attempted back in the NES days, it's still not anywhere close to perfect.

For simpler games, that don't require precise input or focus entirely on simple actions like aiming or tilt-steering, the Wiimote shines. When games let normal-style controls handle most of the busy work and let the Wiimote handle secondary duties (Legend of Zelda, Mario Galaxy) it works for the most part. That's why Nintendo made the Nunchuck- so it'd have a way to properly control titles that require precision in input.

 

[Fire Daemon]

I've played a wii at a mates house and found the controls to be shocking.
While playing Redsteel the Wii-mote never seemed to point at what I wanted to point and I felt like the remote was trying to piss me off when the cross hair jumped over targets or would just stay next to them.
And then when I complained about the controls I learnt that sunlight effects the receptors I nearly chucked a fit.

It was like this for nearly every other game as well.

I was going to buy a Wii but changed my mind after play testing it and I find it ironic that the recolutionary controls of the Wii that define what it is turned me away from.

Just my 2 cents.


PS:Wii bowl is fun.