Well something needs awards, and since there aren't many other recent RPGs, they gave the award to that.
The Witcher. Why?
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I actually didn't look at reviews (they never seem to d justice in the game world), but I actually liked the game! It's almost addictive when you haven't completed it, I keep feeling the urge to play it again to see what happens :S
I read a lot of books. I even love reading long thousand page fantasy novels with cast lists of main characters that stretch to twenty pages. I thought that the Witcher was boring and it severely tried my patience.
The Witcher was a phenomenal game, albeit a flawed one at time of release, but the subsequent patching and Enhanced Edition (which you could download for free if you'd purchased the original version of the game) fixed the bugs, re-recorded dialog, and generally spruced up what was already an excellent RPG and made it exceptional.
Personally, I liked it mostly because it was the very embodiment of an "anti-Bioware RPG", by which I mean it offered meaningful moral choices that were never ever clean cut Save Kitten/Save Kitten for money/Eat Kitten because you're SO EVIL GRRR! In the traditional Bioware RPG model, siding with the Order of the Flaming Rose would be the "evil" choice, and helping the poor repressed non-humans would have been the "good" choice - not so in The Witcher, where the elves are indeed poor and repressed and also terrorists.
Very few RPGs have managed to make me hate myself for the choices I've made - that The Witcher manages to do so is high praise indeed.
Personally, I liked it mostly because it was the very embodiment of an "anti-Bioware RPG", by which I mean it offered meaningful moral choices that were never ever clean cut Save Kitten/Save Kitten for money/Eat Kitten because you're SO EVIL GRRR! In the traditional Bioware RPG model, siding with the Order of the Flaming Rose would be the "evil" choice, and helping the poor repressed non-humans would have been the "good" choice - not so in The Witcher, where the elves are indeed poor and repressed and also terrorists.
Very few RPGs have managed to make me hate myself for the choices I've made - that The Witcher manages to do so is high praise indeed.
if you do not enjoy the witcher, then chances are you think that the best RPG to come out of the western world in the last 10 years is Fallout 3. The game has an amazing story told with a great first person narrative, and the combat system can actually be pretty fun if you play on the harder difficulties (alchemy requirements etc. etc.)
Every decision that you make culminates into an epic bloodbath of a final chapter that looks back on every choice you have made in the game and judges you for them. This alone is worth playing the game through to its end!
It is true you might get more out of the story having read the books, i myself had not, and i enjoyed the hell out of the game anyway. Its ambiguity, its perspective on the downtrodden rising against the upper class and the grey area between being a terrorist and a freedom fighter.
Every decision that you make culminates into an epic bloodbath of a final chapter that looks back on every choice you have made in the game and judges you for them. This alone is worth playing the game through to its end!
It is true you might get more out of the story having read the books, i myself had not, and i enjoyed the hell out of the game anyway. Its ambiguity, its perspective on the downtrodden rising against the upper class and the grey area between being a terrorist and a freedom fighter.
I thought it was pretty good, but also very flawed. Quietly looking forward to The Witcher 2, hopefully they've learned from the mistakes and can pull off a cracking RPG.
Where's my award, damn it!? Everyone's always handing out awards to everyone but me.Hubilub said:
I enjoyed The Witcher very much ( I even reviewed it on here, look it up yourself, I don't feel like digging up the link now) and enjoyed EVERY chapter and I have also read the first 2 books and am awating The Witcher 2 to be released and the rest of The Witcher books to be translated into english and released.
Because there isn't just your opinion?Warbygen said:
Because you are not the (only) one voting for the rewards?
Because Smurfs are blue?
PS: Why do some gamers feel the need to ***** about anything that is succesfull? It's like "ah i don't like/buy/support this because so many others do" you are just like the people who follow every trend and listen to music in the charts just because they are in there only difference is you are going in exactly the oposite direction than those following the trend but you are still controled by the trend....TOOLS
PSS: Hey vlahud give me a ride to the gagoon!Yaavlahh where the galoon the god damn galoon
I'm not having a ***** about it because it's successful and everyone else loves it. If I was like that I wouldn't have bought it because people reccommended it to me in the first place.RivFader86 said:
I played the game, I formed my own unbiased opinion of it and then I wanted to know what other people thought of it. A lot of people don't like it, a lot of people love it and cause of that I think I might go back and play through bits of it again to see if they can change my mind.
I even said at the start that I didn't think it was a terrible game, just nothing to rave about and shower with awards.
And I don't see how this has anything to do with trends. I'm not that immature.
I never read the books or played the game, but one of my best friends loved them. He always said he liked the game because the combat system was challenging from how he played it. (I guess he means like the controls he used and so on.) And I think he said something about liking the alchemy system in the game. I don't really remember what all he said too well, this was like 4 years ago, or whenever the game came out.
Yeah it's in RPG's because of character development... Obviously you won't start out with a character that's completely awesome otherwise you wouldn't need to develop it. Thus making the fact it's an RPG redundant. As you progress further into the game and more options become available you get more interesting combat and more powerful characters. Though in fairness some games just have unbearable gameplay mechanics. Similar case with the story. It really starts to become fun when you start to see the repercussions of your decisions. But same thing don't want to make every decision have an immediate effect so beginning game you're not going to see as many results.LordNue said:
But you know each to their own. I've never finished a game I hated, so you're point that you're not going to convince anyone that hates a game that it's going to better is probably correct.
As for the Witcher, I've played a bit, I was on a friends computer, and I would probably like play all the way through one day. It seemed like it could be quite good from what I experienced.
In my opinion the gameplay was excellent, but the problem is, as Yahtzee pointed out, it's too easy to forget about what the story is while you play it. I want to go continue it but I can't remember much at all about the plot other than there is some cult called Salamandra who wants Geralt dead for, some reason.
Yeah wasn't realy directed towards you (should have said so) your post just sparked the thought again...i know you played the game and made an informed decision so you don't fall in the catergory i mentioned.Warbygen said:
1. How the f*ck did you arrive at that conclusion?Hentaitom said:
2. What would be wrong with someone who did think that Fallout 3 was the best RPG to come out in the past 10 years?
OT: There's this little thing called opinion, believe it or not the people that hand out the awards have their own just like you and me.
Probably because it was the first and only real masterpiece of the small company that actually churned it out.
It had the star wars style 'Heavy, normal, quick' attack style setup that made you consider your opponent rather then hack n' slash your way with multiple mouseclicks while shouting IT'S HAMMAH TIME.
It had a fairly complex alchemy system that was essential to survival on the harder difficulties. I'd like to see you beat the wolf-ghost boss thing in the village without spectre oil.
It's actually one of the few games to deal with sexuality (okay, i know it was shallow and misogynistic) as an actual art as part of the gaming medium. It also included a (very addictive i might add) gambling mini-game.
It has to be pointed out, again, that it's based off a book (possibly series?) which i myself own, called The Last Wish. Cross-medium stuff always excites fanboys of that particular thing / subject / franchise.
Varied enemy design and the world had a fair bit of lore to it, if you could be bothered to read through the journal entries. For example, Echninopsae grow where blood has been unjustly spilt, which is why so many were at a cannibal's hut. It can be an interesting game if you enjoy tangential learning.
Lastly, i would like to stress again that this was made by a very small, probably poor company from a country that isn't exactly known for its well published games. It wasn't Hollywood that churned this out, it was Poland. And kudos to them for publishing something so well made - it's just like people praising Xeno Clash for being an impressive, if bizarre game from a Chilean developer. The game itself may not have been gold but the developers deserve credit for making it without huge, endless financial backing.
It had the star wars style 'Heavy, normal, quick' attack style setup that made you consider your opponent rather then hack n' slash your way with multiple mouseclicks while shouting IT'S HAMMAH TIME.
It had a fairly complex alchemy system that was essential to survival on the harder difficulties. I'd like to see you beat the wolf-ghost boss thing in the village without spectre oil.
It's actually one of the few games to deal with sexuality (okay, i know it was shallow and misogynistic) as an actual art as part of the gaming medium. It also included a (very addictive i might add) gambling mini-game.
It has to be pointed out, again, that it's based off a book (possibly series?) which i myself own, called The Last Wish. Cross-medium stuff always excites fanboys of that particular thing / subject / franchise.
Varied enemy design and the world had a fair bit of lore to it, if you could be bothered to read through the journal entries. For example, Echninopsae grow where blood has been unjustly spilt, which is why so many were at a cannibal's hut. It can be an interesting game if you enjoy tangential learning.
Lastly, i would like to stress again that this was made by a very small, probably poor company from a country that isn't exactly known for its well published games. It wasn't Hollywood that churned this out, it was Poland. And kudos to them for publishing something so well made - it's just like people praising Xeno Clash for being an impressive, if bizarre game from a Chilean developer. The game itself may not have been gold but the developers deserve credit for making it without huge, endless financial backing.