The world of Pokemon is awful.

[nukethetuna]

Considering that "god" in the pokemon world is... well... a pokemon, I guess it makes sense that everything and their mother revolves around teh pokiez.

I mean allegedly Arceus can cast judgement upon anyone/everyone in the world if he sees fit, so that's all the law they need?

 

[Hader]

Edit: Gee, sorry for stepping on all your little fanboy toes people. I didn't know this was such serious business.

What did you expect? Everyone knows the Pokemon world is absurd and unrealistic, but who gives a shit, it's still fun. Realism or the lack thereof has little to no effect on how fun a game can be.

 

[General_Potatoes]

Maybe people have nothing better to do than catch animals and force them to fight. That's my theory

 

[Dizeazedkiller]

Edit: Gee, sorry for stepping on all your little fanboy toes people. I didn't know this was such serious business.

What did you expect? Everyone knows the Pokemon world is absurd and unrealistic, but who gives a shit, it's still fun. Realism or the lack thereof has little to no effect on how fun a game can be.

Absolute bullshit
Pokemon IS the real world, they just dumped a heap of strange creatures and easily entertained children into it. Take a look at any other game/ movie/ story that does the same thing and you will see a major difference. When a new, fictitious concept is put into real life society, certain steps are taken to explain things that wouldn't normally work, or at least they explain the things that matter. I'm sure if pokemon did this it would be a much better game and probably have more people playing, probably from higher age groups.
What if they showed you and explained (simply for the young'uns) how the world works with pokemon? "Hey look, electric type pokemon! Guess what? We use them to power your house and stuff." Electric types could also help with repairing machines such as the ones used to heal pokemon in pokeballs (A machine which should come in a larger size to heal people, and should be kept in the same building.)
Water pokemon being used to hep in surfing lessons, swimming lessons, cleaning jobs firefighting, lifeguards and safety crew on cruise ships or something along those lines.
Grass types being used to attend to plants, work on farms, be misused by environmentalists because they are douchebags. Or so i'm assuming. (scapegoating makes your argument more valid apparently)
Fire types could be used in colder areas of the world for heating purposes, in firefighting if the fire is too strong for water types and they have to backburn,clearing the ice if a boat had to go through icy waters (titanicemon saved) or for any other reason.
Grounds types could be used to dig tunnels for underground piping, wiring and all that sort of thing.
Flying types could help with flying over areas to report damages and other necessary information about power lines and the sort.
Considering the "bad guys" bit, instead of always going to steal pokemon they could rob the stores, disrupt travel and a fair few more things to make profit. After all pokemon are a means, and not the only means, to get the money the "bad guys" want. Sometimes they aren't after profit but still, that's not much of the time.
As for the scientists only doing research on pokemon, it kind of makes sense. If you can achieve a task by simply using their talents then why bother with any fancy technology. However there still should be some scientists working on other things because disease is still a problem, and people are always looking forward to that new pokeball or pokedex. (The story of pokemon still has humans in it and as everyone knows we are consumer whores, and a couple of fucked up little animals won't change that)

Some of these i've stolen from the tv series and some wouldn't work because children are playing these games, but my point still stands. When you alter the real life scenario you are going to create some questions, and if these questions aren't answered it creates holes in your concept. Holes which most ten year olds would probably ignore, but still, it does seem a little lazy.

Then again, if the creators of pokemon weren't lazy they'd have probably moved on from the birds-eye view play... or maybe its just they lack the funds. Or don't want to spend much of their profit.

 

[mr.mystery]

Tv tropes.com is that way------>

btw you dont have to play the games if you hate them.

If I like a game enough to write silly fanfiction about it, why the hell would I want to stop playing.

Hey its cool.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

I mean, how many people complain about floating bricks that when hit, dispense Mushrooms/coins?

i do... *leaves*

 

[jackpipsam]

Also you can eat one of there tails

 

[Plurralbles]

How rude... (your bolded)

See: the first half dozen or so replies.

DOesn't matter: YOu're hte OP, you're supposed to set an example.

 

[PlasmaFrog]

There are only two words that could possibly describe a scenario that wold be relevant to the Pokemon franchise -

Cock-Fight

Just replace all of the neon-woodland creatures with cuckoos and you have your basic cock-fighting syndicate.

 

[Mad1Cow]

Erm...it's a game...go look for "the willing suspession of disbelief". We all know Pokemon doesn't work as a world, I mean when a baby kangaskhan HAS A BABY AT BIRTH then we already know the developers were smoking some crazy shizzle from the word go.

I suppose the only reason people keep trying to point out the flaws in the world of Pokemon is because it's the one that's most believable compared to say Mario, Zelda, Halo, Katamari Damacy, I could go on all day...

PS I know it's a joke, but still, it's an old comment. I'd have maybe laughed if it was pointing out the flaws of a more recent game...

 

[PunkRex]

- All the very best and brightest scientists are all dedicated to researching Pokemon, and nothing else it seems.

- All crime is related to Pokemon. The two largest crime syndicates on the planet are both dedicated to getting all the pokemon, and somehow making money off of them.

- All hospitals are for Pokemon. There are no doctors, only nurses that work at automated healing stations.

- Everything, and I mean Everything is dedicated to Pokemon, I think the only shop not outright selling Pokemon items is the bike shop, and possibly the "casino".

Given all these things, it's damn near impossible to write a story set in this world, about a character who isn't obsessed with them. Where are the people who make the cogs turn in the world? The accountants handling all the money that moves from trainer-to-trainer and making sure the [Weird symbol] stays fairly uninflated? Where are the builders and maintainers? Where is the freaking government?.

Hell, where are the farmers, the food distributors, the poor bastards who have to stand at a counter every day and bag groceries? Do they just eat pokemon?

As a world, it just doesn't work.

Although I agree with you on many points, in my oppinion a world inhabited by semi-sentient creatures with super powers cannot-not focus on them.

First off about the technology of the world. Theres loads of legends about how people and pokemon lived and worked together and helped create the world around them. Not to mention this is a world with matter shrinking balls, teleporters and mind-matter transferers (first in-counter with Bill). You really think cancers a problem, there will be hospitals just like there would be toilets, you just dont see them in the game because there not needed.

In everyday life, the fact people grew around pokemon for so long proberly means that they would be incorperated into EVERYTHING. For example, Machamps on worksites, Lapras ferry services and Pigeot mail services. It would be stupid not to take advantage of super critters.

When it comes to crime, Giovanni's about the only character I ever thought real. Its alot easier to hold up a bank if you have a Charizard standing next to you, whats a pistol going to do against that.

Its the way its presented guy. The developers are so geared towards the younger audiences that they let it get to the point were it makes no sense. Your saying no ones ever died in a Electrode explosion!? Try reading the Poke-Dex entrys, they can be fairly dark.

Im not having a go at you guy but the games are geared towards gameplay and the shows geared towards being crap. You cant write a story set in the pokemon world without Pokemon. Not even one that works in this world, their ingrained in everything, War, Buisness, everyday life.

 

[GGZeta]

It's not really meant to work, or so I always thought. I mean, think about it; all the Pokemon games have been played from the perspective of a 10-year-old child who's obsessed with Pokemon. Why would that child bother to see anything that didn't have to do with his hobby?

Pretty much exactly this. I'm not going to say the world of pokemon isn't somewhat creepy and a little unpleasant in other ways, but the necessities of real cities is something that is pretty much just assumed. The anime addresses the other parts of the pokemon world and the game has it's own scope. Now, if you want to talk about the moral ambiguity of capturing animals into balls, storing them as some unknown data type and then forcing them to fight other monsters in combat... THAT'S where pokemon gets weird. The fact that the ball rocks, implying that the pokemon is fighting back and trying to escape, kind of makes the act of capturing an implicitly violent and unwanted one. And what about the hoard of pokemon stored away on the computer? Pidgeys and Bibarels stored away forever never to be used or see the light of day again.

 

[ShadowKatt]

Okay, so I love Pokemon, the classic Pokemon games anyway (I just don't have the patience to "catch 'em all" given the sheer number of the things these days), and I had a little competition with a mate to see who could write the least-pokemon-related Pokemon fanfic.

Needless to say, it didn't work out so well. And I honestly think it's because the world of Pokemon is a terribly shallow place. Think about this:

- All children are pretty much expected to wander the earth alone capturing wild animals and getting into fights from the tender age of 12.

- All the very best and brightest scientists are all dedicated to researching Pokemon, and nothing else it seems.

- All crime is related to Pokemon. The two largest crime syndicates on the planet are both dedicated to getting all the pokemon, and somehow making money off of them.

- All hospitals are for Pokemon. There are no doctors, only nurses that work at automated healing stations.

- Everything, and I mean Everything is dedicated to Pokemon, I think the only shop not outright selling Pokemon items is the bike shop, and possibly the "casino".

- Fighting with these things is so ingrained that if you happen to have one on your person, no matter how badly sick and/or injured they or you may be, if another trainer sees you, you have to fight them. And if you lose, they have the right to rob you blind.

Given all these things, it's damn near impossible to write a story set in this world, about a character who isn't obsessed with them. Where are the people who make the cogs turn in the world? The accountants handling all the money that moves from trainer-to-trainer and making sure the [Weird symbol] stays fairly uninflated? Where are the builders and maintainers? Where is the freaking government?.

Hell, where are the farmers, the food distributors, the poor bastards who have to stand at a counter every day and bag groceries? Do they just eat pokemon?

As a world, it just doesn't work.

Edit: Gee, sorry for stepping on all your little fanboy toes people. I didn't know this was such serious business.

It doesn't have to be a lost cause though. You could fix all those things. But then you'd have to call it Digimon.

 

[TheRealCJ]

Edit: Gee, sorry for stepping on all your little fanboy toes people. I didn't know this was such serious business.

What did you expect? Everyone knows the Pokemon world is absurd and unrealistic, but who gives a shit, it's still fun. Realism or the lack thereof has little to no effect on how fun a game can be.

Absolute bullshit
Pokemon IS the real world, they just dumped a heap of strange creatures and easily entertained children into it. Take a look at any other game/ movie/ story that does the same thing and you will see a major difference. When a new, fictitious concept is put into real life society, certain steps are taken to explain things that wouldn't normally work, or at least they explain the things that matter. I'm sure if pokemon did this it would be a much better game and probably have more people playing, probably from higher age groups.
What if they showed you and explained (simply for the young'uns) how the world works with pokemon? "Hey look, electric type pokemon! Guess what? We use them to power your house and stuff." Electric types could also help with repairing machines such as the ones used to heal pokemon in pokeballs (A machine which should come in a larger size to heal people, and should be kept in the same building.)
Water pokemon being used to hep in surfing lessons, swimming lessons, cleaning jobs firefighting, lifeguards and safety crew on cruise ships or something along those lines.
Grass types being used to attend to plants, work on farms, be misused by environmentalists because they are douchebags. Or so i'm assuming. (scapegoating makes your argument more valid apparently)
Fire types could be used in colder areas of the world for heating purposes, in firefighting if the fire is too strong for water types and they have to backburn,clearing the ice if a boat had to go through icy waters (titanicemon saved) or for any other reason.
Grounds types could be used to dig tunnels for underground piping, wiring and all that sort of thing.
Flying types could help with flying over areas to report damages and other necessary information about power lines and the sort.
Considering the "bad guys" bit, instead of always going to steal pokemon they could rob the stores, disrupt travel and a fair few more things to make profit. After all pokemon are a means, and not the only means, to get the money the "bad guys" want. Sometimes they aren't after profit but still, that's not much of the time.
As for the scientists only doing research on pokemon, it kind of makes sense. If you can achieve a task by simply using their talents then why bother with any fancy technology. However there still should be some scientists working on other things because disease is still a problem, and people are always looking forward to that new pokeball or pokedex. (The story of pokemon still has humans in it and as everyone knows we are consumer whores, and a couple of fucked up little animals won't change that)

Some of these i've stolen from the tv series and some wouldn't work because children are playing these games, but my point still stands. When you alter the real life scenario you are going to create some questions, and if these questions aren't answered it creates holes in your concept. Holes which most ten year olds would probably ignore, but still, it does seem a little lazy.

Then again, if the creators of pokemon weren't lazy they'd have probably moved on from the birds-eye view play... or maybe its just they lack the funds. Or don't want to spend much of their profit.

You know what, I would LOVE to see a Pokemon game where you have the choice to do what you want in the world.

Do you want to just catch 'em all and teach them to fight like old times? Out do you choose to become a peaceful breeder? Do you commit crime, possibly incurring the wrath of law-abiding citizens, or do you go out of your way to stop those who would?

It could certainly help flesh out the world of Pokemon, give it a bit of depth beyond "go fight everyone forever".

Hell, make it an MMO, similar to second life. There really isn't a plot in pokemon's single player that wouldn't translate well to multiple players. Everybody's working to the same elite 4 goal anyway, and those that aren't won't have to worry, because there's a big huge world to explore without having to worry about anything.

Thinking in a business way, imagine how many of those Pokemon fans outside of the target demo would pay good money for something like this? Nintendo would probably surpass WoW in terms of subscribers.

 

[henrius]

Pretty much exactly this. I'm not going to say the world of pokemon isn't somewhat creepy and a little unpleasant in other ways, but the necessities of real cities is something that is pretty much just assumed. The anime addresses the other parts of the pokemon world and the game has it's own scope. Now, if you want to talk about the moral ambiguity of capturing animals into balls, storing them as some unknown data type and then forcing them to fight other monsters in combat... THAT'S where pokemon gets weird. The fact that the ball rocks, implying that the pokemon is fighting back and trying to escape, kind of makes the act of capturing an implicitly violent and unwanted one. And what about the hoard of pokemon stored away on the computer? Pidgeys and Bibarels stored away forever never to be used or see the light of day again.

I totally agree with you. I was wondering why this wasn't brought up earlier. You can explain away how a Voltorb powers a city, but it's horrifying and sick how Pokemon are forced to fight and (especially in the game world) left to rot as data in a PC. Are they semi-sentient like the show? Do they go mad?

Yes, I know it's just a franchise meant to compel you to buy by collecting more and more Pokemon. It's still fun to analyze.

 

[WanderingBiscuits]

Like most people have already said "Its a game"
Its made for fun. Its not meant to be a functioning society in every aspect, otherwise the games would be dull.