The worst idea Mankind ever had?

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Tonimata

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I have very clear what is the worst idea mankind ever had.
YOU
Now go in the corner to meditate about that one
 

Sane Man

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UpcountryGecko said:
Religion as almost every single war that there has ever been has been caused by it.
Can't tell if you are being sarcastic, as I have already disproved that earlier in this thread. If you actually believe this, please go and read history. You have no idea about anything that has happened in the past if this is your tilted worldview.
 

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Bright_Raven said:
Sane Man said:
UpcountryGecko said:
Religion as almost every single war that there has ever been has been caused by it.
Can't tell if you are being sarcastic, as I have already disproved that earlier in this thread. If you actually believe this, please go and read history. You have no idea about anything that has happened in the past if this is your tilted worldview.
hey, it has cause a lot of war not just as the cause, but for the REASON tat the people fight. it also slows science down and is a load of fairytales.
religion, fairytales for adults.
Religion has only bolstered and hastened science, if you knew your history you would not have even made that absurd claim. There is a small minority of religious individuals who see science as evil or anything bad. If you wish to generalize, then perhaps we should lock up atheists as Stalin and Zedong were atheists and you know what they did.

Religion has not caused "a lot of wars" unless you want to take that number out of context of all other war causations and compare it to the number "1", then I suppose we could agree. As for the reason people go to war everybody has a different reason. Religion has also given people the REASON to form charities, or to give up a drug or alcohol dependence or to just live a good life.
 

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Bright_Raven said:
Sane Man said:
Bright_Raven said:
Sane Man said:
UpcountryGecko said:
Religion as almost every single war that there has ever been has been caused by it.
Can't tell if you are being sarcastic, as I have already disproved that earlier in this thread. If you actually believe this, please go and read history. You have no idea about anything that has happened in the past if this is your tilted worldview.
hey, it has cause a lot of war not just as the cause, but for the REASON tat the people fight. it also slows science down and is a load of fairytales.
religion, fairytales for adults.
Religion has only bolstered and hastened science, if you knew your history you would not have even made that absurd claim. There is a small minority of religious individuals who see science as evil or anything bad. If you wish to generalize, then perhaps we should lock up atheists as Stalin and Zedong were atheists and you know what they did.

Religion has not caused "a lot of wars" unless you want to take that number out of context of all other war causations and compare it to the number "1", then I suppose we could agree. As for the reason people go to war everybody has a different reason. Religion has also given people the REASON to form charities, or to give up a drug or alcohol dependence or to just live a good life.
i like the way your name is "sane man" yet you seem to believe in a magical sky wizzard... religion is a farce by its very nature, and many of the "christian" scientists (not to be confused with the Pants-on-head-retarded "christian scientists") were never the most devout and came from a time when you were either christian or a dead heretic.
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Evoulution

how about the "creationist museum" now THAT is a bad idea. apart from it functioning as a testament of creationist stupidity, the idea of "crationisum" is misleading and blatently wrong, as is Christianity as a whole, as is Judaisum and Islam. and ALL religions unless you suspend disbelief in talking foliage, phisical impossibilities and circular logic, not to mention Mr cosmic Sky Wizzard or the idea that eating a cosmic zombies fleash can reverse the damage of a magic rib-woman from before time... WTF?
Well, I tried to have a civil debate with you. Obviously you are a little ignorant child (if you are lucky) or an adult with a serious regression problem.

Just make sure to wear your helmet when you leave your home, I'd hate for you to hit any sharp corners while you are walking around.

(and seriously, are you going to spell anything correctly, I mean even proper nouns? Eh, you are worthless). Nothing but a troll, so I'll move on and wait for someone intelligent to speak with if there is anything left to say in this topic.
 

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My views may be controversial, so I am truly sorry if I offend you, these are purely MY views.

1. Weaponising Nuclear/Biological Material
2. Religion and Cults (Sorry for grouping them into 1 point)
3. Capitol Punishment - I don't think anyone deserves to die as punishment.
 

Sane Man

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You cannot have a debate if you are going to continually insult the other person, or if that is your tactic it will not do you very good in your life. I don't call you a soulless moral parasite, so do not mock my beliefs.

It is not to lie to myself. Seeing as how God cannot be proved or disproved, there is no lying. Using that same logic saying there is no God is lying to yourself each and everyday. Besides, everything has been justified. Stalin and Zedong wanted a "better man" or a "new man" and justified their actions of mass murdering their own people for that goal. They were atheist, so should I be concerned that you will commit mass murder? No, because that is a generalization.

I didn't say that people form charities SOLELY because of religion. However people do form them BECAUSE of religion. You cannot bash religion and then not recognize or admit that amazing acts are performed because of religion. To do so is to be incredibly dishonest.

Lastly, no, I am not a creationist. I believe God gave us free will, as well as our abilities to learn and of perception. Learning of how the Universe works is incredible, and I do not see any contradiction with my religious beliefs nor do most Christians. It was actually my studying of the Universe that made my faith stronger, not vice versa.

Just as anything, there are good and bad examples. But the statement that most wars were caused by religion is just simply false. Tribalism is the biggest cause of war between two cultures by a long shot.
 

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Trivun said:
avykins said:
Damn, as soon as I saw the title I thought procreating. But max got there first.
Doesn't he always?

Bright_Raven said:
Trivun said:
Thing is, it's going to take hundreds of years for that thing just to get outside our Solar System. By the time the Voyager probes reach the outskirts of the Sol system, we will have developed further technologically speaking and we'll be even more capable of defending ourselves. If alien life does exist, there's not even any gurantee that they'll pick it up, or if they do, they may not be as technologically advanced as us. They may not have achieved space travel yet, whereas we have. A common misconception among theories about alien life, fuelled a lot by popular fiction, is that any aliens will be intelligent, as technologically advanced as us (or more so), bipedal and/or humanoid, and so on. None of these are likely (if alien life does exist experts agree that it is most likely to be some sort of insect style creature). Therefore the idea isn't really as stupid as one may think.

As for the stupidest thing mankind has ever done, I would have to go with US and UK politicians over the past ten years. Simple as that.
it left our solar system in the 80's... or perhaps earlier.

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george bush's second election
I would add George Bush's first election to that list as well, you guys would have been much better off with Al Gore. As for the probes leaving in the 80's, that doesn't change the fact that it'll take hundreds of years just to get out of Sol system. 20-30 years isn't hundreds of years now, is it?
"You guys"? So are you even American? Heres a history lesson: Al Gore was never preident, he was VP under Bill Clinton.

Even if aliens come to Earth, we must have something to kill them if they prove unfriendly, thus placing humans as a dominante race. Something like radiation, chemicals, or bullets. We have all kinds of stuff.

Also, please stay on topic, everyone. This is not a "who was the better president" thread.
 

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Heh, yeah. I'd have to go with Communism here. The theory embodies so many errors in human thought...the idea that Humans are inertly good an totally unselfish...the idea that individuality is a bad thing...the idea that Humans with natural talent should be held back to make sure that everyone is equal. I could go on and on.

And that's just the theory. In practice, it has led to the largest government sponsored killings in history (Communist China tops the list). The Holocaust pales in comparison to the murders that the Soviet and Red Chinese governments sponsored on their own people.
 

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The Mullet.

I dare you to disagree with me.

No-one looks good with a mullet. The natural reaction to waking up with a mullet should be: "AAAAARGHHH OH GOD GET IT OFF ME!!!" not "Yeah, I look smooth!"
 

Sane Man

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GloatingSwine said:
The Mullet.

I dare you to disagree with me.

No-one looks good with a mullet. The natural reaction to waking up with a mullet should be: "AAAAARGHHH OH GOD GET IT OFF ME!!!" not "Yeah, I look smooth!"
I dunno, Solid Snake still looked like a badass with that mullet.
 

Trivun

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sooperman said:
Trivun said:
avykins said:
Damn, as soon as I saw the title I thought procreating. But max got there first.
Doesn't he always?

Bright_Raven said:
Trivun said:
Thing is, it's going to take hundreds of years for that thing just to get outside our Solar System. By the time the Voyager probes reach the outskirts of the Sol system, we will have developed further technologically speaking and we'll be even more capable of defending ourselves. If alien life does exist, there's not even any gurantee that they'll pick it up, or if they do, they may not be as technologically advanced as us. They may not have achieved space travel yet, whereas we have. A common misconception among theories about alien life, fuelled a lot by popular fiction, is that any aliens will be intelligent, as technologically advanced as us (or more so), bipedal and/or humanoid, and so on. None of these are likely (if alien life does exist experts agree that it is most likely to be some sort of insect style creature). Therefore the idea isn't really as stupid as one may think.

As for the stupidest thing mankind has ever done, I would have to go with US and UK politicians over the past ten years. Simple as that.
it left our solar system in the 80's... or perhaps earlier.

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george bush's second election
I would add George Bush's first election to that list as well, you guys would have been much better off with Al Gore. As for the probes leaving in the 80's, that doesn't change the fact that it'll take hundreds of years just to get out of Sol system. 20-30 years isn't hundreds of years now, is it?
"You guys"? So are you even American? Heres a history lesson: Al Gore was never preident, he was VP under Bill Clinton.

Even if aliens come to Earth, we must have something to kill them if they prove unfriendly, thus placing humans as a dominante race. Something like radiation, chemicals, or bullets. We have all kinds of stuff.

Also, please stay on topic, everyone. This is not a "who was the better president" thread.
Nope, I'm not American, is that a problem? I may not be from the USA, but I'm still aware of politics in that country. You don't need to be from a certain country to understand anything from there, and looking at George Bush over the past decade, I feel that Al Gore would have been a better President. I simply feel that, when you look at what he would have done for the US and compare it to what Bush did do, then Al Gore would have been better. However, what's done is done and we'll never know for sure who would have been better. And for the record, I'm aware that Al Gore was VP under linton. However, in 2000 he ran for President against Bush and lost due to the whole Florida recount controversy. So yes, I am aware of what's going on with US politics. Or at least what did go on before... :p

OT, I suppose nuclear weaponry was extremely stupid. Nuclear power plants are OK as far as I'm concerned (OK, fine, there was Chernobyl, but that was caused solely by human error. Same for Sellafield in the UK.). But nuclear bombs are just plain idiotic...
 

sooperman

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TL;DR

Not nukes, radiation. Or bullets, maybe? Just, you know, shoot the aliens?
 

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No, I don't think nuclear weapons were a bad idea. If D day had failed then the manhattan project could have been our only hope against the nazis. Maybe today they're not so good but with all the assholes on this planet then peace probably is having a bigger rock than the other guy. If not for nukes then the cold war probably would have been world war 3.