The worst idea Mankind ever had?

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cuddly_tomato

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Virus017 said:
Give me one credible reason (apart from your religious books that have no known origin) that you can prove a god exists. And I don't want any of that "there must be something out there" crap, I want a concrete answer.
No.

Virus017 said:
I'm willing to accept a god if people can prove it but as far as I'm concerned people shouldn't devote their lives to a certain god, plus think of your chance of being wrong with the number of religions out there.
So what? It is none of your business, and you don't hold a monopoly on truth. People don't have to answer to you before they are allowed to believe in anything.

Quell thine ego.

Virus017 said:
And yes, religion does cause more deaths than communism. I don't know how people came to that conclusion, but religion has attributed itself to many wars before the 20th century.
No it hasn't. Religion doesn't cause deaths, people do.
 

hippykiller

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NO NO NO we as a people have done much worse than say ware our planet is, have you ever heard of EverQuest? i had to go to frigging rehab because i was a addict of that game.
 

Abedeus

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Baby Tea said:
Abedeus said:
For example, as long as you try to live good and behave properly, you can consider yourself a Christian. Even if you do not go to the church every week and so on.
What?
I mean, really? As a Christian, I've gotta disagree. This isn't a 'I don't like you because you're different!' post, this is a 'you've got it wrong' post.

See, the big part of Christianity is, go figure, Christ. You know, Jesus? The messiah and focus of the Christian faith? While Bruxy Cavy might be content to spout junk about being anti-traditionalist, and evangelical churches might be spinning my faith by saying that 'it's a relationship, it's not religion!' crap, they both will still freely admit that Christ, and His teaching in scripture are pretty important when it comes to being a Christian.

If you're just 'trying to live good' and 'behave properly' and believe in God, you're agnostic. Christian presumes some faith or believe or ties with Christ, hence Christian.

And I'm not trying to be rude or mean or anything, but it's just a matter of what it is, and what it isn't.
Well, that's just what my priest told me. Some people are Christians because they were basptised, their parents were Christians and their family is Christian. They don't go to church that much (if I recall, Christ himself condemned going to church "just to show off" - if you go to church just for the sake of it, it's not worth a crap), but as long as they live by the 10 ammendments (which Jesus approved, if I'm not mistaken), they can call themselves Christians.

But honestly, you can't live good and NOT listen to Christ's teachings. I mean, Christianity is based on his teachings. Mathematically:

Christianity = being a Christian.

Christianity = listening to His teachings and words = good living and behaviour = being a good person = being a Christian.

It's a rather modern interpretation of Christianity, but hey, 100 years ago no Pope would claim that evolution is a plausible thing.
 

Baby Tea

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Virus017 said:
Give me one credible reason (apart from your religious books that have no known origin) that you can prove a god exists.
What does that have to do with anything?

Virus017 said:
I'm willing to accept a god if people can prove it but as far as I'm concerned people shouldn't devote their lives to a certain god, plus think of your chance of being wrong with the number of religions out there.
Oh I'm sorry, are you the newly elected king of everything? Oh wait, you're some theophobe on the internet spouting bigotry and hate.
What business is it of yours, anyways? If I want to believe in God, I will. If some Shintoist wants to believe in many gods, then they will. Who cares?

Thank goodness you have no authority anywhere.
 

Baby Tea

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Abedeus said:
Well, that's just what my priest told me. Some people are Christians because they were basptised, their parents were Christians and their family is Christian. They don't go to church that much (if I recall, Christ himself condemned going to church "just to show off" - if you go to church just for the sake of it, it's not worth a crap), but as long as they live by the 10 ammendments (which Jesus approved, if I'm not mistaken), they can call themselves Christians.

But honestly, you can't live good and NOT listen to Christ's teachings. I mean, Christianity is based on his teachings. Mathematically:

Christianity = being a Christian.

Christianity = listening to His teachings and words = good living and behaviour = being a good person = being a Christian.

It's a rather modern interpretation of Christianity, but hey, 100 years ago no Pope would claim that evolution is a plausible thing.
Whoa whoa. There was a big jump in logic there.

Being a Christian may equal following the teachings of Christ and living a 'good life', but it doesn't work the other way around (Living a 'good life' doesn't equal being a Christian). As Christ said, the greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.
You can go through life technically following the teachings of Christ by not killing people or stealing, but without recognizing Christ or God then how do you get a Christian out of that? Remember: It's Christian.
Buddhists would say 'don't steal' and 'don't kill' and pretty much agree with the idea of the 10 commandments, so would a lot of atheists I know. But they wouldn't call themselves Christian, because they don't affiliate themselves with Christ.
 

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Baby Tea said:
new_age_reject said:
Well actually, it's not the religion that is bad, it's the people that spoil it. Ok a great deal of good things have come from it but there are also massive flaws in every system and each religion has had followers who have committed such atrocious acts of hate and violence.
I don't disagree, but I would say this: Religion isn't the cause of so much suffering, but rather merely a catalyst. People used it as an excuse to do terrible things, sure, but if religion wasn't there they would have used some other excuse to kill people or hurt people. At what point do we finally just blame the people, rather then the excuses they used?
I do agree with that, most times people do stuff "in the name of God" (see also: Dream Theater- In the name of God").
In the end I guess the worst thing about mankind is mankind itself.
 

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I, since I come from Sweden have my roots with the Aryans, you know those blond, blue-eyed people who followed Hitler (we're not really blond and blue-eyed, of course... And we don't all like Hitler).

We have our origins in northern India, I mean think about it... 42 degrees Celsius, an unlimited amount of fruit and the women are running around half-naked, and then some idiot decides it would be a good idea if we all went north... Yeah, that's a great fucking idea, 42 below, the women are wearing more clothes than you could ever imagine and all our fruit's imported from South America.

Stupid, stupid, stupid!
 

Dorian

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Quite a simple one, but still the worst one ever. Let me put this in a scenario.

Caveman#1: Hmm..... He has stuff I want.....
Caveman#2: I like this thing..... let's show off!

**SHOWS OFF AWESOME THING**

Caveman#1: "Gimme!"
Caveman#2: "No!"

**WAR**
 

Piru

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i think humanity has made a few very bad mistakes and here they are:
bigotry/rasicm/discrimination
religion
climbing down from the trees
being ignorant of the planets suffering and decimation (apart from a small portion of people)
having money, everyone should work free and give stuff for free for the greater good, this would negate stock markets useless getting rid of the current crisis making life easyer
people should not eat so much food, eating less makes you live longer (this has been proven) and having a smaller demand of it in the plentiful countrys would allow more food to be sent to the poor countrys in need (africa for example)

weapons tech is okay but STOP KILLING EACHOTHER, save the armys time and money by not making them go to every corner of the world stamping out rebellions (terrorists) allowing them to make more potent weapons incase aliens try to invade or exterminate earth
 

gaara9999

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jonas brothers
michael jackson
stupidly fast cars
atomic bombs
marvel comics
bi-sexuals (look either you want a woman or you want a male not either one)
face painting
scary maze game
lara croft
eyeshadow on males
sugar free soda
play station one games (if sony were to go so far tell us first)
little children
the credit crunch (its mankinds fault)
 

Abedeus

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Baby Tea said:
Abedeus said:
Well, that's just what my priest told me. Some people are Christians because they were basptised, their parents were Christians and their family is Christian. They don't go to church that much (if I recall, Christ himself condemned going to church "just to show off" - if you go to church just for the sake of it, it's not worth a crap), but as long as they live by the 10 ammendments (which Jesus approved, if I'm not mistaken), they can call themselves Christians.

But honestly, you can't live good and NOT listen to Christ's teachings. I mean, Christianity is based on his teachings. Mathematically:

Christianity = being a Christian.

Christianity = listening to His teachings and words = good living and behaviour = being a good person = being a Christian.

It's a rather modern interpretation of Christianity, but hey, 100 years ago no Pope would claim that evolution is a plausible thing.
Whoa whoa. There was a big jump in logic there.

Being a Christian may equal following the teachings of Christ and living a 'good life', but it doesn't work the other way around (Living a 'good life' doesn't equal being a Christian). As Christ said, the greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.
You can go through life technically following the teachings of Christ by not killing people or stealing, but without recognizing Christ or God then how do you get a Christian out of that? Remember: It's Christian.
Buddhists would say 'don't steal' and 'don't kill' and pretty much agree with the idea of the 10 commandments, so would a lot of atheists I know. But they wouldn't call themselves Christian, because they don't affiliate themselves with Christ.
Yes, but "don't steal" and "don't kill" are forbidden by laws around the world. I don't think "you may not commit adultery" is in every country. In some of them, you might have 2+ wives.

Same goes for "you can worship only one God". Hindu and Buddhists have few Gods.

You have to acknowledge all of the commandments. Sure, if you don't go to church, you are breaking the "keep the seventh day holy" rule, but as long as you don't do any heavy work or shop at Sunday, it's not that bad.

Of course, you have to believe in Christ and God. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a religion.

I admit, I've simplified my Math a bit. I also didn't mention anything about the sacraments. For example, I think two Buddhists or Atheists that are homosexual can marry, but they can't if they are Catholic. I know it's intolerant, but it's been here for a long time.

But I apologize for my mistakes.
 

Mrsoupcup

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Well we fly to the moon to play fucking golf on it... wow, that was sertanly worth the like 3 billion dollars...
 

Hunde Des Krieg

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Abedeus said:
Baby Tea said:
Abedeus said:
Well, that's just what my priest told me. Some people are Christians because they were basptised, their parents were Christians and their family is Christian. They don't go to church that much (if I recall, Christ himself condemned going to church "just to show off" - if you go to church just for the sake of it, it's not worth a crap), but as long as they live by the 10 ammendments (which Jesus approved, if I'm not mistaken), they can call themselves Christians.

But honestly, you can't live good and NOT listen to Christ's teachings. I mean, Christianity is based on his teachings. Mathematically:

Christianity = being a Christian.

Christianity = listening to His teachings and words = good living and behaviour = being a good person = being a Christian.

It's a rather modern interpretation of Christianity, but hey, 100 years ago no Pope would claim that evolution is a plausible thing.
Whoa whoa. There was a big jump in logic there.

Being a Christian may equal following the teachings of Christ and living a 'good life', but it doesn't work the other way around (Living a 'good life' doesn't equal being a Christian). As Christ said, the greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.
You can go through life technically following the teachings of Christ by not killing people or stealing, but without recognizing Christ or God then how do you get a Christian out of that? Remember: It's Christian.
Buddhists would say 'don't steal' and 'don't kill' and pretty much agree with the idea of the 10 commandments, so would a lot of atheists I know. But they wouldn't call themselves Christian, because they don't affiliate themselves with Christ.
Yes, but "don't steal" and "don't kill" are forbidden by laws around the world. I don't think "you may not commit adultery" is in every country. In some of them, you might have 2+ wives.

Same goes for "you can worship only one God". Hindu and Buddhists have few Gods.

You have to acknowledge all of the commandments. Sure, if you don't go to church, you are breaking the "keep the seventh day holy" rule, but as long as you don't do any heavy work or shop at Sunday, it's not that bad.

Of course, you have to believe in Christ and God. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a religion.

I admit, I've simplified my Math a bit. I also didn't mention anything about the sacraments. For example, I think two Buddhists or Atheists that are homosexual can marry, but they can't if they are Catholic. I know it's intolerant, but it's been here for a long time.

But I apologize for my mistakes.
Buddhists have no gods, except for the few that take Buddha himself for a god.