The worst idea Mankind ever had?

[Ken Korda]

What about religion? The deaths that have been caused by religion pale in comparison to communism. (I won't even get on the part that communism has been around for a tiny fraction of that of religion as well).

I can cite exact numbers if you wish of the deaths caused by Communist countries vs the biggest atrocities of religion. Let me know if you want to try this argument with me, you will lose, the numbers are there.

Although it is interesting to compare the deaths caused by communism and the deaths cause by societies such as the British/French/Belgian etc Empires of the first half of the twentieth century. These societies were very much not communist but they killed many millions of people (especially the British Empire)

 

[Xaryn Mar]

Actually any alien species capable of travelling here will hear our radio loooong before finding the old probes. After all our very first radio transmission have by now passed several stars while voyager are only reaching the solar pause (where the solar wind reaches the interstellar medium.
Look at it this way: The ant Voyager has literally only reached the fence around our little house called earth and the nearest possible civilisation is likely on the far side of the earth, whereas the radio transmission has reached outside the continent.

 

[Sane Man]

What about religion? The deaths that have been caused by religion pale in comparison to communism. (I won't even get on the part that communism has been around for a tiny fraction of that of religion as well).

I can cite exact numbers if you wish of the deaths caused by Communist countries vs the biggest atrocities of religion. Let me know if you want to try this argument with me, you will lose, the numbers are there.

Although it is interesting to compare the deaths caused by communism and the deaths cause by societies such as the British/French/Belgian etc Empires of the first half of the twentieth century. These societies were very much not communist but they killed many millions of people (especially the British Empire)

Very true, although I am certainly not going to defend imperialism or monarchy, although personally I do not see them as dangerous as communism. I've not done any research on exact numbers, so I am unaware of the scale of the nations you mentioned so I would have to do some to be prepared to discuss.

I was just fed up by the "religion has killed the most people in the world" line I hear all the time by people who have obviously not done anything but chosen ignorance on the subject. Especially those people because they usually hold science up as their religion, but refuse to actually LOOK at the scientific date that is out there.

 

[Fraught]

Here's an interesting factoid. If someone were to look through a telescope 200 light years away from Earth, they would be seeing our planet as it was 200 years ago. They wouldn't be seeing us chatting on cell phones, or watching movies or listening to Nickelback. (Thank god for that!)

That would be so rad.
I wonder why they've never sent a space rocket with a telescope on it 200 (or more) light years away from Earth, and let them look at the earth.

That way we would know the exact truth what happened long ago.
Although how they would get 200 light years away from Earth, that's another story.

 

[johnman]

I was tempted to say somthing meaningful but yes, Paris Hilton is a good example of whats wrong with the west. What has she ever done? appeared in some shit films? had sex then posted the tape on the net? Why do people cheer when she walks past and why the fuck should we care that shes got a new car "but its pink!!"

 

[goater24]

That ethnic cleansing was they way forward!

 

[Azaradel]

Anything to do with restricting sex

only rape and pedophileisim should be banned

everything else should be ALLOWWED

Necrophilism is allowed, then? How nifty...

 

[mr mcshiznit]

I'm going with the internment and concentration camps. Got to be up there on worst ever. Pretty much most of the ideas in Nazi Germany concerning individuals were really bad.

 

[BoilingLeadBath]

First off, voyager is small, lightweight, off in the middle of nowhere, and only has a low powered (couldn't even be as much as 420 W, on average) and narrow radio beam.

Considering that it is, and always will be, close to earth (it takes what, about 20,000 years to move 1 lightyear?), anybody capable of finding it can directly find the earth far easier, considering that multi-megawatt radar systems, and similar sources of recognizable oddity, are common on this planet.
This shell of radio emissions is a century thick and traveling at the speed of light, by the way. Which makes it way easier to find than some silly 3/4 ton chunk of metal.

Hell, any spacefaring civilization advanced enough to be a problem probably doesn't need to see our radio emissions. Considering that it is basically possible for us humans to do it right now, it is reasonably likely that "they" know that earth has life on it from spectral analysis of earth's atmosphere, or similar measurements. And that we just underwent the industrial revolution, most likely, considering the changes that event brought upon the atmosphere.

(The above points fail to hold if the civilization has FTL travel of some sort. Then it could be both too far away to find us AND be able to get to us quickly and inexpensively. It also means our understanding of physics is incorrect - though it still seems like they should be able to find earth easier than some half-dead probe.)

 

[Sane Man]

if super intelligent alien finds the probe it might be something like this.

Hmm intresting let me use my super advanced space telescope to look at this planet.
*sits down and sees earth, zooms in and see us killing each other like the crazy monkeys we are*
*presses big glowing red button and sends a Sun Slayer torpedo and destroy the earth*

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considering what we have done to the earth nuclear waste, global warming and stuff like that i can't rly see this planet being of much int rest to anyone in a few years.

Well, anthropic global warming has not been proven, and nuclear waste is incredibly negligible to the planet's stability and I would imagine appeal to a space-faring race.

 

[scape]

eating that fucking apple...
did we need to eat the apple?

 

[Ionami]

Here's an interesting factoid. If someone were to look through a telescope 200 light years away from Earth, they would be seeing our planet as it was 200 years ago. They wouldn't be seeing us chatting on cell phones, or watching movies or listening to Nickelback. (Thank god for that!)

That would be so rad.
I wonder why they've never sent a space rocket with a telescope on it 200 (or more) light years away from Earth, and let them look at the earth.

That way we would know the exact truth what happened long ago.
Although how they would get 200 light years away from Earth, that's another story.

By the time the signal reached us, it would again, be 200 years off. So we would all be dead. And the people who recieved it, would be 200 years from now, and would see us instead of earth in the 1800's.

I suppose they might be able to record video of it, but it would still take 200 years to send back to earth. And that's if they could even make the signal strong enough to go that far. Interesting idea you have there though.

P.S.

And let's not forget the time it would take for the actual satellite itself to get to 200 light years away...

 

[Arntor]

The idea of actively destroying ideas.
The idea of creating a system of hegemonic power in order to inflate one idea over another idea in an attempt to suppress it from the public mind.
Also, threads like these where petty biases run rampant.

 

[DigitalSushi]

So many choices for this topic, but I suppose communism and what it has done embodies the worst things that have happened to humans and the fact it keeps on appealing to people despite its disastrous history.

Elaborate.