"There is nothing wrong being racist"

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Joccaren

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Find a page filled with American hate. People calling American's fat, lazy, stupid, assholes ect. Show that to him and ask him if he finds anything wrong with it. If he says yes, tell him he is a hypocrite as they are just being racist, and apparently that's their choice.
 

Oskuro

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We all are xenophobic to some degree. It is a natural instinct to protect us from unknown threats (usually members of other tribes that swoop in to steal our women and rape our crops... or the other way around).

Wanting to cave someone's skull in with a rock is also a natural instinct, meant to ensure we get to eat/reproduce/brag about it.


Guess what both those instincts have in common with many others? They are morally wrong.



Racism, in particular, is about simplifying every member of a certain racial group to a preconceived stereotype, be it positive (which we don't notice that much because no one complains when complimented) or negative. In essence, it is about not seeing people we don't personally know as people but rather as a component of their assigned group.

That's why racists can have friends of those racial groups they dislike. Once they get to know them, they become a real three-dimensional person in the racist's mind.

So yeah, this behavior is a simple failure to acknowledge that everyone has that same individuality that we so earnestly claim to have ourselves.


For an interesting article on the subject, read about the Monkeysphere: http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html
 

Scarim Coral

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Seeing that I'm Chinese (British born Chinese to be exact), I don't tolerate people who are racist at all (I had a few encoutner in the past). I guess it up to you if you still want to be friend with him or not.
 

Auron225

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If one of my friends came out with stuff like that, I would stop hanging out with him/her immediately. If s/he asked why, Id say "I simply cannot be friends with someone whos thinks the way you do, and if you get angry when I try to reason, then there's no point".

I only pray he never becomes more passionate about this belief and decides to take it up a notch...
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Yeah, actually, no. Thats completely fucking false. Maybe thats what they tell kids in school now because of all this hyper anti-racism, but scientists do indeed acknowledge and study the differences between races.

Not that it matters, since all races will soon be mashed together in one globalized "cross breeding" party (I dont actually know if its offensive to word it like that, im just saying it for lack of a better term), but thats beside the point.
I was under the impression that, if not for forensic purposes in the pursuit of anthropological and evolutionary differentiation, most scientists acknowledge that all 'races' are actually members of the same subspecies, and that ethnicity is the appropriate term since there is no taxonomic variation on that level.

OP: Your 'friend' is an idiot and should be taught White Privilege 101. If he won't listen to reason, I'm quite sure I wouldn't want to associate with a person like that.
 

Craorach

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There is something wrong with hating a group of people based upon nothing more than stereotypes and what others have told you.

There is nothing wrong with doing so based upon personal experience. Someone earlier mentioned Australian Aboriginals, and this is a prime example for me. I'm not racist, but I have constantly seen the most disgusting behaviour from this group of people, and only a handful of honest and hard working members of it.. who openly admit that they are the minority within it, and suffer abuse from others of their culture for being law abiding and working hard. I automatically assume the worst of Australian Aboriginals because of years of personal experience showing that to be the right expectation.
 

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Inherently no, I don't think there is anything wrong in being racist. Your friend's reasons for having his views however, are based completely on ignorance.

If he was to act upon his racism, i.e. make people of other ethnic background feel uncomfortable solely for their heritage then yes that is an issue.

I view a dislike of another race not dissimilar to a dislike of tomatoes - no one is harmed if you have your own private view and they are just as entitled to it as you are yours.
 

MammothBlade

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Treating someone unfairly or attacking them because of their race is unforgivable. Your friend sounds like an arsehole, because he hates all black people for some stupid reason. That's just racial hatred, which only serves to cause trouble.
Though society is too quick to marginalise individuals as "racist" for controversial views, such as the opinion that there are some plausible differences between races which are not explained by culture or environment, believing that race is a bit more than skin-deep.
It's pretty disturbing anti-intellectual groupthink to dismiss someone's views and then give them a public lynching because they might fit under some arbitrary definition of racist.
 

Montezuma's Lawyer

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No, no, I didn't say that, but a good friend of mine did.

So, this friend watched American History X yesterday, a movie which tells about dangers of racism and what it can cause. Today he said something about the movie: "Best parts where those where niggers were killed"
I was shocked... I told him that the movie was supposed to be against racism. After that he said "Well I'm a racist and there is nothing wrong about being racist. I don't like black people"

Of course I started arguing against it, but he just got angry and said that being racist is his choise and I can't start whining about it to him.

But the thing is, he has had a black friend and he has been with one of my black friends. So I asked him "But wasn't she a nice girl?" (referring to my black friend). He responded "Yeah, but she wasn't foreigner", "So you dont like foreigner people?" "Yeah, but most of them are black", "So what about that chinese guy just 2 doors away from us?"(The friend is also my roommate), "Oh yeah, I dont like chinese people either"

I started arguing that you can't judge people just for their skin colour or where they come from, but I could see how he were getting angry so I stopped. He gets angry very easily and I don't want that to happen.

I don't know if I should punch him to the face, laugh at him or just cry because there really are people who think like that. Here you don't really meet any racist people. Yes we might say something racist but it's always said in a sarcastic way so we don't really mean it(Or atleast thats what I do). But my friend is serious...

So, do you have any racist friends and what do you think about them? Personally, I think I can't look at my friend the same way anymore...
Your friend is a complete and utter piece of shit, if you disagree with him, abandon him, before he drags you down like his kind ALWAYS do.
 

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I don't know any racists personally, well maybe that has something to do with the lack of foreigners here, only few black people i have met were my aunt's husband and my 2yo cousin, i have nothing bad to say about them.
 

RickyRich

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I think your friend is a douche. I'd say publicly embarrass him. Hide a camera, start that argument again, then record the results. You then upload it to youtube and list his name and all of his contact information, so everyone can tell him what a piece of shit he is. And yes, he is a piece of shit.
 

CrazyGirl17

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...If that were my friend, I'd get a new friend. Or... I'd kick him in the balls.

That might be a bit of a kneejerk reaction, but as someone who despises all forms of discrimination (not to mention a bad temper), that's what I'd do. It wouldn't help, and it's get me in trouble, but I'd maintain he deserved it.

See, I don't have a very good tolerance for intolerance (lol, irony, right?), and while I respect the right to have an opinion... I draw the line at discrimination... though that might be my strong sense of justice talking.

Rambling aside, you're better off without that asshole.
 

Sandytimeman

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My advice is to change roomates, he is willfully hateful and ignorant and he won't easily change. I shutter to hear his opinions on homosexuals.
 

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LiquidGrape said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Yeah, actually, no. Thats completely fucking false. Maybe thats what they tell kids in school now because of all this hyper anti-racism, but scientists do indeed acknowledge and study the differences between races.

Not that it matters, since all races will soon be mashed together in one globalized "cross breeding" party (I dont actually know if its offensive to word it like that, im just saying it for lack of a better term), but thats beside the point.
I was under the impression that, if not for forensic purposes in the pursuit of anthropological and evolutionary differentiation, most scientists acknowledge that all 'races' are actually members of the same subspecies, and that ethnicity is the appropriate term since there is no taxonomic variation on that level.
Indeed, that is the case.

Presently, humanity is one race; the human race.
 

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Lazier Than Thou said:
There's certainly something wrong with being a racist, but I really don't think it's the heinous thing people make it out to be. I, personally, don't judge people based upon groups as I'm a strict individualist, but I can see how people would get to their perspective.

Race isn't just skin color, it goes deeper than that. Biology influences human behavior and race certainly has a biological component. That doesn't mean one group is better or worse, just that they're different. To see this difference and to assign worth based upon it is ignorant(as you clearly pointed out), but it's neither unusual nor the most terrible thing a person can do.

I don't have any racist friends, but I also really don't have many friends so it's kind of a non starter with me.

Actually, biologically and anthropologically speaking... the concept of "race" among humans is so blurred its nearly impossible to catagorize. The supposed "racial" differences are less varied than male and female and even something so simple as living at different altitudes has a more noticable effect, biologically speaking.

So really, racism goes about as far as "You look different." and no further. Anyone claiming it has more depth is wrong and twisting facts to support their bias.

Most supposed "racial traits" are misinterpreations or flatout ignorance of socio-economic influences rather than simply being born, its all "self-fulfilling prophecy" logic.
 

Marcus Kehoe

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Hate against another person is wrong in almost every-way there is. You can hate what that person does and hate what they represent, but one must never hate the person.

Racism is hate used in one of the least justifiable way, its judging people that have something that sets them apart from the group then attaching stereotypes to it. Dislike for someone should be because of their actions they chose, not things that affect their life that they have no control of.
 

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Kinguendo said:
Lazier Than Thou said:
There's certainly something wrong with being a racist, but I really don't think it's the heinous thing people make it out to be. I, personally, don't judge people based upon groups as I'm a strict individualist, but I can see how people would get to their perspective.

Race isn't just skin color, it goes deeper than that. Biology influences human behavior and race certainly has a biological component. That doesn't mean one group is better or worse, just that they're different. To see this difference and to assign worth based upon it is ignorant(as you clearly pointed out), but it's neither unusual nor the most terrible thing a person can do.

I don't have any racist friends, but I also really don't have many friends so it's kind of a non starter with me.

Actually, biologically and anthropologically speaking... the concept of "race" among humans is so blurred its nearly impossible to catagorize. The supposed "racial" differences are less varied than male and female and even something so simple as living at different altitudes has a more noticable effect, biologically speaking.

So really, racism goes about as far as "You look different." and no further. Anyone claiming it has more depth is wrong and twisting facts to support their bias.

Most supposed "racial traits" are misinterpreations or flatout ignorance of socio-economic influences rather than simply being born, its all "self-fulfilling prophecy" logic.
EDIT: I actually find it very comforting to know that "race" among humans isnt really a thing, I think if more people had that frame of mind there would be almost no tension in this area.