These are the rules that the actual pros play MW2 by

[Pegghead]

The many "Pro" gamers out there are just self-obsessed douchebags.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

So how come the military can use these cheats. The poor middle eastern bastards dont have ac 130s, or claymores. Seriously military you fucking unproffesional cheaters.




(joke obviously)

this is why they use the javelin glitch! they explode upon death..taking out half the map (a.k.a. town) with them!


OT: i dont mind these rules ,for a certain playlist yeah, sounds good, tends to be the better person winning most likely, although for teams i think the riot shield is fine, as long as they dont turn into the stupid knife ninja

btw who ever said SSBB on final destination without items isnt bad..it shows who has the better skill, not by utter luck on which pokemon you get or if you hit the ability thing on the last hit, not saying I LOVE THIS, but just saying i have gotten near close to beating people, on 2 v 1's, and they tried to rub it in my face that they barely beat me because of that stupid flying thing, otherwise they were toast at 110% damage each

not meaning for that to be a off topic rant, but really its not that big of a deal, balances the game out

 

[phalanx1234]

I really don't understand why people are getting so offended because people play "Professionally/Competitively".

I have been through the Australian E-Sports scene ever since www.CyberGamer.com.au started. I have seen why they remove items throughout all the games. I've started a ladder for Left 4 Dead on the website and I help run the Heroes of Newerth ladder.

The reason why I started a ladder for Left 4 Dead was because the game was fun, and their were lots of groups of people (clans) who always vs. each other. The problem was that nobody knew who was the "best" team and who they beat. A ladder solved this problem, teams and players got recognised throughout the community and you could see who was the team that had better tactics and skill and who beat who.

My "team" consisted of my brother, 4 of his mates and me and we were always playing in public matches against public players and we were winning by a minimum of 4k points. The game got boring because we weren't being challenged. When I started the ladder, our team remained in the top 3 of Australia until we stopped playing due to real life issues. When ever we played we always did it for fun and a good laugh.

After we disbanded, I still ran the ladder and there were things that made vanilla L4D boring as the game was a race to the Safe Room with as much health as possible, so we removed things such as health packs so then it would start taking skill to stay alive. Then people were still getting through quite easy so we made it so tanks spawn on every map + various other changes. The game lasted like this for 2 seasons, then people started losing interest because everybody would use M16's so tanks would get mowed down, so we removed Tier 2 weapons. The game picked up interest again.

Pretty much what I'm saying is that ladders remove items/weapons from the game as they remove the skill needed. For example, grenade launcher, you need to just aim within a radius of 10m and fire and you will kill someone.... What skill does that take? A 5 year old kid could easily move a mouse to within a few hundred pixels of a player.

People find fun in different things, some people enjoy just running around with spam guns and just getting random kills. Others enjoy testing their skill and reflexes.

Just on a side note, my "clan" played a game 1-2 times a week yet we were still top three.

EDIT: Also, all sports have some sort of ladder and rules, it doesn't mean they are all douchebags. They also play to win, and by winning or being challenged they have more fun.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

That seems like it wouldn't be fun at all. Plus I don't really get restricting the use of arbitrary perks/weapons. If you're not allowed to use killstreaks why can't the other player have an RPG launcher? No secondary shotguns but shotgun attachment is ok? huh? Plus there isn't really anything that's extremely OP in the game. Stopping power and cold blooded seem to be the "best" to me, but they aren't even on the list. It doesn't make the game any more skill based to restrict these things. I don't get it.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

I only play by one rule: No excessive chatter, music or background noise, lest you be muted
Other than that, have fun!

I really dislike the term "professional gamer/gaming". It seems like a term slapped together to be pretentious, like "intellectual elite". The only way I can see anyone gaming "professionally" is if they get paid regularly to do it. And since I have yet to me a "professional gamer" who has received a cent for sitting on their ass playing video games just as much as you or I, I shall stick to that theory.

Another thing about "professional gamers". If they are so much better at it than anyone else, why must they constantly ban everything? I mean, sure I agree that the 1887 is overpowered and impractical, but if they weren't meant to be used, then why did the programmers include them and refuse to patch them out? Riot shields too: they are NOT that bad. If you are too stupid to figure out that you're not supposed to charge head-on into one, then maybe you have no business calling yourself a "professional".

Here, have some delicious CopyPasta:

Spoiler: Competitieve Smash players suck.

Competitive Smash players suck. That's all there is to it.

They ban most of the stages because they suck. They suck at catching their opponents, so large stages are banned. They have to rely on cheating shit like chaingrabbing to be able to win, so stages with any kind of wall and walk-off edges are banned. They have no ability to dodge or use to their advantage the very telegraphed stage hazards, so any stages with them are banned. Which leaves them three or four stages with no variety, no strategy, and which imbalance the game even further because some characters don't play well on those stages.

They also can't handle the randomness of items. "A bomb could easily appear in front of me right when I attack!" So? An asteroid could have fallen on you and crushed you on your way to the tournament. Did it? No. "An item could appear right beside my opponent and give him the advantage!" It could also appear right next to you and give YOU the advantage. Or it could appear in the middle and the two of you would have to fight for it. You're skilled enough to do hoop-dee-whoop combos and wagga-dasheen around the stage, don't tell me you can't do something as simple as run to an item.

Spoiler: I was playing Brawl with a couple...

I was playing Brawl with a couple of campus res neighbors down the hall since I had nothing better to do. As soon as they turned on the game these two guys wouldn't stop complaining to the host about how much it sucks that he doesn't have Melee, and that they should just bring in a Gamecube sometime instead. I tuned them out.

I chose Captain Falcon, since I thought I was rather decent with him, and he's an awesome character in general. One of the two whiners just dropped his controller onto his lap and gave me a huge "What the fuck" look.

"Dude. Are you serious? Don't pick Captain Falcon, man."

"Why, what's wrong?"

"Don't be a scrub dude. Don't fucking pick Captain Falcon."

I almost choked on a laugh. I've heard about these so called "tourneyfags" on /v/, but I still had some doubt they actually existed outside of the Internet, much less the chance that I'll actually meet one. Curious, I decided to prode his limits a bit more. So I picked Metaknight instead.

"Uh, nope sorry dude. Metaknight's banned."

That was when the owner of the game pipes up.

"Wait what? What do you mean he's banned?"

"He's a fucking cheap character. It ruins the game, honestly. Don't play as Metaknight."

"Are you a fag? Just play the damned game, people can choose who they want. You're the one ruining the game."

The two of them then started arguing for real. Over a Wii game. The other whiner simply sat back and watched while the two of them mouth each other off. I was trying my hardest not to laugh throughout the whole thing, especially when I actually heard the terms "Hitstun" and "L-Canceling" being thrown out.

In the end I quelled the fighting by picking Ganondorf instead. The two whiners both picked Marth. The game owner picked Lucario. Long story short, I won. There was much rage. And I'm not allowed to play smash with the two anymore because I'm a "scrub" and a "newb".

I know the above stories have to do with SSB, but this generally applies to every competitive game that has this kind of userbase full of neckbeard tourneyfags and such. Hell, you see this on WoW with duels. "Rogue? No vanish!" "Pally? No heals or bubble!" "Lock? No fear!" These are abilities that make the class what it is. You take those out, and all you get are super nerfed warriors slamming on their Spacebar keys like it's an instant orgasm inducer.

When Street Fighter IV came out, most forums I frequented were full of "NERF ZANGIEF! HIS THROW IS OP!" And at least the people there had the sense to tell them "Look, just because you are too retarded to avoid a certain attack, doesn't mean the rest of the game should be dumbed down to your level." Games aren't public schools, people. They're not going to lower the standards just because someone refuses to use the block button or refuses to dash around a slow-moving riot shield or has completely shitty luck with getting a Pokeball or Smash Ball or whatever.

Fuck you. Let the rest of us enjoy our games.

LOL i have endured very similar SSBB stories, and im so passive to the point where i dont tend to care, and just let them have there way, so i picked ike and ended up using the "OP" smash attack to finish them both off in one swing and they flipped shit like the pancake man on a easter morning, it was hilarious, considering they were lucario and donkey kong

i tend to just play it how it was meant to at first, then try the other game modes just for the hell of it, then usually go back to using whatever is comfortable

 

[Agrael]

No last stand, no noobtube (thumper does not count as noobtube) and we'll be fine.

 

[Contextualizer]

chess is not a sport and anyone who says it is probably thinks so because they cant play a real sport. it really does offend me when people call themselves athletes for chess or something lame like that

Right, and I'm sure you get really upset and bitter when people say a tomato isn't a vegetable.

 

[phalanx1234]

chess is not a sport and anyone who says it is probably thinks so because they cant play a real sport. it really does offend me when people call themselves athletes for chess or something lame like that

Right, and I'm sure you get really upset and bitter when people say a tomato isn't a vegetable.

but it is!!!!!#!!!!
RAGE BECAUSE I CAN hANDLE THE FACT THAT SOMEONE HAS A DIFFERENT VIEW TO ME!

 

[willard3]

What ever happened to playing for fun?

Your question is completely lost on MLG people. This is also why you find entire teams leaving because they're not getting a positive k/d.

And this thread seems somehow familiar...like a similar but somewhat different topic was up earlier today...

 

[Mr. Purple]

Yea, ummm if you cant play a game with what it offers, your really missing the point of the game. Screw all of that, "This weapon is cheap" Shit. You should find a way to defeat the weapons that you cant help but submit to. or use them yourself. they are there for a reason.
If there are really any unbelievable unbalances, you would hope that infinity ward would fix it.

 

[Contextualizer]

Yea, ummm if you cant play a game with what it offers, your really missing the point of the game. Screw all of that, "This weapon is cheap" Shit. You should find a way to defeat the weapons that you cant help but submit to. or use them yourself. they are there for a reason.
If there are really any unbelievable unbalances, you would hope that infinity ward would fix it.

I can't believe the 3-point shot only counts outside the 3-point line in basketball! Ugh!

 

[DracoSuave]

Whiney pros forbid weapons they can't handle.

Real pros defeat them.

 

[Contextualizer]

Whiney pros forbid weapons they can't handle.

Real pros defeat them.

Why have limits right?

This is how real pros play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA7SRGmp2gE

 

[NoNameMcgee]

Sounds like a pretty boring setup if you ask me.

 

[ffxfriek]

I wouldnt play shoot.

 

[Saay00]

seems fairly frivolous to me - after all, if everyone's got the same equipment, providing its not way out of balance, whats the problem?

And there's no point trying to claim its for "realism", because if you really cared, and i cant see why you would, you'd go play something like ARMA.

 

[katsabas]

What ever happened to playing for fun?

That. Making a big deal out of COD, like it's the 5th horseman or something. Just play the game and have a good time. I cannot imagine multiplayer without killstreaks.

 

[Contextualizer]

What ever happened to playing for fun?

That. Making a big deal out of COD, like it's the 5th horseman or something. Just play the game and have a good time. I cannot imagine multiplayer without killstreaks.

It seems like all the people who are (pretending to be) upset or offended are the ones making a big deal about it. Everyone else just plays how they want to.

 

[scotth266]

In games, I only disapprove of bullshit tactics like ledge hogging and super spiking (both from Super Smash games), which only wind up getting used by people who enjoy winning far too much.

However, if something is NATURALLY within the game, I approve of it (C-sticking.) I find it hilarious that Halo 2's MLG rules had no dual-wielding, especially since the BR was far more overpowered than any DW combo.

 

[Cowabungaa]

No claymores? Awww I love those things, it's an easy way to dispose of an enemy stalking you.

What ever happened to playing for fun?

Lots of those things banned in that rule list are more in the way of fun than that they cause them. They mostly banned the things that heavily promote camping, especially killstreaks.

Hence why I wouldn't mind these rules, it'd be nice to play a match of MW2 once that does not bog down into a camping war.