Ah, no, good tangoprime... I just have fond memories. (I should have clarified that I was referring to modern or current gen action flicks, heh.)tangoprime said:Clearly, you missed the 1980's.the December King said:
Things in Fiction that make you cringe...
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Haha, good to know. Yeah, nowadays only the badguys are allowed to look like the 1980's action heroes, and the good guys have to get their asses curbstomped for the first few minutes of the fight before they remember or think of some deus ex machina or checkov's gun that lets them instantly win. *sigh* They don't make 'em like they used to.the December King said:Ah, no, good tangoprime... I just have fond memories. (I should have clarified that I was referring to modern or current gen action flicks, heh.)tangoprime said:Clearly, you missed the 1980's.the December King said:
Someone has already mentioned eyes, and that sort of thing I don't like, but if it's done "Correctly", I'll actually want to cover my own eyes, case in point: "A Serbian Film" and "Eastern Promises".
"A Serbian Film" is awful, disgusting and above all else, something I'm glad I cannot defend anymore, because I slowly realized the movie served no purpose to explain Serbia itself, but instead aimed to elevate the squick factor to be over the top and horrifying. There isn't a scene with an eye, per se, but a socket on the other hand... I actually covered my eyes, a practice I don't do at movies much anymore.
"Eastern Promises" has an eye scene that's actually hard to watch, but it's the follow up from a badass fight sequence, which is still of one of my favorite fight scenes in movies to date, so it seems fitting, then.
Things that make me cringe in media:
- Bad Singing. This is usually lumped together with bad acting in the same scenes, so you have somebody deliberately doing a bad job of both performing and singing the lyrics to some song, and it just makes me uncomfortable.
- Bodily humor, especially when it's just crammed in for no reason. If you have to make a fart or period or puke joke, even if nobody is in the room, I begin to question why the movie was made, and for that matter, why am I watching it? If it's something in a context where it makes sense (Blazing Saddles does it excellently, or Airplane! for the one time it does it because it's meant to parody, even Dumb and Dumber did it well enough by only doing it once) that's fine. They are all normal functions, I understand, and some people have adverse reactions to things, but if somebody has to cut one and it feels forced.... Please stop it (Eugene Levy and Samuel L. Jackson were in a movie called "The Man", where it felt forced, and the movie was torture to begin with).
- Characters who call other characters something that's not really an insult would count as one. I don't know why, but hearing the Green Goblin in the 2002 "Spider-Man" called J. Jonah Jameson "Slime" always makes me slide down in my seat. It's just so silly, it makes me cringe. If you are going to insult somebody, you can find better ways to call somebody something unfavorable.
"A Serbian Film" is awful, disgusting and above all else, something I'm glad I cannot defend anymore, because I slowly realized the movie served no purpose to explain Serbia itself, but instead aimed to elevate the squick factor to be over the top and horrifying. There isn't a scene with an eye, per se, but a socket on the other hand... I actually covered my eyes, a practice I don't do at movies much anymore.
"Eastern Promises" has an eye scene that's actually hard to watch, but it's the follow up from a badass fight sequence, which is still of one of my favorite fight scenes in movies to date, so it seems fitting, then.
Things that make me cringe in media:
- Bad Singing. This is usually lumped together with bad acting in the same scenes, so you have somebody deliberately doing a bad job of both performing and singing the lyrics to some song, and it just makes me uncomfortable.
- Bodily humor, especially when it's just crammed in for no reason. If you have to make a fart or period or puke joke, even if nobody is in the room, I begin to question why the movie was made, and for that matter, why am I watching it? If it's something in a context where it makes sense (Blazing Saddles does it excellently, or Airplane! for the one time it does it because it's meant to parody, even Dumb and Dumber did it well enough by only doing it once) that's fine. They are all normal functions, I understand, and some people have adverse reactions to things, but if somebody has to cut one and it feels forced.... Please stop it (Eugene Levy and Samuel L. Jackson were in a movie called "The Man", where it felt forced, and the movie was torture to begin with).
- Characters who call other characters something that's not really an insult would count as one. I don't know why, but hearing the Green Goblin in the 2002 "Spider-Man" called J. Jonah Jameson "Slime" always makes me slide down in my seat. It's just so silly, it makes me cringe. If you are going to insult somebody, you can find better ways to call somebody something unfavorable.
Copious amounts of goo or 'comedy' involving bodily fluids. They tend to make me roll my eyes at best and retch at worst. The final scenes in Men in Black - BLEURGH.
Gruesome death that catches me off-guard. Fortunately that isn't as common, most movies foreshadow that sort of thing to a fault. Pan's Labyrinth may have scarred me for life.
Gruesome death that catches me off-guard. Fortunately that isn't as common, most movies foreshadow that sort of thing to a fault. Pan's Labyrinth may have scarred me for life.
1. Rape scenes: I have no problem with what many people call torture porn, and will even take notes. I loved the Saw movie series. But rape scenes, I have great difficulty with. I actually had to walk out of the theatre when I tried to see The Devil's Rejects when one of the characters was putting his gun into some poor guys wife in a hotel scene. It probably stems from having watched my mother get raped at knifepoint when I was 4.
2. Musical's or other spontaneous breaking out into song: Fills me with rage for reasons I can't explain.
3. Love conquers all because reasons (or lack of): Best example of this is the last 5 minutes of the first Matrix movie. "You can't die, because I love you" and then neo comes back to life. Ruined what up to that point had been one of the greatest sci-fi movies I had ever seen.
2. Musical's or other spontaneous breaking out into song: Fills me with rage for reasons I can't explain.
3. Love conquers all because reasons (or lack of): Best example of this is the last 5 minutes of the first Matrix movie. "You can't die, because I love you" and then neo comes back to life. Ruined what up to that point had been one of the greatest sci-fi movies I had ever seen.
I can't stand it when a writer uses a series as a soap box for whiny dialogue. It typically leads to Shinji Ikari levels of angst. The only reason I give Neon Genesis a pass is because the show acknowledges this, and people treat him the way they would in real life. Case in point, Misato telling him that she cares about him, but that he needs to get his whiny but in gear because other people are depending on him.
Also, adverbs. Fuck adverbs.
Also, adverbs. Fuck adverbs.
Scenes or characters built around the straw man skeptic. Mostly in fiction with supernatural elements you will have the character who doesn't believe any of it. Then you have them go on to witness proof that the supernatural stuff exists and they still don't believe it just so that the (usually superstitious/religious) author can masturbate to their conquering of real life skeptics. The reason the overwhelming majority of skeptics don't believe in supernatural horseshit is that there is no proof. If a fairy/vampire/dragon/whatever appeared to them in real life they would believe in them.
Freud? There's nothing freudian about this : Pjademunky said:
Nah, I actually love Neon Genesis. I just can't stand its numerous imitators, who didn't handle their angst quite as well. Rahxephon had its character suffer a mental breakdown in the first fifteen minutes. I'm like, calm down, nothings even happened yet!
This is more of something I wish would disappear from anime and fiction altogether but tsunderes are annoying and need to be eradicated, esp. now that a lot of anime/manga writers think they need to have one JUST BECAUSE IT'S ANIME.
I find embarrassment comedy horribly uncomfortable, because I always feel it like it was my own (even for characters I don't actually like).
Also, those really contrived misunderstanding moments. Especially when it would take two seconds for a normal person to say, "wait, that doesn't seem right. What happened now?"
Also, those really contrived misunderstanding moments. Especially when it would take two seconds for a normal person to say, "wait, that doesn't seem right. What happened now?"
Extreme awkwardness, a la The Office or 40 Year Old Virgin is the only thing I can't handle. When I'm watching with others I can power through it and laugh about it all, but if I'm watching by myself then it bothers me too much, even during scenes with that type of stuff in other shows, and I sometimes have to pause and do something else for a while before continuing. It's pretty annoying (that I have this quirk).
Oh wait, there is one other thing. Extremely cheesy "feeling" scenes. Think typical anime friendship speech, or some kind of feel-good BS that is so naive and ridiculous that I have to lower the volume and let the scene play out so it doesn't end up ruining my opinion of the entire thing I happen to be watching.
I can handle everything else though. Violence, tragedy, whatever. Some of it might really get to me and make me sad, and there are particular elements that hit me harder than most, but none of it can actually put me off from finishing, unlike the two situations I mentioned above.
Oh wait, there is one other thing. Extremely cheesy "feeling" scenes. Think typical anime friendship speech, or some kind of feel-good BS that is so naive and ridiculous that I have to lower the volume and let the scene play out so it doesn't end up ruining my opinion of the entire thing I happen to be watching.
I can handle everything else though. Violence, tragedy, whatever. Some of it might really get to me and make me sad, and there are particular elements that hit me harder than most, but none of it can actually put me off from finishing, unlike the two situations I mentioned above.
I'm watching The Breakfast Club right now, and Bender's tearing apart a Molière book. It's horrible to watch.
(Oh, and I'm posting in this thread becaue as far as I know it's not been dead enough for this to be necroposting. Feel free to lock the place up if I'm wrong, though.)
(Oh, and I'm posting in this thread becaue as far as I know it's not been dead enough for this to be necroposting. Feel free to lock the place up if I'm wrong, though.)
Something that's stuck out to me in all of literature in I think ever is the character Pearl from Nathaniel Hawthorne's The Scarlet Letter. In other threads I've said the book is literally the worst piece of fiction I've read and probably will ever read, but this stuck out to me worse than every paragraph of Hawthorne's long-winded explanations and poor characterization.
Throughout the book, Pearl, whose age is well beneath her teens, always speaks with an incredibly adult vocabulary and always makes these incredibly astute sense of what's going on that no other character can pick up. It was one of the worst things I've ever read, that Hawthorne tries to build up Pearl as being a disobedient troublemaker, but every time she talks she's using fifteen-lettered words and immediately identifying the emotions of the characters around her. This isn't a child I'm reading about, it's something really bad that I can't read anymore.
I've read through rapes, tortures, awkward speeches, and love scenes, but Hawthorne having no idea what a child is and how they act is really what messed with me the most in all of fiction.
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************. I looked this up to remember how old she is in the books and Cliffnotes had this to say.
Throughout the book, Pearl, whose age is well beneath her teens, always speaks with an incredibly adult vocabulary and always makes these incredibly astute sense of what's going on that no other character can pick up. It was one of the worst things I've ever read, that Hawthorne tries to build up Pearl as being a disobedient troublemaker, but every time she talks she's using fifteen-lettered words and immediately identifying the emotions of the characters around her. This isn't a child I'm reading about, it's something really bad that I can't read anymore.
I've read through rapes, tortures, awkward speeches, and love scenes, but Hawthorne having no idea what a child is and how they act is really what messed with me the most in all of fiction.
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************. I looked this up to remember how old she is in the books and Cliffnotes had this to say.
Yeah that's basically The Scarlet Letter in one paragraph.
Seems to me that if she's not meant to be a character then she shouldn't be presented as one in the novel.TheYellowCellPhone said:
Rape scenes. They don?t force me to leave the room (I?ve never done that with a film), but it does tend to be one of the things I think about for the next couple of days.
Torture-porn scenes. After watching Saw III out of morbid curiosity, I definitively decided that?d be the last Saw film I?ve ever watch. I still can?t believe they managed to make at least three more films of that shit. Aside from the gore, the plot is nonsensical.
That scene in Black Swan where Portman peels the skin off her finger, and you think it?s going to stop, but it just. Fucking. CONTINUES.
Rom-com tropes. It?s probably why I don?t watch rom-coms.
Torture-porn scenes. After watching Saw III out of morbid curiosity, I definitively decided that?d be the last Saw film I?ve ever watch. I still can?t believe they managed to make at least three more films of that shit. Aside from the gore, the plot is nonsensical.
That scene in Black Swan where Portman peels the skin off her finger, and you think it?s going to stop, but it just. Fucking. CONTINUES.
Rom-com tropes. It?s probably why I don?t watch rom-coms.