Things that are illegal, that you don't have problem with
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Drugs regulations, weapon regulations, prostitution, public nudity, public intoxication, speeding, reckless driving, lying under oath..
Piracy, under age anything (thats what parents are for), inhumane research restrictions, cannibalism.
Making it illegal to play catch on the beach, the death penalty, spitting in public, having sex in public, fighting for money, assaulting douchebags.
Piracy, under age anything (thats what parents are for), inhumane research restrictions, cannibalism.
Making it illegal to play catch on the beach, the death penalty, spitting in public, having sex in public, fighting for money, assaulting douchebags.
Stealing for survival, prostitution (it never made sense to me why porn stars could be paid for having sex but prostitutes cannot), weed, downloading music.
Plotting to rule the world, which I am certainly not doing and definitely do not have a room dedicated to it.
Plotting to rule the world, which I am certainly not doing and definitely do not have a room dedicated to it.
Please tell me what they were thinking when they invented this one.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Probably "hurr hurr, we can make any law we want, just watch!"
That's an example of a private matter not even requiring government intervention. Besides, isn't that where that would end up anyway? There's nothing making them pay you.ravensheart18 said:
This, and going 1 mile over the speed limit.Dags90 said:
*EDIT* Oh yeah, and sharing music, which is technically illegal I believe.
When it comes to law suits I will say that I think your missing the point. Criminal charges, even if you succeed do very little to repair the damages to the victim. If your say badly injured as a result of someone's negligence, the guy going to jail winds up doing you no good.Blindswordmaster said:
In the context of other law suits, like where someone sues a company for millions, understand that with bureaucracy being what it is, the company is pretty much just going to kick some poor sacrificial lamb to the curb who might not have anything to do with what happened to you, and continue business as usual. One of the problems with bureaucracies and corperations is that pinning anyone down to be responsible for anything is difficult, and you can't arrest hundreds or thousands of people.
At any rate, when it comes to law suits part of the purpose is to punish, this is what punitive damages are all about. The bigger the defendant, the more money it takes for it to be an effective punishmemnt. If you are up against say Mcdonalds or Sony, a "fair" settlement simply for damages doesn't discourage them from their practices. That's just petty cash for them. Heck, as it is one of the big things about the corperate mentality is that they will only do the right thing if it costs them less money than dealing with the damages they cause would. If it costs 48 million to recall a product, but only 24 million to deal with wrongful death claims, they'll let people die on their product. In a practical sense, when someone sues company for say 200 million dollars over something seemingly petty, the entire point is that 200 million is a blow they can't ignore.
It's also noteworthy that one of the other reasons for law suits is that the standards in a civil case, are lower than in a criminal case. In a criminal case you have to prove someone guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In a civil case it goes to a preponderance of evidence, a lot of people don't get this.
In many cases winning a case beyond a reasonable doubt is not possible against someone who wronged you, even if they should go to jail. However a lower standard of proof in a civil case means that you can bring civil charges and have a chance of winning under those rules and obtaining satisfaction that way.
In a number of cases the case will be heard both criminally and civilly. A criminal case to have someone charged and sent to jail, and a civil case to collect damages, recoup losses, or otherwise take further punitive damage. Some CEO that gets charged and does six months in a country club is going to be laughing when he goes back to his fortune after whatever he did. On the other hand if you send him to jail, and then bankrupt his company well... that's more adequete punishment.
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As far as things that are illegal that I don't mind, truthfully I support the laws against most of the things mentioned here.
I guess if I had to pick something, I'd have to say self defense. Right now defending yourself in any meaningful fashion is illegal in most places. There are laws in a lot of states specifying that both people in a confrontation are under an obligation to flee, that means that if there is say a bar fight, both guys are liable to be charged. You can't even stand your own ground in your own home, and defend your property or possessions. Some dude can walk in, grab your valuables, and walk out, and you either let the police handle it, or your criminally liable.
I'm one of those guys who believes "an armed society is a polite society". Left up to me I'd greatly loosen self defense laws, remove things like firearms permits, and have everyone walking around with a big iron on their hip. To be honest, I think it would resolve a lot of problems before hey even occured. Even if your a really fast draw, and a good shot, your going to be careful about slotting too many people off because if you push too far and have an off day, your in the ground. As a result everyone is going to be more motivated to be fair and courteous.
