lostclause said:
Ultrajoe said:
That's the kind of logic Michael Bay used to make transformer,s Heretic! And what do we get? No god damn transformers, and not even the basest level of mandatory fan service, abused legends and undercooked awesome-sauce. No, my movie Will have space marines, it Will have an appropriate level of fan service and it most certainly Will stick to the cannon like a Inquisitor to his creed. It will be story first, character oriented and competent in terms of narrative, and made in a noir, almost comic-book style of cinema, with expansive backgrounds and stylized sets designed to convey a more... intense atmosphere. We aren't going for realism here, a realistic war scenario would be a pile of cheesy bullshit, but I think if you could paint a... semi-reality, knowing that you are dealing with a universe designed to be.. over the top, you might stand a chance.
300 meets Starship Troopers meets Sin City
And. It. Will. Be. Glorious.
I could almost hear the trumpet playing in the background as I read that.
My main problem with space marines is they're a bit played out. One you get past the whole genetically engineered fanatics there's not much left to explore save the different castes (I know that's not the right word but it can't remember what is) and that would be hard to bring across in the movie.
Also I wouldn't use tyranids because that would turn the whole movie into a alien ripoff.
I never meant to use Nids, I was more referring to their style of satire and commentary.
Space Marines
can be developed characters, if used properly. The script will need to be something incredible, encapsulating the minds of non-humans trapped in a cycle of war and death, summing up a warped psychology in the face of a warped galaxy. The gold would be in creating the Horus Heresy trilogy, cutting away much dead flesh to get to the bones of that narrative, being careful not to cram too much into each film and letting the characters carry the awesome. Tell it from the point of view of humans if you must, interspersed with space marines and use the juxtaposition to drive the themes of the film (and it
must have themes, it must have a
point) and the mounting tension.
Begin with a joyous and over-the-top view of war, of men running happily into battle like it was 300 all over again, and then drag it downward, have battle become more dreary, watch marines become sullen wrecks or psychotic berserkers as the constant war takes its toll. Show them to be human, deep down, in their minds, even though they are living weapons. Strip the romance from the combat over the course of the film, watching Horus decline as you do, cut the awesome and let reality seep in as men from the squad disappear one by one, for some reason I get the urge to abuse a montage (perhaps at the start of the film? To set the scene?). Take the illusion and mystery and fun of this wide and wild universe and over the course of a film you drag it down into the mud and show it for the hell it is, hold the bare marines up the audience and say 'Here is your superman, a weapon, brought low by all you smile at'. Strip illusions, make 40K
darker. Don't make it cool, don't make it awesome, not by the end.
Challenge the perceptions of what constitutes humanity, make a film about what defines us as people. Make a film about flaws and weakness, shown against the backdrop of a supposedly perfect man, watch him come apart.
And then add Bolters.
