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Stormz

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Jezzeh said:
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Not only is it a dumb idea, but isn't it illegal to drop out until you're 18?
I'm only eighteen and i'm in my second year of uni, so how does what you said make ANY sense?
I'll be 18 in grade 12. Don't know how it works wherever you live.
...Some people (like myself) are in advanced classes/bumped up grades/graduating early?

I'm 21 and am currently in my fifth year at the University of Phoenix.
If he's thinking of dropping out at 15, I doubt he's in any advanced classes.
 

Duke Machine

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And here I was just earlier today thinking about how much I miss highschool...looking back on it I very much appreciated being a name instead of a number
 

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A lot of people with a College education already have a hard time finding good steady jobs. If THEY'RE having a problem finding a job, imagine someone who doesn't even have a High School Degree.

Shit, even if your grades are abysmal it's better than nothing.

For your own future, don't fucking quit, you will regret it in the long run.
 

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Oh man you totally don't want to drop out.

I finished highschool and I can't find a job.

My friend has a masters in managing or accounting something like that, he had to have connections to work in a supermarket. Totally not worth it. If you don't have a diploma then you can't get anything, because sooner or later small jobs will be able to be done with machines. Also the younger generation is far more advanced, my niece is in second grade and she can already search the internet, download, and write reports on the computer. Imagine when she goes into the work force.
 

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Don't drop out, at least finish high school before you decide what you are going to do with your life.

I've dropped out of college once, I found out it was a stupid I idea and went back the next semester, graduated with a 2 year degree, transfered, and I am about to graduate this semester with a 4 year degree. Even with my 2 year degree it was near impossible to get a job, so how do you think you are going to get a job to live on without a high school degree?

Stormz said:
Not only is it a dumb idea, but isn't it illegal to drop out until you're 18?
I don't know where the OP lives, but I know here in Indiana, if you are at least 16 and have parent's consent, you can drop out. You would be surprised by how many parents will allow their kids to drop out.

18 doesn't make any sense, unless the kid kept repeating grade levels. Because I was 18 when I was a Senior in high school and by that time, a person is so close they might as well tough it out until graduation. I know many people that were 17 when they graduated high school. I guess 18 would be a good new bar to set it at, because by that time the kid would already be close to or already graduated. If not, a kid that old and not near graduating, might as well give up if they can't hand the easy ride that is high school.
 

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If you are going to drop out make sure you know what your doing, as in a good job or an aprentiship or somthing similar, figure out what youre going to do BEFORE you drop out otherwise its not a very good situation
 

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Unless you really, really know what you want to do after you drop out and the passion and dedication to pursue it, and all school is doing is wasting your time and preventing you from pursuing that goal, and possibly at least a way to make some money, I suggest staying in school.

I understand where you are coming from, I really hate school as well, to the point where I really do think it wastes my time. I have just never functioned well in a school environment, I'm pretty sure most people don't, they generally aren't places that cater to a wide variety of learning types, personalities, ect. Some just push themselves through it out of fear of not having a good future, or because they want to live up to their parent's expectations, or their expectations. Some people fool themselves into thinking that school is the epitome of achievement, that if you don't perform well in school, or don't like it, you aren't intelligent, or you can't be successful. Some people are actually comfortable with school.

Some people, like yourself, just can't put themselves through it and give up, because school really does suck at what it is apparently set out to do: Teach and nurture talents. When I was young and in elementary school, I was ostracized for being eccentric and for straying away from the inflexible structure of school. I didn't learn the way I apparently supposed to, I didn't want to do assignments the way I was apparently supposed to, I instead wanted to try my own ideas and approaches. But curiosity and creativity, to them, just got in the way of plowing through the set curriculum as efficiently as possible.

The problem is that school, in the way that it's designed, just doesn't work for everybody, but our society puts so much importance on it to the point where it's needed merely for survival and practicality.

If I wasn't in school, I would have more time to learn about and pursue what I want to do in life. But alas, I lack both the dedication, bravery, and probably the talent to do that so I can overcome the many obstacles society throws at people without a formal education. So here I am in school. It's not completely terrible though, I'm going through my last year. After I graduate I'll take some time to clear my head and really figure out what I want to do.
 

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cimil said:
Yeah, so I'm basicaly done with school. Still not sure 'bout this, and not doing anything drastic yet. Probably gonna try to tough it out, but I'm really unsure. I know most of the downsides, but I really want to hear some ideas/thoughts on this from some one else.

I'm only 15 (16 in Feb), so I may have to wait until I'm old enough to secure some kind of job...


So, opinions?
If you're 15 then you're not even in high school yet (I may be wrong, I'm in Canada)

Grades 10, 11, and 12 are the grades that really matter since failing is a real possibility. You can't really "fail" middle school here in Canada but high school is hard as hell.

When you reach high school you have more options to choose from (I assume you get to choose fun stuff like construction and art but you're forced to take the core classes). In high school you may not even want to do science so you don't have to, though its more complicated than that.

tl;dr, wait until you're in the final years of school and make the decision then.
 

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I thought about dropping out when I was a Junior, then I realized that means I had just effectively wasted the last 10 years of my life, and with two left it made sense to finish it out. Plus it's generally hard to find a half-way decent job, for the most part you'll be relegated to washing dishes and flipping burgers. So unless you've got an awesome set of marketable skills and you've got employers chomping at the bit, I'd tough out the rest of high-school at least.
 

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cimil said:
AnOriginalConcept said:
Why do you want to drop out? Perhaps the problem can be addressed.

I agree with the other posters.
I just totaly lack drive. I truely don't/can't give a shit. I'll sit there, knowing that my grade is plumeting and it doesn't bother me. All day I just sit there and phaze out, or serf around on my phone.
That sounds EXACTLY like me. But trust me, you don't want to drop out of high school. Even getting an F in every subject is worth more to an employer's eyes than a drop out. It's hard to get to work at McDonald's with bad grades, imagine how hard it would be to get a job you can live off of. So yeah, stick it out through high school, then do what you want.

Oh, and a little off topic; don't let anyone push you into college if you don't think you're ready for it. College is great and you'll probably need it at some point, but wasting money on it when you know you won't do well is a bad idea. I know this from experience.
 

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MystryMeet said:
Oh man you totally don't want to drop out.

I finished highschool and I can't find a job.

My friend has a masters in managing or accounting something like that, he had to have connections to work in a supermarket. Totally not worth it. If you don't have a diploma then you can't get anything, because sooner or later small jobs will be able to be done with machines. Also the younger generation is far more advanced, my niece is in second grade and she can already search the internet, download, and write reports on the computer. Imagine when she goes into the work force.
I would also tell the OP that it is easier when you get to college.

I'm a senior about to get my B.S. in English, and this final semester, I only have 4 classes. And in six weeks I have only had one small project, 3 papers, and four poems to write. That is about 17 pages of work. Oh, and my schedule gives me a four day weekend.
 

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You dont REALLY need the high school education. Just drop out, get your GED, go to college. Or get a job. Alot of colleges actually accept GED's. Its nice to have high school, but the resumes ask for high school or equivalent. Most of the bosses dont even check the stuff. My dad never finished, makes 15 an hour. Might not be a whole lot, but its enough to keep a family of seven afloat. Its your life man, live it the way you want to.
 

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Welcome to the world new Blue Collar Worker! Someday you might reach the lofty career heights of the guy who presses sheet metal or even a games tester. Sadly you need an education for both of those jobs, so perhaps you could be the creepy guy handing out towels in fancy resturants' toilets, or even be a spooge mopper @ the local "adult arcade". The possibilities are limitless until your folks kick your ass out. Good luck! :)
 

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Do what you can to finish. Unless there's absolutely no way you can make it through, do not drop out. I felt pretty much the same around that age, but I stuck through it. Just find something to keep you sane.
 

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High school isn't fun but in the long run you really do need it. A GED isn't the same as a high school diploma, and quitting is not a good attitude to go forward with. You can still get a decent job, but realistically if you want a good job, you need that high school diploma.

And it does get better. I had fun during my high school time, and i'm glad I made it through.
 

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Cain_Zeros said:
At the very least, finish high school. Unless you want to be working at McDonalds or Walmart or something like that for the rest of your life. Most trades even require at least a high school education to start you apprenticeship, so...
I would say he had better have connections. Because I have a 2 year degree, a few months away from a 4 year degree, and I couldn't even get hired at Wal-Mart, and I applied at 4 of them. It is better to wait out this economy in school, living on government loan money. Heck, I'll soon be getting over 3000 dollars of money just to live off of for this last semester, and I only need 70 dollars a month for food.

I say take all the money you can from the stupid government, get a degree and a good job and spend the next 30-40 years paying back to them slowly, while you use the extra to have a life.
 

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Dropping out works fine if your smart enough to finish the GED, which..a 5th grader could do that test. But you can't really do it until your 18, so you have to go through your first 3 years anyways. And even if you didn't then you would just have to study for the test on your own. As for the alternative of not finishing school or taking the GED..no.
 

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cimil said:
AnOriginalConcept said:
Why do you want to drop out? Perhaps the problem can be addressed.

I agree with the other posters.
I just totaly lack drive. I truely don't/can't give a shit. I'll sit there, knowing that my grade is plumeting and it doesn't bother me. All day I just sit there and phaze out, or serf around on my phone.

Dropping out of school would be the biggest mistake you've ever made. Everyone in the world would judge you for not making it through high-school and they'd probably be right to. Any problems you might have now will be magnified once you leave. Nobody will ever hire a guy who dropped out of highschool because he was TOO lazy to apply himself to graduate. If I were in your position (and I was at one point, minus cell phones) I would get rid of my cell phone so that I could concentrate on whatever is being taught. If your schooling doesn't challenge you, just buck up for the next 3 years and go to a post secondary college/university/trade school to get yourself an interesting job that you will love to do for the rest of your life. In the event that you drop out you'll likely be a bitter person that people will probably avoid and will hate your job which will probably scrubbing out toilets or something that doesn't require a brain.

I didn't have drive when I was younger, and I had terrible marks in high school. I found work at an internet realty company for 3 years before I went back to university. I'm now a year and a half away from graduating and happier than I've ever been in my life.

Word up.